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Old 04-29-2016, 02:10 PM   #106
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That was interesting. Thank you for sharing - I had no clue!!
Love that My Donald is gonna blow Lucifer - I mean Cruz- out of the water in Indiana!!!




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Old 05-02-2016, 12:45 PM   #107
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Yew folks oughta go ta this h'yar website! Load up on yer bets an' take it ta tha bank! Y'all gonna make a whole buncha dinero offa them Demmycrats!
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Face it. Trump will be the next President of the United States. And the Mexican and European politicians will have to deal with him. We are Americans. Time we asserted our power once again.
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Old 05-02-2016, 01:38 PM   #108
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Hate women? Wonder how many he employs getting at or above min. wage? How many receive health insurance? He's financing his own campaign.

Hillary? I'd guess most are volunteers. Probably have no jobs which means, even though she receives millions to "speak", her volunteers are being paid through gov't handouts. So we're paying for her workers. It's the Democratic way.
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You are going to be in for a Big surprise in November if you think Trump is going to carry the women's vote. I work with, grew up with and know plenty of Latinos and don't know one who would vote for Trump. There is no way he will get the women or Latino vote. I'm predicting a landslide victory for Hillary.
Here are the latest polls:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...nton-5491.html

The latest Rasmussen poll actually has Trump leading 41% - 39% overall but trailing with women voters 44% - 34% and with minorities other than black 45% - 33%. Sampling error +/- 3%.

I think a lot of decision-making will be done by voters between now and November.

http://www.wnd.com/2016/05/poll-trum...ainst-hillary/
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Old 05-02-2016, 04:16 PM   #110
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I understand but it isn't that simple. They have to be supportive enough of Hillary to turn out and vote and they aren't that motivated. What they will do is just stay home.
I disagree. I think the turnout for the November election will be very high on both sides. Republicans hate Clinton. Democrats hate Trump. Many will be going to the polls to vote against a candidate rather than vote for a candidate.
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Actually he compromises all the time and is very rational. If you wanna know more about the real Trump look beyond the bluster and accusations and listen to people who have worked with him. Even Left wing Piers Morgan says he's different than his detractors claim. Morgan actually knows him.
Trump is on record as saying he is "not a huge compromiser".

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/...e-compromiser/

I am not anti-Trump. He is saying things that are popular, especially among Conservatives who think the country is going in the wrong direction. "We will make America great again." "I'm going to make good deals". "I'm going to have a wall built between the U.S. and Mexico and Mexico will pay for it." "I'm the worst thing that every happened to ISIS." And he will get rid of Obamacare for "something" better.

As I've said before, the time between the conventions and the November election will be very interesting.
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I disagree. I think the turnout for the November election will be very high on both sides. Republicans hate Clinton. Democrats hate Trump. Many will be going to the polls to vote against a candidate rather than vote for a candidate.
You have a point but only in a limited manner. The Trump haters are a small minority. Most of the people showing up in the polls disapproving of Trump will come to accept him. This is what happened among Republicans. His ratings at the start among Republicans were similarly bad, but with time he won them over. The big fear about Trump among Democrats is his ability to bring in Independents (and I don't mean Indie escorts although that might also be correct) and blue collar Democrats. The blue collar Democrats in the rust belt and truck drivers and in places like New Jersey will vote for Trump over Hillary. Look to the "Reagan Democrats" in 1980 and you will see the same. Trump will carry the "Joe Sixpack" Democrats such as union members and those who's jobs are threatened by free trade. Trump is divisive but he unites a majority behind him. That's his strategy and it's successful. Completely and totally successful as a strategist. He's one smart Dude but not any one's idea of an intellectual.
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Old 05-04-2016, 11:24 AM   #113
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Look how long ago I started this thread and how I called it and tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. I know this shit.
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Yup- there it is baby!!! Trump is heading for the White House!! Whoohoo!!






