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09-08-2017, 06:57 AM
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#106
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
You obviously don't need anything else, but it could be a "conspiracy" ... .you know ... "a fabricated video."
That's a rather "broad brush" don't you think? Or do you "think"?
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A conspiracy? Really? Cmon Lexus....
If there was even a slight suspicion that the video was doctored or fabricated in anyway, the PD would never had made such a scathing statement about the officer's actions and there would have been something said that sounded sympathetic, but yet unapologetic, not the full throated apology that was given.
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09-08-2017, 07:23 AM
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#107
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Originally Posted by grean
A conspiracy? Really? Cmon Lexus....
If there was even a slight suspicion that the video was doctored or fabricated in anyway, the PD would never had made such a scathing statement about the officer's actions and there would have been something said that sounded sympathetic, but yet unapologetic, not the full throated apology that was given.
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Do not let LL fool you.
LL rushes to judgement on everything but Police Officers and GOP politicians....then he reserves a lifetime of judgement.
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09-08-2017, 10:41 AM
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#108
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Originally Posted by grean
A conspiracy? Really? Cmon Lexus....
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Now look what you've done! You've stirred up the mentally deficient ... by forgetting I might have been posting sarcasm, which I did ... addressing some who post on here who make a "conspiracy" out of the Earth's rotation (exaggeration!).
And BTW .. you "cherry picked" what I posted. Not good!
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09-08-2017, 10:51 AM
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#109
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Originally Posted by grean
The hospital probably did draw blood for the things you mentioned. If, later, probable cause was established, a court order could get those records.
Implied consent is assumed by the hospital when some one is unconscious absent a DNR, or other directive from patient prior to losing consciousness.
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Well, there are a number of "issues" with your speculation ...
... #1: IF a draw was made by the hospital. #2 when the draw was made by the hospital. #3 what "tests" were requested by the hospital staff for the lab to perform. #4. What lab results were actually reported. #5. the protocol of the hospital personnel, chain of custody, sample retention for further testing, and qualifications of those handling the draw, sample transfer, and processing in the lab to the preparation of the report.
... and then there are privacy concerns and processes that must be followed in order to obtain a persons medical records from the hospital. It could take weeks to the get the results even if admissible into evidence, relative to the issues, and/or reliable from the qualification and verification point of view.
LE is focused on one issue ... impairment ...
Again, I'm not defending any unlawful actions taken by anyone, including the hospital personnel who may believe they have the "right" to interfere with a lawful investigation of a collision in which there was a death and serious bodily injury ...and time delays resulting in blood evidence becoming "not probative" because the alcohol or other substances that can cause impairment in the blood dissipates during the normal metabolism process.
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09-08-2017, 03:24 PM
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#110
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
LE is focused on one issue ... impairment ...
Again, I'm not defending any unlawful actions taken by anyone, including the hospital personnel who may believe they have the "right" to interfere with a lawful investigation of a collision in which there was a death and serious bodily injury ...and time delays resulting in blood evidence becoming "not probative" because the alcohol or other substances that can cause impairment in the blood dissipates during the normal metabolism process.
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Let me translate folks....LL is defending the Cops actions.
He does not have the balls to flat out say so but LL is defending these Cops actions that day.
The Cops were on a high speed chase with a traffic violator, the traffic violator ran head on into a 18 wheeler whose truck then caught on fire. The innocent truck driver was the man at the hospital who the Cops wanted blood from.
To recap, these Cops wanted blood from an innocent bystander that was badly injured by a suspect the Cops were chasing!
They were trying to absolve themselves of responsibility. ''The truck driver was impaired. It was not our fault we were chasing a traffic violator 100 mph down the road and he ran head on into another driver", that had nothing to do with this other than being at the wrong place at the wrong time!
As a side note the man the Police were trying to get a blood sample from was a reserve deputy in another county.
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09-08-2017, 10:22 PM
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LLIarMan says stupid shit and then can't walk it back.
Another day another fucking lie.
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09-09-2017, 08:23 AM
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These officers were clearly in the wrong....the more video that comes to light, the worse they look.
They admit the arrest will not stick.
They admit they will bring 'bad' patients to the hospital and good patients to other hospitals in the future.
Yet , LL makes excuses.
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09-09-2017, 08:25 AM
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^^^^^ SPAM
YouRong and WTF... vvvvvvv
The Spam Manless!
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09-09-2017, 09:56 AM
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They don't suspend the rights. They can get a search warrant in minutes (on call judge) and in Texas, forcibly draw your blood.
http://dui.findlaw.com/dui-arrests/n...forcement.html
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No such thing as "No Refusal". The police cannot suspend people's rights.
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09-09-2017, 10:03 AM
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According to the law, the police officer/detective is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Based on the evidence that has been presented, the officers should be indicted and charged with oppression at the least.
Once they are indicted they should be fired until the court can determine they should never ever be in law enforcement again. We do not need law enforcement like this anywhere in this nation.
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09-09-2017, 10:25 AM
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RESIGN NOW, Nazi fuck
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09-09-2017, 10:30 AM
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You figured that out by yourself?
The comment was a comparison between a mis-applied policy in Utah (the op) and a clearly defined procedure, which included the need for a warrant, in Texas.
After your debacle, in which flipflopping, evasion, and denial about access to UT, you're the last person to be asked for criteria defining the scope of a response to a thread. Your "event" post was just as stupid. When something is described as one of the largest, one of the most tragic, or you taking on the Houston chapter of NAMBLA in a cocksucking contest, it can simply be described as "the event" in following content. No one but you thinks less of the event by shortening the description. So STFU.
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Getting a court order authorizing the withdrawing of blood doesn't resolve any of the offensive issues regarding the process and does not address the THE PRIMARY ISSUE of who is going to draw the blood (meaning who is qualified to draw the blood and who is qualified to testify about the process with sufficient medical credentials for the testimony to be admissible).
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09-09-2017, 12:19 PM
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#118
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Originally Posted by Munchmasterman
After your debacle, in which flipflopping, evasion, and denial about access to UT, you're the last person to be asked for criteria defining the scope of a response to a thread.
So STFU.
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I'm sorry you have reading comprehension problems. That should have been addressed while you were in the 1st grade, instead of now while you are struggling to graduate from high school.
Oh. As for Eccie. The mods are the ones who tell me to STFU.
Now, go stick a sock in it, or something else to your liking.
I won't even address your lameass, ignorant remark about UT @ Austin.
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09-09-2017, 12:54 PM
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#119
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Originally Posted by LexusLover
I won't even address your lameass, ignorant remark about UT @ Austin.
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You just did....
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09-09-2017, 08:04 PM
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#120
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I just tried to get across town but the roads were blocked.
Didn't have my permit!
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