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Old 08-21-2011, 06:05 AM   #106
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If you look back ladysara put a bullshit alert on a hobbyist (providers also commented in support that the "alert" was bullshit.

Solemate, I don't mind calling out bullshit. If you don't like it swallow the bullshit and revel in it or you can put me on ignore....

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Old 08-21-2011, 03:29 PM   #107
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For those of you that think that $60, $100, or whatever arbitrary amount is a great wage, why aren't you out sucking dick or taking one up the ass for $200, $400 or $1000 an hour?
Not really a fair comparison, since sucking dick for most guys would be absolutely repulsive, like eating another guy's turds :P But if I was a chick? Hell yeah I would do it. I wouldn't bbbjcim or take it up the ass, but most of the ladies don't do that either, and I personally don't blame them.

From my point of view, I would go down on any chick for $100, as long as she was clean down there. Even if she was fugly.
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Old 08-21-2011, 04:23 PM   #108
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For those of you that think that $60, $100, or whatever arbitrary amount is a great wage, why aren't you out sucking dick or taking one up the ass for $200, $400 or $1000 an hour?
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Not really a fair comparison, since sucking dick for most guys would be absolutely repulsive, like eating another guy's turds :P But if I was a chick? Hell yeah I would do it. I wouldn't bbbjcim or take it up the ass, but most of the ladies don't do that either, and I personally don't blame them.

From my point of view, I would go down on any chick for $100, as long as she was clean down there. Even if she was fugly.
Is it really that unfair? I would say you're making the assumption that it's not that repulsive for women to suck strange man's dick, or my dick or your dick, etc.. I think your assumption that it's not so repulsive for a woman comes from your statement that you would go down on any chick for $100. How many women outside of pros do you think you could get to give you head for $100 if you take a random sample?

Sure, if you were a chick, you would do it. You're still speaking from a man's point of view. Most guys would agree that if they were a woman, they would bang all day and make truck loads of cash, but there's a reason why most women don't. This is also one of the big reason why generally men pay and women get paid.

Some of the providers are lesbian, would you assume her revulsion would equal a man's for sucking dick?
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Old 08-22-2011, 12:20 AM   #110
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No need to be coy, publishing your menu would get you much more business.
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Old 08-22-2011, 05:59 AM   #111
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No need to be coy, publishing your menu would get you much more business.
I've watched you "lighten up" a little lately but come on now..... Encouraging threADs?

Be careful man.... those dudes that think yer an attack pack guy are getting all confused....
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Old 08-22-2011, 04:02 PM   #112
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I will never pay more than $5000 for a car.

I won't be happy with what I get and I doubt it will last long, but I'll be satisfied to know that I didn't pay more than $5000 for it.
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Is it really that unfair? I would say you're making the assumption that it's not that repulsive for women to suck strange man's dick, or my dick or your dick, etc..
That depends. If you or I were their boyfriend/husband, it probably wouldn't be repulsive at all. In fact, they might actually enjoy it, even if they didn't swallow. As it stands, I'm sure it's not PLEASANT, but there's a BIG difference between unpleasant and repulsive. For most guys, I'd imagine the mere thought of sucking ANY dick is enough to make them want to throw up in their mouths. Is it repulsive for a lesbian? Who knows?

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Sure, if you were a chick, you would do it. You're still speaking from a man's point of view. Most guys would agree that if they were a woman, they would bang all day and make truck loads of cash, but there's a reason why most women don't. This is also one of the big reason why generally men pay and women get paid.
I would imagine that many more women would do it, if it were legal, and there wasn't the stigma associated with it.
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Like someone earlier in this thread mentioned, you guys overpay big time. Escorting is what I would call unskilled labor. There are people breaking their backs and losing fingers working in the Texas summer heat for minimum wage. To pay a young girl with no other skills, experience, job prospects as much as I do(50 to 60 bucks an hour) is generous. What else are they gonna do? Suckin and fuckin isnt rocket science or brain surgery.
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Old 08-25-2011, 02:05 AM   #115
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Like someone earlier in this thread mentioned, you guys overpay big time. Escorting is what I would call unskilled labor. There are people breaking their backs and losing fingers working in the Texas summer heat for minimum wage. To pay a young girl with no other skills, experience, job prospects as much as I do(50 to 60 bucks an hour) is generous. What else are they gonna do? Suckin and fuckin isnt rocket science or brain surgery.
Unskilled? What?

