Interesting article on pulling fossil fuel subsidies

[oeb11]

Finger paints! WD.

One color - marxist RED!

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Tiny

That's exactly what popped into my mind when bf0082 was lecturing about how there's no point in building a pipeline because the price of oil is going to fall through the floor




If he'd left things up to the market we would have been a lot better off.

In the free market this pipeline would not have been built ... it was being subsidized as is...or was.

https://www.vox.com/22306919/biden-k...climate-change


ConocoPhillips, Shell, Statoil from Norway, [and] the Koch Brothers have sold their stakes in the tar sands and moved on, which means there’s less need for these pipelines than previously expected,” Biggs added.

TC Energy had a difficult time attracting private investors to Keystone XL — it was only capable of putting shovels to the ground in the project with the help of a subsidy from Alberta Premier Jason Kenney, who approved more than $1 billion in public funds in the spring of 2020 to help the project.

[winn dixie]

Time for another graph

[oeb11]

Or, Pencil and a 'Big Chief" tablet!


RED pencil, of course.

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by oeb11

Finger paints! WD.

One color - marxist RED!

Hope theyre water soluble

[WTF]

Originally Posted by oeb11

Finger paints! WD.

One color - marxist RED!

You're going to finger paint wd?

Sounds a tad...I'll be nice.
Whatever floats y'alls boats.

Originally Posted by oeb11

Or, Pencil and a 'Big Chief" tablet!


RED pencil, of course.

Originally Posted by winn dixie

Hope theyre water soluble

Good Lord....just what area of you is he finger painting?


You two should get a room. You're not really on topic and just seem to be flirting.

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by WTF

You're going to finger paint wd?

Sounds a tad...I'll be nice.
Whatever floats y'alls boats.






Good Lord....just what area of you is he finger painting?


You two should get a room. You're not really on topic and just seem to be flirting.

There he goes with the homosexual imagery. Guess our posts were a bit advanced.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

There he goes with the homosexual imagery. Guess our posts were a bit advanced.

Yes ...your finger painting commentary is so on topic.

Or is it the DPST reference?

On every single post

[WTF]

Originally Posted by lustylad

The article isn't about any "subsidies"....



....Wtf is constantly starting threads about articles he doesn't understand. .

Really? I'm gonna keep bitch slapping you with the facts from the article. Hopefully you will also learn wtf a regressive tax is...or isn't.

But while it may be tempting to associate fossil fuel subsidy reform with protest, government instability and eventual backtracking on the new policy, it is important to acknowledge this is not the usual outcome. 50 counties across the globe successfully reformed at least part of their fossil fuel subsidies between 2015 and 2018; this shows that, on the whole, governments are learning how to design and implement reform policies that stick.

[oeb11]

C'mon - 'w'

u belong not on a heterosexual forum - but posting in teh gay counterculture forums.

coming out is not so painful
Just ask your fascist DPST leaders - and
Fiden selects transgender doctor Rachel Levine as assistant health secretary

Rachel has teh 'cure' for straight caucasian males in her very own syringes and needles!

[WTF]

Originally Posted by oeb11

C'mon - 'w'

u belong not on a heterosexual forum - MG]

You and wd are posting about finger painting on a thread about subsidies.

lustylad at least attempts to try and stay on subject even if he posts a bunch of distortions about subsidies....he is at least on point.

You two on the other hand are soiling the thread with nonsense.

[I Love Freedom]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

I'm not clicking a link WTF made a poor case for. Every article I've seen overinflates the "fossil fuel subsidies." The oil, gas and chemical industries pays billions in taxes from both the corporation, Sales and Use, payroll and a whole host of other taxes.

If those companies get some back, no big deal.

The stupid Progressives will find a way to tax sunlight.

I think they pay more in taxes than any other industry.

[I Love Freedom]

Originally Posted by WTF

Really? I'm gonna keep bitch slapping you with the facts from the article. Hopefully you will also learn wtf a regressive tax is...or isn't.

But while it may be tempting to associate fossil fuel subsidy reform with protest, government instability and eventual backtracking on the new policy, it is important to acknowledge this is not the usual outcome. 50 counties across the globe successfully reformed at least part of their fossil fuel subsidies between 2015 and 2018; this shows that, on the whole, governments are learning how to design and implement reform policies that stick.

The entire budget of some countries is supported by fossil fuels so they pay far more into the tax than they get

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by WTF

In the free market this pipeline would not have been built ... it was being subsidized as is...or was.

https://www.vox.com/22306919/biden-k...climate-change


ConocoPhillips, Shell, Statoil from Norway, [and] the Koch Brothers have sold their stakes in the tar sands and moved on, which means there’s less need for these pipelines than previously expected,” Biggs added.

TC Energy had a difficult time attracting private investors to Keystone XL — it was only capable of putting shovels to the ground in the project with the help of a subsidy from Alberta Premier Jason Kenney, who approved more than $1 billion in public funds in the spring of 2020 to help the project.

If the residents of Alberta want to drop some dough so that our refiners can process Canadian crude, instead of having it shipped to China or or Toronto or wherever, or just shipped by rail and truck, more power to them. From memory I think a large part of the subsidy may have been a loan guarantee. In any event I'm all for another country paying subsidies that help U.S. companies and U.S. workers. Why look a gift horse in the mouth?

If the U.S. government were subsidizing the pipeline, I'd have a very different view.

[WTF]

[QUOTE=Tiny;1062383061

If the U.S. government were subsidizing the pipeline, I'd have a very different view.[/QUOTE]

You mean like in the form of imminent domain?

And this thread is about oil subsidies!

Have you read about how much more corrosive this oil processing is and how many leaks the orginal pipeline has had?

But at the end of the day you and I are in general agreement that economics drive projects.

This project no longer made economic sense.

It definitely made no political sense.