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Old 08-10-2021, 07:17 AM   #91
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DPST mandate imposers Rejoice

Vaccines, masks, and social distancing don't prevent transmission of wuhan virus.

So - hard lockdowns are coming - courtesy of your local / national gestapo DPST party - and minions who do love being locked down and teh economy destroyed for their sacred marxist idiotology.

EvryOne- except the favored marxist nomenklatura - gets locked down in homes - with infected illegals to care for , feed, house, and supply ballots to.



rejoice - DPST's - The CDC has converted America to totalitarianism!
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Old 08-10-2021, 07:47 AM   #92
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Rand Paul done said it ( refuse to comply ) and why not all the tiny tyrants ,school systems , hospitals etc refuse to comply with the governor
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Old 08-14-2021, 06:26 AM   #93
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It's not that impressive considering Covid-19 has about a 2% Death rate. If the death rate was 30,40,or 50% that claim would make more sense. Most people who contract covid-19 aren't going to die from it or even be hospitalized. No body who is vaccinated should even get it or have a severe enough case to be hospitalized and they are.
A 2% death rate in a country (USA) with 300 million plus people would be 6 MILLION deaths(if 300 million people got infected). So with the timing of the rollout as it was you could save over 5 million lives in the USA alone.

You do understand or maybe you don't, the message in the mRNA vaccine is a sequence for a long chain of amino acids. This tells your immunity system what antibody to make when you body gets infected with SARS CoV2 virus. The vaccine does not speed up your immune response to a foreign invader. For example if you don't have enough zinc in your system. (Why do you think Trump's doctors gave him Zinc, Vitamin D3 the Remdisivor and the Regeneron antibodies). How fast or slow your immunity system responds to a forign invader (antigen) has nothing to do with the mRNA vaccine. Once your immunity system triggers it will have the instuctions to make the antibody to neutralize SARS CoV2 virus. The triggering of your immunity system will vary from individual to individual. The mRNA vaccine works if it prevents you from dying, period. It can't prevent you from getting infected or getting sick with CoVid. You won't get sick if your immunity system triggers right away to a foreign invader.
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Old 08-14-2021, 07:39 AM   #94
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Sick until proven healthy.
FYI: I'm totally stealing this quote...

Excellent read OP, I don't know how I missed this one
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Old 08-14-2021, 09:01 AM   #95
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A 2% death rate in a country (USA) with 300 million plus people would be 6 MILLION deaths(if 300 million people got infected). So with the timing of the rollout as it was you could save over 5 million lives in the USA alone.

You do understand or maybe you don't, the message in the mRNA vaccine is a sequence for a long chain of amino acids. This tells your immunity system what antibody to make when you body gets infected with SARS CoV2 virus. The vaccine does not speed up your immune response to a foreign invader. For example if you don't have enough zinc in your system. (Why do you think Trump's doctors gave him Zinc, Vitamin D3 the Remdisivor and the Regeneron antibodies). How fast or slow your immunity system responds to a forign invader (antigen) has nothing to do with the mRNA vaccine. Once your immunity system triggers it will have the instuctions to make the antibody to neutralize SARS CoV2 virus. The triggering of your immunity system will vary from individual to individual. The mRNA vaccine works if it prevents you from dying, period. It can't prevent you from getting infected or getting sick with CoVid. You won't get sick if your immunity system triggers right away to a foreign invader.

'a' does have some valid medical points about vaccines.

The term 'works' - should be abandoned - it has no real relevance in vaccine science. .

Vaccines Introduce the human immune system to an antigen - which - if encountered (infection) causes a much quicker and more robust immune response in most patients .

Vaccines generally do not prevent infection - but the sensitized immune system reacts upon encounter - and allows a less severe clinical course and dramatically less mortality in most patient groups.



'a' - You do realize Operation warp speed was a Trump administration achievement - and fiden was vaccinated before he was inaugurated.

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Old 08-14-2021, 12:03 PM   #96
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Almost everybody's been exposed by this point. Stop panicking.
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Old 08-14-2021, 12:09 PM   #97
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Almost everybody's been exposed by this point. Stop panicking.
But if there's no panic how will the people be stampeded off the cliff?
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Old 08-15-2021, 03:03 AM   #98
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'a' does have some valid medical points about vaccines.


Vaccines Introduce the human immune system to an antigen - which - if encountered (infection) causes a much quicker and more robust immune response in most patients .

Vaccines generally do not prevent infection - but the sensitized immune system reacts upon encounter - and allows a less severe clinical course and dramatically less mortality in most patient groups.



'a' - You do realize Operation warp speed was a Trump administration achievement - and fiden was vaccinated before he was inaugurated.

Facts

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1. Pretty good for someone who you think is not a doctor.

2. Your statement traditional vaccines introduce the human immune system to an antigen. I agree with you. However, the mRNA vaccine is not a traditional vaccine. With a traditional vaccine like the one for measles, the virus was grown and its DNA was removed to make it inactive, before it goes into your arm.

3. mRNA vaccines are not live viruses. Just instructions for a chain of amino acids to make a particular antibody.

4. Operation WARP speed did happen under Trump. I have acknowledged that Trump purchased the vaccines before the results of the clinical trials were announced. Operation Warp speed does not deserve any credit for the Research and Development of the mRNA vaccine platform. A stem cell biologist from Moderna started working on mRNA technology back in 2010 when Moderna was formed. Bambino was mistaken the government did not fund Moderna. Moderna received only two grants from the government, one in 2013 and the other in 2020. The R & D on mRNA was completed before Operation Warp speed even started. Facts

5. You did not distrub up my day professor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderna
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Old 08-15-2021, 09:24 AM   #99
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Not bad for someone who is not a physician.

But pretends to be
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Old 08-15-2021, 11:36 AM   #100
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But pretends to be
Did I write a prescription for someone on ECCIE.NET? I don't think so.

Like you wrote valid points were made about the medical information that was given.

You did post this in post #95 right?

'a' does have some valid medical points about vaccines.
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Old 08-15-2021, 01:35 PM   #101
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Bambino was mistaken the government did not fund Moderna.
Dolly Parton did.. Partially.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carliep...n-helped-fund/

Her effort wasn't around-the-clock, but I did hear she was working from 9-5..
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Old 08-15-2021, 07:14 PM   #102
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Dolly Parton did.. Partially.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/carliep...n-helped-fund/

Her effort wasn't around-the-clock, but I did hear she was working from 9-5..
Tran, yes she made a donation of $1,000,000.00. She made the donation in the year 2020. The R&D for the m-RNA vaccine platform had been completed by then. If anything her donation went for distribution. Your article is dated March 2021.

From your link:

TOPLINE Country music star Dolly Parton got a taste of her own medicine Tuesday when she received the first dose of the Moderna coronavirus vaccine, which was researched and developed partially with funding from a $1 million donation she made last year.
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Old 08-15-2021, 07:59 PM   #103
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I think I've got it all figured out now. Thanks to all. Probably won't take the medicine they are giving out.
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Old 08-16-2021, 08:28 AM   #104
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A shot a week for life LOL you all should read the truth about Covid 19
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Old 08-16-2021, 10:19 PM   #105
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been reading some people are getting additional shots any way after taking the first two shots. don't know about J&J tho as its a one shot deal.
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