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You have a point but only in a limited manner. The Trump haters are a small minority. Most of the people showing up in the polls disapproving of Trump will come to accept him. This is what happened among Republicans. His ratings at the start among Republicans were similarly bad, but with time he won them over. The big fear about Trump among Democrats is his ability to bring in Independents (and I don't mean Indie escorts although that might also be correct) and blue collar Democrats. The blue collar Democrats in the rust belt and truck drivers and in places like New Jersey will vote for Trump over Hillary. Look to the "Reagan Democrats" in 1980 and you will see the same. Trump will carry the "Joe Sixpack" Democrats such as union members and those who's jobs are threatened by free trade. Trump is divisive but he unites a majority behind him. That's his strategy and it's successful. Completely and totally successful as a strategist. He's one smart Dude but not any one's idea of an intellectual.
Here is a link to the latest poll done by CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/04/politi...eral-election/

The results confirm, at least in this poll, what I stated. More people are planning to vote against Trump than are planning to vote for Clinton and more people are planning to vote against Clinton than are planning to vote for Trump.

I watched CNN last night for election returns and the CNN analyst pointed out that it will be very difficult for Trump to win the election. He believes the key states in the election will be Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. I would add Florida to the list. For whatever reason, the CNN analyst believes Florida will go Democratic for sure.

Obama won the electoral count in 2012 by 332 - 206. That means that 64 electoral votes must go red (Republican) that were blue (Democrat) in 2012.
Wisconsin has 10. Michigan 16. Ohio 18. Pennsylvania 20. Florida 29.
Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania are states that have gone blue for many Presidential elections. Pennsylvania since 1988. Michigan since 1988. Wisconsin since 1984. I expect Michigan to stay blue in 2016. Probably Wisconsin too. That leaves 67 open electoral votes in my opinion. If true, that means Trump must win Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida to be victorious.
A tough task but hardly impossible. A lot could happen in 6 months. Clinton could be in jail before then.

I'd be interested in hearing your opinion how Trump will be victorious. What states will shift from blue to red in 2016? Anyone else feel free to give us your opinion.
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You have a point. However, in 2012 you had Obama running against Mitt Romney--ewwwww. I didn't even bother to vote - lots of people did not bother to vote. So it will be interesting as there will be people coming out to vote that did not in the last 2 elections. This year I'm ready to cast my vote - and I am a Trumpet - I'm voting for the Donald.
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I think the newness of a black candidate largely skewed the results of the last two elections.

This year you have two middle aged white guys squaring off against each other.

The preponderance of documented and alleged corruption for clinton will be her downfall.

She has been an enemy of Americans.

"LANDED UNDER SNIPER FIRE"

Some of the things she has done are.unforegiveable. America will grow to see that.

Trump is often an asswipe...but...I think he CARES about Americans...Hillary cares about whatevwr will get and keep her in power. That will come out over the campaign

She is the anti christ.
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Here is a link to the latest poll done by CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/04/politi...eral-election/

The results confirm, at least in this poll, what I stated. More people are planning to vote against Trump than are planning to vote for Clinton and more people are planning to vote against Clinton than are planning to vote for Trump.

I watched CNN last night for election returns and the CNN analyst pointed out that it will be very difficult for Trump to win the election. He believes the key states in the election will be Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. I would add Florida to the list. For whatever reason, the CNN analyst believes Florida will go Democratic for sure.

Obama won the electoral count in 2012 by 332 - 206. That means that 64 electoral votes must go red (Republican) that were blue (Democrat) in 2012.
Wisconsin has 10. Michigan 16. Ohio 18. Pennsylvania 20. Florida 29.
Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania are states that have gone blue for many Presidential elections. Pennsylvania since 1988. Michigan since 1988. Wisconsin since 1984. I expect Michigan to stay blue in 2016. Probably Wisconsin too. That leaves 67 open electoral votes in my opinion. If true, that means Trump must win Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida to be victorious.
A tough task but hardly impossible. A lot could happen in 6 months. Clinton could be in jail before then.

