In a Serious Relationship With an ASP? Guys, Could You Handle It?

[Shayla]

Morality has nothing to do with it!

Ultimately, prostitution is morally wrong. Even the most liberal people would agree with that. However the prostitutes themselves and the johns are not necessarily bad people or morally corrupt. Every law is an attempt to appoint morality because morality is a fundamental of right and wrong.

[Guest102212]

My first chime on the topic.
From first hand experience. It is harder than anyone would expect to date a provider or former provider.

Jealousy is a huge issue especially when the lady asks the guy to not hobby anymore. Jealousy could easily kill a good thing.

If you can get past the jealousy and concern of the sneaking out, then it can work.

But, oddly, the frequency of sex with a former provider is not what typically what one would hope. Hmmm.

[Still Looking]

Originally Posted by MrGiz

I thought I made it clear that I have no problem with your opinions.... no pounding of forehead necessary! You sound a little excited... can you not live by your own doctrine? Do you not enjoy being called a bigot?

I checked... the piss you off button is NOT on and I'm not excited at all. I really hoped the disclaimer was self explanatory. My original post most certainly was not directed at you or one of your posts. So I'm confused as to why you are addressing me personally rather than just sharing your views as I did? Am I getting this right... your calling me a bigot? Would I enjoy being called a bigot? I don't think so. I've never had anyone who knew me do that before.

Bigot: A person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, especially on religion, politics, or race.

Maybe I'm off base here, but are you calling me a bigot because I have said something you do not agree with?


SL Disclaimer: My piss you off button is in the off mode. I am voicing my personal opinion and am not speaking for any one but myself nor am I telling anyone what they should do!

[Laz]

Originally Posted by Shayla

Ultimately, prostitution is morally wrong. Even the most liberal people would agree with that. However the prostitutes themselves and the johns are not necessarily bad people or morally corrupt. Every law is an attempt to appoint morality because morality is a fundamental of right and wrong.

I hate to disagree with someone so beautiful but prostitution is not always morally wrong. As a recently divorced person that never hobbied while married the time a lady spends with me can provide at minimum pleasure that is not available through other sources. At best it can provide me with a friend also that can help make life more enjoyable. I cannot see the immorality in that.

To me what can make it morally questionable is if the provider is viewed with disdain and is simply considered a hole to be used and ignored, or a provider that looks at her customer as nothing more than an ATM that she is to try to find a way to empty. I know that this is a business not a love affair but the people involved should be treated with respect in both directions.

People cheating on their wives is another morally challenging issue. I define cheating as when the wife does not know. I do not have a good answer for this other than the responsibilty lies with the person doing the cheating. That does not completely clear the provider but as long as she is not persuing and enticing the cheater it is his problem.

[PERVERTed]

I think I could hypothetically share a life with an ASP, possibly but probably not marry, and definitely NOT have children with one. This person could be an ongoing provider or be retired but monogamy would be a deal breaker. That goes both ways, if she wants to fuck some guy or girl she'd be free to, P4P or not. I think the only rule would have to be complete honesty and openness about and towards everything.

Completely hypothetical.

[Naomi4u]

Originally Posted by PERVERTed84

I think I could hypothetically share a life with an ASP, possibly but probably not marry, and definitely NOT have children with one. This person could be an ongoing provider or be retired but monogamy would be a deal breaker. That goes both ways, if she wants to fuck some guy or girl she'd be free to, P4P or not. I think the only rule would have to be complete honesty and openness about and towards everything.

Completely hypothetical.

In other words.......just for the free pussy right?

[shorty]

Originally Posted by Naomi4u

In other words.......just for the free pussy right?

Someone say free pussy! When's our relationship begin?

[Pink Floyd]

Originally Posted by London Rayne

No, it has nothing to do with any of that. It's something I feel that just won't go away no matter how many times I hear "It's ok." It's a decision I made completely free from my contradicting emotions. I don't think it's wrong...I know it's wrong, for me that is. Yet I still partake..hmm.

OMG Still Looking!! I got you biaatches quoting Corinthians!! I need a drink!

