key party anyone?

[Codybeast]

All of these ladies are beautiful and most of these ladies I would Jump at the opportunity to meet.

Obviously everyone has their type. Please don't mob stone me for asking a basic logical question in the midst of all the excitement as this is NOT a critique. I am simply seeking an honest logical answer.

A social I totally get where it is a basic meet and greet to make a connection, determine chemistry etc. Very few ladies here displayed much interest in that.

I can see what the obvious benefit of a key party is to these beautiful ladies as the $$ is equally green and is guaranteed up front no matter who attends once screened.

If I am reading this correctly then the benefit to the gentlemen is the "Mystery" of NOT Having a Clue as to whose time he just paid for? Mystery is fine and dandy but we are talking the same $$ for a 1/12 chance of being with his first choice whom he could simply have selected and called directly.

I find it hard to imagine that every gentleman would be equally interested in all 12 beauties attending. Again once screening is completed the $$ is just as green on one side of the fence but what's the advantage on the other?

OK preparing shield to deflect incoming arrows.

[knotty man]

no arrows bro. appreciate the civility and tact of your question. i dont presume to speak for all the guys here and definitely not for any of the ladies either. these are just MY feelings.i for 1 would not have a problem with ANY of these ladies. i feel we have an allstar cast. and from the pm's ive been getting so do others. but, if this isnt your bag man i respect your opinion. the ladies who have asked to participate all have great reviews, true they dont all have the same menus, but neither do us guys. thats is why im asking everyone to do their own research and decide for themselves and only then should you make your decision. as far as the ladies we gotta remember they are commiting 2-3 hrs of their time (albeit only 1 hr BCD) but that is more than most of us usually book for. i for one applaud their effort to restore the "family" feel to this community. they are truly putting their lips (both sets) where their money is. again i appreciate you keeping this friendly, thank you

[knotty man]

Sensual Sophia has accepted the position as home team capt. she will be takin your screening info and passing it along for approval. she will also be coordinting with the ladies as far as fees ,venue, and date. she will also assign shift teams. lets all wish her luck! thank you Sophia

[Kit-4-Kat]

Thanks for stepping up, Sophia. You've definitely proven yourself able to be objective in your professional persona, and have a great rep so I'm sure the gals will be in safe hands. Let me know if you need any administrative help...

Looking f/w to the gathering & am sure if we don't overthink things it will be a fun time for all!

XOXOXO
Kat

[Whispers]

Originally Posted by Codybeast

All of these ladies are beautiful and most of these ladies I would Jump at the opportunity to meet.

Meet Possibly.... But the idea of 12-14 guys being willing to be with ALL of them blindly and pay for it? There is too much range there for most guys tastes...

Obviously everyone has their type. Please don't mob stone me for asking a basic logical question in the midst of all the excitement as this is NOT a critique. I am simply seeking an honest logical answer.

I'll bet against you getting a Logical Answer

A social I totally get where it is a basic meet and greet to make a connection, determine chemistry etc. Very few ladies here displayed much interest in that.

But No One was offering to "PAY" them to come to the social in the form of a guaranteed session.

I can see what the obvious benefit of a key party is to these beautiful ladies as the $$ is equally green and is guaranteed up front no matter who attends once screened.

YUP.. They get to control that aspect of it from the way it is being reported....

If I am reading this correctly then the benefit to the gentlemen is the "Mystery" of NOT Having a Clue as to whose time he just paid for?

I read it the same way...

Mystery is fine and dandy but we are talking the same $$ for a 1/12 chance of being with his first choice whom he could simply have selected and called directly.

There really does not seem to be much benefit to the guys getting involved unless they have no ability to get a lady to spend a couple of hours talking to them. Some guys will pay for Social Interaction. years ago Socials were open and Ladies paid their own way to attend and attended because it made good business sense to do so. Then they became occasions where guys were expected to cover their costs to attend and now here is a new concept where guys are expected to guarantee a session.... There does always seem to be a group that wants to cater to the ladies VS any movement from the ladies to put anything together to attract prospective clientele...... It's a shame. I've been to a lot of great Customer Appreciation Parties hosted by Ladies as well as Agencies over the years that knew the value of occasionally recognizing their client base. Houston, San Antonio, Dallas, Los Angeles, Vegas and Fort Lauderdale.... Never seen one here in Austin though....

I find it hard to imagine that every gentleman would be equally interested in all 12 beauties attending.

Again once screening is completed the $$ is just as green on one side of the fence but what's the advantage on the other?

Good Question!

OK preparing shield to deflect incoming arrows.