I'd be interested in hearing your opinion how Trump will be victorious. What states will shift from blue to red in 2016? Anyone else feel free to give us your opinion.
I understand the polls but it's way too early for them to be accurate. We haven't even gotten to the conventions yet! Everything will change after the conventions.

Once more I have to repeat that Trump will win for these reasons: 1.White male wage earners who are threatened by free trade such as the ones who turned out in droves for him in Indiana and other places. 2.Independents drawn to his message who have never voted before. 3.Evangelicals - the crowd that voted for Bush Jr. and Reagan are crazy for Trump. 4. AND other sundry people like Evangelicals who are afraid of terrorism or crime from immigrants.

BTW...

Look at the campaign of Abraham Lincoln in 1860 and you will see many similarities. Lincoln opposed immigration and catholics because they threatened to drive down wages and other reasons. He also opposed slavery but not for moral reasons. He opposed slavery because it depressed wages for workers [ "slave power" as he called it]. He also was opposed to free trade and sought high tariffs to protect industry. He also wanted government spending on infrastructure. Lincoln and Trump could be twins.
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You have a point. However, in 2012 you had Obama running against Mitt Romney--ewwwww. I didn't even bother to vote - lots of people did not bother to vote. So it will be interesting as there will be people coming out to vote that did not in the last 2 elections. This year I'm ready to cast my vote - and I am a Trumpet - I'm voting for the Donald.
Well, we could go back to 2008 if you prefer where Obama beat McCain 365 -173. Obama lost Indiana and North Carolina in 2012 that he won in 2008. Does McCain register an "ewwwww" with you too? lol.

My vote as of today is going to Gary Johnson. I can't vote for either Trump or Clinton.
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I understand the polls but it's way too early for them to be accurate. We haven't even gotten to the conventions yet! Everything will change after the conventions.

Once more I have to repeat that Trump will win for these reasons: 1.White male wage earners who are threatened by free trade such as the ones who turned out in droves for him in Indiana and other places. 2.Independents drawn to his message who have never voted before. 3.Evangelicals - the crowd that voted for Bush Jr. and Reagan are crazy for Trump. 4. AND other sundry people like Evangelicals who are afraid of terrorism or crime from immigrants.

BTW...

Look at the campaign of Abraham Lincoln in 1860 and you will see many similarities. Lincoln opposed immigration and catholics because they threatened to drive down wages and other reasons. He also opposed slavery but not for moral reasons. He opposed slavery because it depressed wages for workers [ "slave power" as he called it]. He also was opposed to free trade and sought high tariffs to protect industry. He also wanted government spending on infrastructure. Lincoln and Trump could be twins.
I don't think comparing Lincoln in 1860 to Trump in 2016 is very fair or accurate. The man rated the best President of all time to a man with few accomplishments outside the business world.

In 1988 George Bush won 58% of the white male vote and won easily. In 2012, Romney won 58% of the white male vote and got destroyed. And there are less whit male voters percentage-wise today than in 2012. Trump fails with Latinos and blacks and women. Trump has little credibility among these groups and unless he can pull a great many of them over to his side, he will have a tough time in the election. I don't necessarily disagree with your 4 groups of potential voters, but most in those groups are white, which Trump already has in his pocket.

I agree with you that there is still 6 months to go in the campaign and a great deal can change. The debates will be interesting. Trump's wild card is Clinton's fiasco with her server. Impossible to know what affect that will have on the public. Oh, and if Sanders enters the November race as an independent, Clinton is probably toast. Anyone wonder why Trump encouraged Sanders to do so?

I still have to ask -- what states do you believe Trump will win that Romney lost in 2012? All statements pro-Trump are subjective. Being objective is by stating in what states Trump will do it that both McCain and Romney did not.

Here is one person's opinion on the subject:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...tion/83863926/

And here are two more opinions on why trump can win:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...llary-clinton/

http://www.indystar.com/story/opinio...ouse/83902556/

But if you are a 100% Trump supporter, you should avoid reading this Newsweek article out yesterday:

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-track-...e-house-455575
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