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Old 12-19-2019, 07:29 PM   #91
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Even though it is a crime in progress, she wants to be as sure the trial would be as fair as possible. But, I've explained that here.
Pelosi’s sham was so fair that 3 Dems voted against it and the Republicans picked up a Democratic seat before the election. Pelosi has no basis to demand anything from the Senate and she won’t get anything. Pelosi said it was urgent to impeach Trump but now takes a few weeks off. She said the case is strong and irrefutable. If that’s the case why is Schumer asking for more witnesses. It defies logic. But radical liberalism always defies logic.
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Old 12-19-2019, 07:32 PM   #92
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Lying Nancy is "so concerned" about Due process and fairness now, where the fuck was that idea before? she got her ass handed to her, now she wants to change the rules of the game. fuck that Bitch!

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Old 12-19-2019, 07:32 PM   #93
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So 200 some Congress men and women heard enough evidence to impeach ( find him guilty in other words ) a President but unless we hear from 4 more people, Senators won't be able to make a decision based on the evidence? Do I have that about right? The 200 some Democrats could reach an opinion on what they heard but Senators can not. Yeah, makes perfect sense.
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Old 12-19-2019, 08:03 PM   #94
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Schumer has all the Minority backing in the Senate. Only needs four from the Majority to help make the rules fair and call their witnesses.
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Old 12-19-2019, 08:09 PM   #95
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Schumer has all the Minority backing in the Senate. Only needs four from the Majority to help make the rules fair and call their witnesses.
Are you sure about that? How about Manchin and Jones. WVa loves Trump but Manchin is safe, Jones not so much. He’ll probably lose either way.
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Old 12-19-2019, 09:18 PM   #96
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Pelosi’s sham was so fair that 3 Dems voted against it and the Republicans picked up a Democratic seat before the election. Pelosi has no basis to demand anything from the Senate and she won’t get anything. Pelosi said it was urgent to impeach Trump but now takes a few weeks off. She said the case is strong and irrefutable. If that’s the case why is Schumer asking for more witnesses. It defies logic. But radical liberalism always defies logic.

Schumer is asking for witnesses to convince the American people. Not the Senate since the leader has already made his decision before hearing the case. I can understand how that would defy reactionary conservative logic.

I wonder if McConnell and Graham will actually take the oath to be impartial. Or if they will even get the case.


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So 200 some Congress men and women heard enough evidence to impeach ( find him guilty in other words )

Wrong. Impeach yes. Not find him guilty.

a President but unless we hear from 4 more people, Senators won't be able to make a decision based on the evidence?

I thought you knew how this worked?


Do I have that about right?

Nope.

The 200 some Democrats could reach an opinion on what they heard but Senators can not. Yeah, makes perfect sense.
Impeachment is to indictment, as decision is to verdict. Got it?


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Are you sure about that? How about Manchin and Jones. WVa loves Trump but Manchin is safe, Jones not so much. He’ll probably lose either way.

Yes. Heard it live.











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Old 12-20-2019, 05:54 AM   #97
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Schumer is asking for witnesses to convince the American people. Not the Senate since the leader has already made his decision before hearing the case. I can understand how that would defy reactionary conservative logic.

I wonder if McConnell and Graham will actually take the oath to be impartial. Or if they will even get the case.


Impeachment is to indictment, as decision is to verdict. Got it?
It is the duty of the actors in a criminal trial to bring forth the truth, including any exculpatory evidence which benefits the accused.

Significant pretrial discovery also is required to be fair to the accused.

Those things are among the duties of the Senate in this process and need to be faithfully carried out by the parties on both sides.
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Old 12-20-2019, 06:06 AM   #98
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Are you sure about that? How about Manchin and Jones. WVa loves Trump but Manchin is safe, Jones not so much. He’ll probably lose either way.
Manchin voted for Kavanaugh.

Lawfare has something planned. The whole situ is too well thought out other than the Ukranian premise. My guess is the are waiting for SCOTUS rulings and impeachment of Pence so they can stack stuff. They are evil. Start watching for confrontation of these Congressional demons and their lawyer acolytes in the coming weeks.
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Old 12-20-2019, 07:58 AM   #99
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Yeah everything was rush rush rush , NOW full stop ,so the Rhetoric and Hypocrisy can continue thru the Holiday season just for the cnn watchers ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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9500-Schumer is asking for witnesses to convince the American people. Not the Senate since the leader has already made his decision before hearing the case. I can understand how that would defy reactionary conservative logic.
I wonder if McConnell and Graham will actually take the oath to be impartial. Or if they will even get the case.


And - how many of the DPST Senate presidential candidates have made up their mind on the case already?
has Schumer already made up his mind to convict?
"Fairness" - after the partisan Schiff show Slanted Rules in the House -

Truly hypocritical, 9500
Now - go play with Eric Swalwell and your nuke toys!
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Old 12-20-2019, 10:52 AM   #101
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Yeah everything was rush rush rush , NOW full stop ,so the Rhetoric and Hypocrisy can continue thru the Holiday season just for the cnn watchers ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
yeah, the CNN that holds people HOSTAGE at airports, because they paid 6 million fucking dollars for the "right". no thinking person would watch that Socialist propaganda otherwise.
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Old 12-20-2019, 11:06 AM   #102
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just goes to show - the most prominent Socialist supporters are also flagrant "Capitalists"
Blooomberg. Bernie, Lizzzie, CNN, and the "Beat goes On"!
DPST's never saw an hypocrisy they didn't like!
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Old 12-20-2019, 11:49 AM   #103
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just goes to show - the most prominent Socialist supporters are also flagrant "Capitalists"
Blooomberg. Bernie, Lizzzie, CNN, and the "Beat goes On"!
DPST's never saw an hypocrisy they didn't like!
oh yeah, they know they are Socialists, and some people see through their Bullshit.. Warren and Sanders are millionaires pretending to be Blue-collar, they are both white, but can't stand to be called that, so Bernie emphasizes being a Jew, and Warren says her 1/1024 Indian blood makes her a tribal Leader.

Bloomberg and Steyer are the biggest white-guilt promoters, America made them rich, but they hate American values.
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Old 12-21-2019, 01:37 AM   #104
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oh look, one of our Lefties got something right!
who are you calling lefties?
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Old 12-21-2019, 01:49 AM   #105
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Yay....Finally playing fire with fire. Nancy will not turn over the articles of impeachment to the Senate until Mitch McConnell agrees to rules that the Democrats find acceptable. Since the Articles of Impeachment never expire this means the trial wont start in January and can be delayed for as long as the Dems want. Mitch and Lindsey underestimated Nancy...Trump is gonna feel the pressure and we will delay for as long as we want to extract maximum damage from Trump's reputation leading up to the next election. Finally we're playing fire with fire!!! I love you mama Nancy. I love you.
Absolute idiot! Like a grand jury finding, if it's not submitted then it did not happen. Trump has not been impeached until those articles have been submitted. The senate acts as the jury, the House is the investigator.
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