6th post for newbie. Getting mixed signals.

[ashamed]

WOW! Where to start. Chica my friend you should have let well enough alone and this thread closed. Lets see if I get posted or not after I say my peace.

I'm 68 years old and been around the block more than once. I'm a premium member of this site and others out there.

First lets address just what goes on in the hobby world:

1. your email address can be traced right to the computer you use (home or work)

2. your cell number can be...are you using a throw away phone?

3. Your license plate can be....are you driving a rental?

4. that donation you give has your finger prints all over it...you using gloves?

5. did you know some providers record you for safety reason? hidden cameras

6. do you have security set up like the federal government and encryted? NO!!

Now lets address THE NEWBIE....

First off asking your questions in the appropiate newbie forum before you ever contact a provider. To me reading your posts your one stupid MF. In my opinion your a low life snake in the grass and lots of good people are going to get bit be you. Your last post was a threat to a member of this board and should be treated as such. I can copy, paste and say anything from anyone..is it true? hell no but does start shit a rolling doesnt it....lol

Next lets addresss MS B.S. provider in question....

Hello sweetie. I'm not here to defend you in any way shape or form. You made a mistake stating how you verify clients to this new asshole and board. That you will have to live with.
But on the other hand....lets see a show of hands from providers who have used my computer for screening? YES thats correct I am the person in question.......I dont see any hands...why you scared? Well I can assure you I will never use you as a provider again. Your to quick to hang one of your own. How about I register as a newbie and drop a BOMB on your parade? I can do it every day of the week. Defend that!!!!

Now to my fellow hobbiest....

Shame on you...You dont know this guy at all...How about I drop a BOMB on your Parade also. You seem to jump n board at the drop of a hat. Try walking away and gettting a fucking life. We are to protect our own not eat them...

Hell lets get a rope and hang them all!!!!

Shame on you all....What goes around comes around.....remember that....Im going back to my corner and watching now...

[London Rayne]

Originally Posted by Wicked Milf

Whoever she is, she definitely doesn't value discretion by giving your info to her so called *friend* the cop. As you don't really know if he's a cop nor who else she *might of given your info to, or what she might of used it for. Please do let the men know who she is so they can avoid their data getting into her possession.


I've said it before and I'll reiterate it. Providers can't tell from his *personal or work info* how he treats a lady when locked Behind closed doors. Contacting references for feedback, is how ladies know how a guy behaves etc, while BCD.

So newbies, STOP giving the ladies your personal data!!

If they want to see new guys w/o references. Then that's their choice.
BUT asking for their SS #, work info, DL data is bullshit.
That's far too much info to be handing over to anyone in this adult hobby.


FYI- I'm not the *wicked, hot & sexy* woman he's speaking of. As I refuse to accept anyone's personal info!

I don't think asking for additional info is in any way "stupid" or
"BS" as you put it...I guess it depends on the gal you're trusting with your info. I don't see the logic in checking an ID, but I won't tell guys not to see a woman who does.

A reference is not going to reveal to me if a guy I am meeting locally could be my freaking boss or a professor will it? I don't think so. It also won't tell me if that guy might have changed his handle, saw 2 providers, then came back to me to set me up for personal reasons. I have too many things going for me in RL, to risk it for a few bucks. If a guy lives in my town, I want to know who I am dealing with.

I don't cross state lines to fly to see someone unless I know who they are period. We all have different things that make us feel secure, and for some references are a fkin joke! I know guys who have 10 refs and still try bbfs, rip people off, and just come back as someone else. I don't trust someone else in the business whom I DON'T KNOW to keep me safe, and I never will. Too many providers have proven to be less than safe or discreet.

As for the OP...TexasJohn and Pyramider speak the truth. You aired your issues and got some advice...some maybe you didn't like. Oh well..it's a hooker board, and you have to take the good with the bad.

[Guest092812-04]

DAMN!!!! Thats about all I can say on any of this.. Wonder how long it will go??
Not to change the subject, Let's all go to our "Happy Place"..

Just Sayin

[London Rayne]

I think all the parties involved are for lack of a better word...fkin hilarious! The OP sounds like a provider with the yelling and ranting, and the other girl is just well...clueless? You can't make this crap up lol!

