Should The US Use It’s Capabilities To Destroy Iran’s Nuclear Capability?

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Hopefully the U.S. doesn't retaliate and Iran doesn't launch more attacks on U.S. bases. Let's cross our fingers.

It appears that Trump is getting his information from the Israelis rather than from his own intelligence sources. That doesn’t exactly give me hope that the cooler heads will prevail.

But even if this is a one off on the part of the Iranians I would bet that the Iranian regime will continue to harass and destroy our forces in the region for many years to come.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Texas Contrarian

Since they gave Qatar prior warning before the launches, it appears likely that the Iranians had no intention of actually striking the US base, since the heads-up made a successful interception so much more likely.

But this gave the mullahs a chance to get some dramatic fireworks displays on TV ... so they could say, in essence: "Look! We're striking the Great Satan!"

This looks to be playing out like the aftermath of the assassination of Qasem Soleimani in 2020.

From today's Financial Times,

“CONGRATULATIONS WORLD, IT’S TIME FOR PEACE!” Trump wrote, adding that the Iranians had “gotten it all out of their ‘system,’ and there will, hopefully, be no further HATE”.

He said: “I want to thank Iran for giving us early notice, which made it possible for no lives to be lost, and nobody to be injured. Perhaps Iran can now proceed to Peace and Harmony in the Region, and I will enthusiastically encourage Israel to do the same.”

https://www.ft.com/content/67207725-...d-0479adb0da06

[Jacky S]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

It appears that Trump is getting his information from the Israelis rather than from his own intelligence sources. That doesn’t exactly give me hope that the cooler heads will prevail.

But even if this is a one off on the part of the Iranians I would bet that the Iranian regime will continue to harass and destroy our forces in the region for many years to come.

The gals on The View could not have said it better.

[royamcr]

Iranians are aiming for Trump's new plane in Qatar.

[Michael8219]

Agreed 100% that we don’t want escalation and retaliation as well as countries choosing sides.

The consequences result from our actions, but now is the time for working the phones and tamping down the brush fires before they get out of hand.

The inevitable “hold my beer/vodka /sagi/baijiu, watch this” can screw us all.

[farmstud60]

So Iran said they were going to attack the base on Qatar, so the attack was all for show trying to keep in power.


I think if there is enough support from outside sources, I think the Iranian people would actually over through their current government as they have been horrible for the most Iranians.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by Jacky S

The gals on The View could not have said it better.

Gee Jacky, Glad to see that you watch The View too. If you have something to say about the topic at hand then you should discuss that.

It’s my contention that our air strikes in support of the Israeli mission will have long term consequences for the region. Not just for Iran or Israel but for all of the countries who benefit from peace as the status quo.

If anyone here thinks that these strikes will be one and done are, in my opinion, mistaken. Every hardliner in the region is going to use this as an excuse to cause trouble.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Gee Jacky, Glad to see that you watch The View too. If you have something to say about the topic at hand then you should discuss that.

It’s my contention that our air strikes in support of the Israeli mission will have long term consequences for the region. Not just for Iran or Israel but for all of the countries who benefit from peace as the status quo.

If anyone here thinks that these strikes will be one and done are, in my opinion, mistaken. Every hardliner in the region is going to use this as an excuse to cause trouble.

it will have long term consequences. it's called peace.


what hardliners outside of Iran are going to take the US action as a call to arms? no one because most of the region doesn't want Iran to have a nuclear weapon.

[Jacky S]

I agree they will have long term consequences. The most important one being Iran will not be able to threaten other Countries with an Atomic Bomb.

Pretty good.

[Yssup Rider]

Jackie, you don't need nukes to wage war. They've been used ONCE. Meanwhile, Iran and its proxies have been waging war against us for decades. Without nukes.

It appears Israel is out to destroy all perceived threats in the region. And those threats mostly originate in Iran. After fucking up Hamas and Hezbollah, why would they want to pull out before dropping their geopolitical creampie?

(Sorry guys, sometimes gotta remind ourselves that what we all have in common - allegedly - is dat pussy)

I don't think they're done making a mess over there. Not by a long shot.

[1blackman1]

Anyone that believes there’s a coming peace in the Middle East because of any recent actions either 1) hasn’t been paying attention or 2) is very naive. I was there in December 1990. That’s 34 years ago. The attitude of those people hasn’t changed in any real way. When countries don’t bend to the political whims of the public and have to worry about elections, they tend to play a very long game. Israel has degraded Iran for now, but that’ll just make the terroristic elements more likely to take actions.

The real question is whether Iran will be able to get North Korea, Pakistan or Russia to provide them some support in advancing their nuclear dreams. If they were, in fact, weeks away from having the fully enriched uranium, and we’ve no clue where that material is, it could be getting worked up elsewhere right now.

[1blackman1]

Anyone that believes there’s a coming peace in the Middle East because of any recent actions either 1) hasn’t been paying attention or 2) is very naive. I was there in December 1990. That’s 34 years ago. The attitude of those people hasn’t changed in any real way. When countries don’t bend to the political whims of the public and have to worry about elections, they tend to play a very long game. Israel has degraded Iran for now, but that’ll just make the terroristic elements more likely to take actions.

The real question is whether Iran will be able to get North Korea, Pakistan or Russia to provide them some support in advancing their nuclear dreams. If they were, in fact, weeks away from having the fully enriched uranium, and we’ve no clue where that material is, it could be getting worked up elsewhere right now.

[VitaMan]

What do any of the many recent posts have to do with the topic ?

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by farmstud60

adav8s28,


You just keep repeating the BS lies of Democrats and world leaders that think an agreement is all they need when in reality all it did was buy Iran more time to continue their efforts.


Trump will end the Iran Nuclear threat once and for all and quit listening to those that have gotten it wrong for 30 years.

So you don't believe in the adage you attract more bees with honey than vinegar?

The non-aggressive approach of Obama versus what donny just did definitely had different results. At least with Obama there would be observers onsite with electronic oversight seeing what is happening. They'd have to ramp up a whole separate nuclear industry to try and hide any illicit dealings. So far, that has not been shown to have happened while we had people there.

So don't go shooting down the lefty source that was given since what is stated there is dead on with the facts.

Originally Posted by texassapper

No.

The same reasons being used to convince Americans to go after Iran were the same ones used to go after Iraq.

You'd think we would know better by now.

First I heard that Iran was running a bioweapons program
But it has been roundly stated that Iraq wasn't the place we should have been concerned with. Saddam was a local thorn.

Originally Posted by texassapper

We have this representative body called Congress that is supposed to represent the will of the people. If Congress offers up a Declaration of War to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon which may very likely be used to kill millions of Americans and it passes...well that how you deal with the nukes. If it doesn't pass then the will of the American people is that we take that risk.

Trump is not a fucking Emperor. We have citizen soldiers not Roman legions. We have a Republic and a method to make war if necessary.

We are in these situations in the first place because Congress has failed to do its job for decades

It would scare me if Congress would do that. The only other time i'd think that this country would use a nuke was in Korea. Old Mac wanted to plow the China border with radioactive waste from bombing. The one thing I agree with him if he did that is that it wouldn't have been a half ass war (can't bomb half a bridge.) There would be a clear cut victor/loser at the time. And I bet Korea would be a whole different country today.