It is very difficult to undo years and years of programming, and most people will never even attempt to do so. We are former monkies, and except for some marvelous mutations we would be picking termites from a tree stump right now. Monogomy is not natures way for homosapiens, it is an unatural state, and there arises all the conflict. I am not going to be one of those who says it is OK, what I say is that it is a logical approach to handling an illogical society. I don't have to say it is OK because nature has already given its OK. Man evolved to spread his seed far and wide, society comes along and tries to undo evolution, and says man must have one mate for life. Society is in contradiction to evolution and evolution has been around a hell of a lot longer that society. Have a great visit in Florida, I used to live there.

When you get right down to it the harem setup is probably the most natural of all. Of course there would be many fewer humans on earth, but we would probably be more evolved, because the strongest would have survived. It is very interesting to think about this.

[Shayla]

Originally Posted by Laz

I hate to disagree with someone so beautiful but prostitution is not always morally wrong. As a recently divorced person that never hobbied while married the time a lady spends with me can provide at minimum pleasure that is not available through other sources. At best it can provide me with a friend also that can help make life more enjoyable. I cannot see the immorality in that.

To me what can make it morally questionable is if the provider is viewed with disdain and is simply considered a hole to be used and ignored, or a provider that looks at her customer as nothing more than an ATM that she is to try to find a way to empty. I know that this is a business not a love affair but the people involved should be treated with respect in both directions.

People cheating on their wives is another morally challenging issue. I define cheating as when the wife does not know. I do not have a good answer for this other than the responsibilty lies with the person doing the cheating. That does not completely clear the provider but as long as she is not persuing and enticing the cheater it is his problem.

It is morally wrong no matter which direction you look at it. Just because it makes you feel better or allows you to have a sense of 'fulfilment' doesn't make it right. Like I said, THE PEOPLE that partake in this hobby are not bad people (most of the time), but the act itself is. This is my opinion. Maybe I'm too much of a conservative thinker.

[Laz]

Originally Posted by Shayla

This is my opinion. Maybe I'm too much of a conservative thinker.

A lot of people share your opinion.

[Pink Floyd]

Originally Posted by Shayla

It is morally wrong no matter which direction you look at it. Just because it makes you feel better or allows you to have a sense of 'fulfilment' doesn't make it right. Like I said, THE PEOPLE that partake in this hobby are not bad people (most of the time), but the act itself is. This is my opinion. Maybe I'm too much of a conservative thinker.

Nature does not consider it wrong, man does. Man is not infallible. Is monogamy right just because man says it is, even though it goes against evolution. Is nudity morally wrong? I have seen the Pope march into poverty stricken countries and tell them not to practice birth control, even when they could not feed the children they had. Was that morally right? It was in his eyes, but in mine it was supremely immoral.

Before I get in trouble let me relate this to the OP and say that man was meant to have multiple mates, but women evolved in a harem state. Therefore a male would have to be indifferent to the female to endorse her mating other males.

[PERVERTed]

Originally Posted by Naomi4u

In other words.......just for the free pussy right?

lol...but isn't that why most guys get involved in relationships anyway?

but seriously in this hypothetical scenario I would have to share a lot in common with this person, otherwise i'd rather just keep it P4P. Its not JUST about the pussy, but....I'm not even gonna lie, a PSE is a PSE and to have free and open access to that can't be bad!

I think though that if I were a family oriented person I would never even consider getting into that sort of relationship.

[omp42]

Wow....just read all 8 pages.......all I can say is WHEW!!!!! Glad I am an old single fucker with too much money and time on my hands. Dont know what I'll do when I retire.

[Still Looking]

Originally Posted by Shayla

It is morally wrong no matter which direction you look at it. Just because it makes you feel better or allows you to have a sense of 'fulfilment' doesn't make it right. Like I said, THE PEOPLE that partake in this hobby are not bad people (most of the time), but the act itself is. This is my opinion. Maybe I'm too much of a conservative thinker.

I tried that... it made me a "Bigot" LOL

[MrGiz]

No , no , no.... The only reason you were called a BIGOT is because you choose to call others you don't agree with , PIMPS.
Try just a little harder to keep up!!