Originally Posted by knotty man

....... the ladies who have asked to participate all have great reviews

But all the reviews about them are written by someone that chose to see them... Not someone that simply draws a name from a hat...... you may end up with a review or two out of the norm....

true they dont all have the same menus, but neither do us guys.

Which is a HUGE potential issue for a mismatch..... Good Luck dealing with that.

as far as the ladies we gotta remember they are committing 2-3 hrs of their time (albeit only 1 hr BCD) but that is more than most of us usually book for.

There is a reason why at Socials any actual "Business" is frowned upon yet ladies come to socialize and meet potential clients.... Here you are guaranteeing ladies payment for participating in a meet and greet. The issue with your analogy is that you think there is some additional commitment one of the ladies is making to this where guys should value the time they are bringing to the table.... I don't see it... Seems like your dealing a blow to the Social Concept....

i for one applaud their effort to restore the "family" feel to this community. they are truly putting their lips (both sets) where their money is.

actually, they are simply responding to an opportunity to make money and meet a few prospects in a controlled environment of their choosing.....

again i appreciate you keeping this friendly, thank you

They are investing nothing but time and a session that they are being paid for.

They get to choose who attends based on screening.

The guy has to pony up the cost and settle on possibly his last choice?

Good Luck!

I've been to parties similar in nature but structured more like a swingers party where we each "BYOB" and swapped as desired and we invited a few extras to the mix to allow for doubles where folks clicked.... But everyone in attendance WAS guaranteed of a session with the lady they chose to sponsor....

As I said.. Good Luck...

I'm sure there are guys as well as gals that will participate....

As to it "healing a community"? i think your a bit off base with that idea. unless the only thing you think the community needs is a new way for ladies to make money....

Originally Posted by Kit-4-Kat

Looking f/w to the gathering & am sure if we don't overthink things it will be a fun time for all!

An interesting read and i will applaud knotty man if he pulls this off but I think you went past the "overthinking" it quite a ways back....

Good Luck to all of you!.....

[AcidTripp]

Mad props to you knotty man for being able to put this all together. Of course it wouldn't be possible without the lovely ladies of Austin who believe this will be a great experience. Looking forward to it

[Sensual Sophia]

With all due respect to Whispers and Cody Beast, I was not responding to an opportunity to make money. This is well below the rate I accept for a 1 hour appointments
and I currently am having a fine time more than paying my bills with the generous gents I spend time with. Karma was definitely not speaking for me, or for that matter, any of the providers I know when she complained that business was slow.

I'm not sure why others jumped in, but I thought this would be a fun way to get together with a bunch of people and then end up with a stranger. A fun surprise. There is sort of a lottery aspect here because I think the compensation is below what most of the ladies charge for 1 hour, and definitely below what any charge for 3 hours. Nobody is forced to participate but if they, like me, happen to think it's a fun idea, well then perhaps they like the thrill of the risk involved.

On the topic of me being chosen captain, my PM box is full and I won't be home to empy it till late tonight so please email your info to sensational.sophia@gmail.com. I will try to get relevant info out soon. Thanks Kat for your offer and I would welcome your help.

And Whispers, I have been involved in several customer appreciation parties. Perhaps you were unaware of them because you weren't a customer of any of the ladies throwing these parties. Obviously such events are not usually broadcast to the general membership.

[LadiesFan]

Gongrats to Knotty and all of the ladies involved... I admit I was very skeptical that this could work. I am really glad that you have proved me wrong

Happy Hobbying everyone, and if this seems like a silly / stupid idea to you feel free to just NOT comment, I loves me some drama, but EVERY thread doesn't need the back and forth.

LF

[unagi]

Has a price been settled on?

[Codybeast]

Originally Posted by LadiesFan

I admit I was very skeptical that this could work. I am really glad that you have proved me wrong

Happy Hobbying everyone, and if this seems like a silly / stupid idea to you feel free to just NOT comment, I loves me some drama, but EVERY thread doesn't need the back and forth.

LF

Excuse me LadiesFan

My question was in no way drama based nor intended to be. Nor do I see how it could be construed as such. I certainly did not imply even indirectly that this was either silly or stupid. Those are YOUR words alone and no-one else's. In fact my question was far more courteous and respectful than your response.

It was a basic legitimate logical question asking what the benefit is to the gents vs what it is to the ladies. That question Still has not been answered by Anyone who is for it.

A social creates the same sense of community so that is certainly not the answer.

If it is not money based as beautiful Sophia responded then why are paid sessions a prerequisite to such provider enthusiasm and attendance?

I am neither for nor against it. I simply was hoping to better understand the reasoning or benefit behind a gent paying for a blind date hoping for the best when he doesn't have to.