When she is holding her breath without you knowing because your breath smells like shit or you smell like BO - THAT is skill.

When she is pretending that she's enjoying YOU kissing her - That is SKILL

When you are fucking her and she tells you that she wants it doggy style so she doesn't have to look at your face but yet makes you feel as if she just LOOOVES that position- THat is skill!

When you weigh 400lbs and she has to literally LIFT your stomach up to give you an award winning BJ? That is SKILL!

When you walk through the door looking like shit and she smiles and hugs you and kisses you like you were denzel Washington/Bradley cooper/brad pitt/johnny depp - That is SKILL!

When you kiss like you're a fucking bull dog and she tells you that she dying to suck your dick - it's a lie - you just can't kiss -But you're turned on aren't ya? - THAT IS SKILL !

When you suck at DATY and we pretend we like it - That is SKILL.

When you stay 30 minutes overtime talking our brains of about NOTHING and we still have a BIG smile on our faces and
let you stay just a little bit longer? - That is SKILL hehehehe - That one is funny.
When you cannot cum for whatever reason and she hangs off the bed to give you that upside down BJ that has you at a loss for words? THAT is SKILL!

Escorts ARE underpaid. Again - Escorts are Underpaid!

Sucking and fucking isn't rocket science - but it is when you're fucking a complete stranger IT KINDA IS. It is physically and mentally taxing to some. Fucking and sucking my bf (doesn't currently exist but you get it)? That's a treat. Fucking and sucking someone that you have NO connection with (not talking about regulars here) and having the ability to make that man feel like it wasn't a service? - THAT IS SKILL

Like I told your other buddy, To You guys that are saying "oh you're paying too much", How about you guys buy a wig, go to the TS section of eros and post an ad for $50. After you have been fucked in the ass by 10 guys a day - Please report back and let me know how that worked out for ya.

hehehehehehehehehe

Now I have met some truly wonderful men in this business, they know who they are
because I give them huge discounts off my rates. Those men are a TREAT. They treat me with kindness
and respect maybe because that is all they have received from me from day one ontop of damn good service/performance.

So you won't pay more than $100 for a session.. well I will never suck your dick for less than $300. Too bad we will not be meeting. There are hundreds of guys willing to pay a premium to meet me.

Have a wonderful night! All smiles!
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:03 AM   #116
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Like someone earlier in this thread mentioned, you guys overpay big time. Escorting is what I would call unskilled labor. There are people breaking their backs and losing fingers working in the Texas summer heat for minimum wage. To pay a young girl with no other skills, experience, job prospects as much as I do(50 to 60 bucks an hour) is generous. What else are they gonna do? Suckin and fuckin isnt rocket science or brain surgery.
As has been said many times before, supply and mostly demand set the price. If everyone thought the way you did and would not pay over, say, $100 for an hour with a provider, the providers would either walk away from their current livlihood or drop their prices. From what I've seen, there are many guys out there who see the value in paying $200, $300, and even more for an hour.

As Naomi said, she would not work for $100/hour. As long as she can make more for doing what she does, there is no reason to accept less.
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:13 AM   #117
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Naomi et al, my first thought after reading your post was "you go girl, that's exactly right".

Upon further reflection, though, why the hell would you see guys like that in the first place? It almost sounds like someone is forcing you to see the stinking 400 pounders with bad breath. Set some standards and run your biz accordingly.


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Unskilled? What?

When she is holding her breath without you knowing because your breath smells like shit or you smell like BO - THAT is skill.

When she is pretending that she's enjoying YOU kissing her - That is SKILL

When you are fucking her and she tells you that she wants it doggy style so she doesn't have to look at your face but yet makes you feel as if she just LOOOVES that position- THat is skill!

When you weigh 400lbs and she has to literally LIFT your stomach up to give you an award winning BJ? That is SKILL!