Are you suggesting that this thread is strictly for those who are 100% blindly supportive and have NO legitimate respectful questions? If that is the case then it is a first and I apologize for overstepping my boundaries by inquiring.

Whisper's post was HIS post, not Mine. I simply asked a reasonable question. I anticipated a few such responses as yours but asked anyway hoping to gain a better understanding behind the theory/logistics of a key party.

You stated yourself that you started out skeptical. I am not skeptical at all. I simply don't get it. Is there something inappropriate about courteously asking? I believe the Bush era of march in step without asking questions because you are either with us or against us days are gone.

I will assume that the fact that I received NO actual clear rational answer IS the answer in itself and am satisfied with that. I shall bow out as courteously as I entered .

[LadiesFan]

man, usually people claim that I am on Team Whispers, now I have been called a WK.

just glad to be here.

LF

[charmingtray]

I believe that the allure would be comparable to a gloryhole adventure. There remains the element of the unknown behind the closed door and expecting the unexpected. It is an added thrill. There is nothing wrong with adding a twist to a recipe that has served you well. Perhaps the men will discover a new ATF just by luck of the draw. Many folks have risked more and gained less. True this is a lottery of sorts but the opportunity for a pleasant social gathering, scoring and then another exchange of pleasantries is a good night. It is sure to be memorable to say the least. IMHO

[runswithscissors]

Originally Posted by Codybeast

It was a basic legitimate logical question asking what the benefit is to the gents vs what it is to the ladies. That question Still has not been answered by Anyone who is for it.



I am neither for nor against it. I simply was hoping to better understand the reasoning or benefit behind a gent paying for a blind date hoping for the best when he doesn't have to.



I will assume that the fact that I received NO actual clear rational answer IS the answer in itself and am satisfied with that. I shall bow out as courteously as I entered .

Just my opinion:

Ever done something just for the fun of it?

Here you have the opportunity to meet and socialize with a group of Ladies, have a few drinks, put a face to a name, maybe realize after talking to a few ladies you have not met before that you would like to see them in the future, and then the mystery and suspense of opening a door and meeting a beautiful lady for a fun encounter.

I will not answer for the Ladies on why they would enjoy this; I will assume that they view it as something different from the normal, and a fun evening of a chance encounter at the end.

I do not think it is an evening to be over analyzed; those that want to participate see it as a new and different experience.

If you are looking at it from a "hard earned dollar" point of view, for the money you are getting to mingle with a group of Ladies some or all you have never met before, having a few drinks, and then a surprise encounter; just for the fun of doing something different.

Again; just my opinion.

[sixxbach]

I like the idea of not knowing who I would wind up with. Makes it fun and exciting! Kudos for trying something different! A couple of the gals mentioned I would enjoying seeing again and well to the ones I haven't would be great to meet!

sixx

[Sensual Sophia]

Originally Posted by Codybeast

If it is not money based as beautiful Sophia responded then why are paid sessions a prerequisite to such provider enthusiasm and attendance?

Hehehe... i just said I wasn't doing it because I NEEDED the money. I will spend 3 hours at the event, probably MANY more organizing it, and I will most likely lose out on at least $250 that night because I will have to turn down an appointment request. I get them most weekday nights, as I'm sure many of the other ladies do. (Ladies, if you get don't those, get on TER) So I'm just assuming that will be the case. I think we are talking about a $200 entry fee here, and the expenses per lady for rooms and refreshments will be about $75. So that's $125 "profit". If I was going to value my time as a commodity, this would be a VERY poor use of my time. But I think it would be fun so I'm offering my time for less than retail value, as are all the other ladies present. Yeah, that's not the same thing as a free party. It's working for less money because you will enjoy the experience -- similar to when gals give discounts to their favorites because they enjoy the time they spend with them.

If there are guys interested in attending a free key party, I welcome them to organize one. I have been to many swingers events and never seen a key party pulled off. Civilian chicks tend to prefer a bit more individual control over who they get down with. Pros can usually have a good time with anyone. It is also generally pretty hard to equalize the sexes at a civi sex event unless gents are required to bring a date. At most of the swingers events I've attended, a large portion of the guys are, unfortunately, unable to get any action at all. In the hobby world, the money equalizes the sexes, and makes it a lot easier on the gents to obtain the gratification that they seek, which is why it's the oldest profession.

Whoever wants to organize the free key party should probably start a new thread so as not to confuse the two topics.

Anyhow, for those that are interested in this event, I have contacted the ladies and we will be picking a date soon. I will keep you updated as soon as I know anything.