When you walk through the door looking like shit and she smiles and hugs you and kisses you like you were denzel Washington/Bradley cooper/brad pitt/johnny depp - That is SKILL!

When you kiss like you're a fucking bull dog and she tells you that she dying to suck your dick - it's a lie - you just can't kiss -But you're turned on aren't ya? - THAT IS SKILL !

When you suck at DATY and we pretend we like it - That is SKILL.

When you stay 30 minutes overtime talking our brains of about NOTHING and we still have a BIG smile on our faces and
let you stay just a little bit longer? - That is SKILL hehehehe - That one is funny.
When you cannot cum for whatever reason and she hangs off the bed to give you that upside down BJ that has you at a loss for words? THAT is SKILL!

Escorts ARE underpaid. Again - Escorts are Underpaid!

Sucking and fucking isn't rocket science - but it is when you're fucking a complete stranger IT KINDA IS. It is physically and mentally taxing to some. Fucking and sucking my bf (doesn't currently exist but you get it)? That's a treat. Fucking and sucking someone that you have NO connection with (not talking about regulars here) and having the ability to make that man feel like it wasn't a service? - THAT IS SKILL

Like I told your other buddy, To You guys that are saying "oh you're paying too much", How about you guys buy a wig, go to the TS section of eros and post an ad for $50. After you have been fucked in the ass by 10 guys a day - Please report back and let me know how that worked out for ya.

hehehehehehehehehe

Now I have met some truly wonderful men in this business, they know who they are
because I give them huge discounts off my rates. Those men are a TREAT. They treat me with kindness
and respect maybe because that is all they have received from me from day one ontop of damn good service/performance.

So you won't pay more than $100 for a session.. well I will never suck your dick for less than $300. Too bad we will not be meeting. There are hundreds of guys willing to pay a premium to meet me.

Have a wonderful night! All smiles!
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Naomi et al, my first thought after reading your post was "you go girl, that's exactly right".

Upon further reflection, though, why the hell would you see guys like that in the first place? It almost sounds like someone is forcing you to see the stinking 400 pounders with bad breath. Set some standards and run your biz accordingly.
I appreciated Naomi's post as well. Made me smile a little bit.

Why would escorts see a man who is obese? Why not? I would never be prejudice about seeing a larger man anymore than I would be prejudice about seeing a guy who is 5'2". I'm a big girl and so I understand.

And sometimes bigger people have a stronger smell. Probably diet related but often, it's completely fine to just ignore it and continue. It's not a big deal to me.

It has nothing to do with "standards" but has to do with being kind, loving and performing a service to someone who needs us. I would hate to think that others are so small minded as to suggest that if we see someone who wouldn't rate as a perfect size and bearing, that we would have low standards.

Anyone reading this who isn't perfect, and that includes guys in wheelchairs, please call me. I have completely low standards! Ha.
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Naomi et al, my first thought after reading your post was "you go girl, that's exactly right".

Upon further reflection, though, why the hell would you see guys like that in the first place? It almost sounds like someone is forcing you to see the stinking 400 pounders with bad breath. Set some standards and run your biz accordingly.

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I appreciated Naomi's post as well. Made me smile a little bit.

Why would escorts see a man who is obese? Why not? I would never be prejudice about seeing a larger man anymore than I would be prejudice about seeing a guy who is 5'2". I'm a big girl and so I understand.

And sometimes bigger people have a stronger smell. Probably diet related but often, it's completely fine to just ignore it and continue. It's not a big deal to me.

It has nothing to do with "standards" but has to do with being kind, loving and performing a service to someone who needs us. I would hate to think that others are so small minded as to suggest that if we see someone who wouldn't rate as a perfect size and bearing, that we would have low standards.

Anyone reading this who isn't perfect, and that includes guys in wheelchairs, please call me. I have completely low standards! Ha.

Elisabeth and Mr. P,

Anyone that reads my posts here on eccie or knows my work site will tell you that I do not see obese men. I also do not see disabled men. No I am not equal opportunity provider at all. My post was pretty much picking the thoughts of working ladies and combining them. The only one that applied to me was the one about a guy kissing me like a bulldog and overstaying their time. This happened last week. You already know my personality here, Elizabeth - I have no problem turning an obese man away. That is just that. If you notice in that post I never once said "I" but "we" or "she". There are a lot of ladies here desperate for money and willing to see whomever to make a quick buck - that has never been me from day one. Kudos to those ladies. I will never see a man that is repulsive to me. My overall point of that post was - Escorts are underpaid. Mr. P, If there is any woman in this business that has set standards, stays true to herself, isn't pretentious and still makes damn GOOD money in this so called recession - It's me.

Oh and another thing that I have learned - we (independents) can't all relate. I have NEVER had a NCNS ever but yet it's posted in the alert section everyday. I have never had a bad client but yet alerts are being posted every day, I have never had a smelly client but it's posted on blacklist everyday, I have never had a guy bring drugs to my incall but it's posted on the alert section of this site every day. To those things, I cannot relate. Ever wonder why some ladies posts alerts everyday and others haven't even posted one? I don't know the answer to that question. I'm still trying to figure it out. My point here is : We all don't run our businesses the same so our experiences will differ.

To the others: I cater to men that appreciate top notch service/performance and experience. All my guests are invited to a 4 star hotel and nothing less - ever. I am dress impeccably in lingerie for them (if requested). I have wine and whatever else they request available upon their arrival. You will never find remains of Mr. E or used condoms left in the trash bin, You will arrive with the impression that you are the first guy I saw that day (if you aren't ). I always tell the guys that contact me "if I give you less than what you expected , I will make it up to you." Let's just say I've never had to makeup a session. Can a girl that charges $100 do that? No. That would be a waste of time and money for her. At $100 an hour after expenses are paid, the girl is left with pretty much nothing. Think about it. That is mental and physical abuse.
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Unskilled? What?

When she is holding her breath without you knowing because your breath smells like shit or you smell like BO - THAT is skill.

When she is pretending that she's enjoying YOU kissing her - That is SKILL

When you are fucking her and she tells you that she wants it doggy style so she doesn't have to look at your face but yet makes you feel as if she just LOOOVES that position- THat is skill!

When you weigh 400lbs and she has to literally LIFT your stomach up to give you an award winning BJ? That is SKILL!

When you walk through the door looking like shit and she smiles and hugs you and kisses you like you were denzel Washington/Bradley cooper/brad pitt/johnny depp - That is SKILL!

When you kiss like you're a fucking bull dog and she tells you that she dying to suck your dick - it's a lie - you just can't kiss -But you're turned on aren't ya? - THAT IS SKILL !

When you suck at DATY and we pretend we like it - That is SKILL.

When you stay 30 minutes overtime talking our brains of about NOTHING and we still have a BIG smile on our faces and
let you stay just a little bit longer? - That is SKILL hehehehe - That one is funny.
When you cannot cum for whatever reason and she hangs off the bed to give you that upside down BJ that has you at a loss for words? THAT is SKILL!

Escorts ARE underpaid. Again - Escorts are Underpaid!

Sucking and fucking isn't rocket science - but it is when you're fucking a complete stranger IT KINDA IS. It is physically and mentally taxing to some. Fucking and sucking my bf (doesn't currently exist but you get it)? That's a treat. Fucking and sucking someone that you have NO connection with (not talking about regulars here) and having the ability to make that man feel like it wasn't a service? - THAT IS SKILL

Like I told your other buddy, To You guys that are saying "oh you're paying too much", How about you guys buy a wig, go to the TS section of eros and post an ad for $50. After you have been fucked in the ass by 10 guys a day - Please report back and let me know how that worked out for ya.

hehehehehehehehehe

Now I have met some truly wonderful men in this business, they know who they are
because I give them huge discounts off my rates. Those men are a TREAT. They treat me with kindness
and respect maybe because that is all they have received from me from day one ontop of damn good service/performance.

So you won't pay more than $100 for a session.. well I will never suck your dick for less than $300. Too bad we will not be meeting. There are hundreds of guys willing to pay a premium to meet me.

Have a wonderful night! All smiles!
Oh HELL YEA !! YES MAAM !
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