[Still Looking]

Originally Posted by ashamed

WOW! Where to start. Chica my friend you should have let well enough alone and this thread closed. Lets see if I get posted or not after I say my peace.

I'm 68 years old and been around the block more than once. I'm a premium member of this site and others out there.

First lets address just what goes on in the hobby world:

1. your email address can be traced right to the computer you use (home or work)

2. your cell number can be...are you using a throw away phone?

3. Your license plate can be....are you driving a rental?

4. that donation you give has your finger prints all over it...you using gloves?

5. did you know some providers record you for safety reason? hidden cameras

6. do you have security set up like the federal government and encryted? NO!!

Now lets address THE NEWBIE....

First off asking your questions in the appropiate newbie forum before you ever contact a provider. To me reading your posts your one stupid MF. In my opinion your a low life snake in the grass and lots of good people are going to get bit be you. Your last post was a threat to a member of this board and should be treated as such. I can copy, paste and say anything from anyone..is it true? hell no but does start shit a rolling doesnt it....lol

Next lets addresss MS B.S. provider in question....

Hello sweetie. I'm not here to defend you in any way shape or form. You made a mistake stating how you verify clients to this new asshole and board. That you will have to live with.
But on the other hand....lets see a show of hands from providers who have used my computer for screening? YES thats correct I am the person in question.......I dont see any hands...why you scared? Well I can assure you I will never use you as a provider again. Your to quick to hang one of your own. How about I register as a newbie and drop a BOMB on your parade? I can do it every day of the week. Defend that!!!!

Now to my fellow hobbiest....

Shame on you...You dont know this guy at all...How about I drop a BOMB on your Parade also. You seem to jump n board at the drop of a hat. Try walking away and gettting a fucking life. We are to protect our own not eat them...

Hell lets get a rope and hang them all!!!!

Shame on you all....What goes around comes around.....remember that....Im going back to my corner and watching now...

I haven't heard about this many bombs being dropped since I was at a national anthem rehearsal in high school! LOL

[simpleton]

Originally Posted by Louigi

Good grief - all kinds of people in business see my ID and some make copies of it - as long as they don't have my SS# what can theY do with it?

And don't come back with the answer "lots of things." Be specific.

Do you really want to be explaining how a hooktard or pimp or the friend of a hooktard got your id number? Do you want some strange chick showing up at your house or employment? Do you not see the shit storm that could come from this? And to compare it to other people in business is wrong. Those are legal businesses that generally have building with a sign out front.

[Mature Companion]

I didn't say it was stupid or BS to ask for additional info. I stated it was Bull shit for a provider to ask for personal info from a gent as his personal data cannot and will not tell her HOW he behaves when locked behind a door with her. ONLY feedback from references can give said input.
I stand by my opinion. Though your entitled to yours.

The issue with BobbySims, giving up the OP's info to a hobbyist (one whom she claims is from the *wrong side of the tracks*) proves how fucked up it is. Per his post http://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p=...5&postcount=76
Because now that hobbyist who's in possession of the OP's info. Has registered a NEW handle (today) yet claiming he's a PA member. His overall attitude about the ordeal, is of great concern.

Originally Posted by London Rayne

I don't think asking for additional info is in any way "stupid" or
"BS" as you put it...I guess it depends on the gal you're trusting with your info. I don't see the logic in checking an ID, but I won't tell guys not to see a woman who does.

A reference is not going to reveal to me if a guy I am meeting locally could be my freaking boss or a professor will it? I don't think so. It also won't tell me if that guy might have changed his handle, saw 2 providers, then came back to me to set me up for personal reasons. I have too many things going for me in RL, to risk it for a few bucks. If a guy lives in my town, I want to know who I am dealing with.

I don't cross state lines to fly to see someone unless I know who they are period. We all have different things that make us feel secure, and for some references are a fkin joke! I know guys who have 10 refs and still try bbfs, rip people off, and just come back as someone else. I don't trust someone else in the business whom I DON'T KNOW to keep me safe, and I never will. Too many providers have proven to be less than safe or discreet.

As for the OP...TexasJohn and Pyramider speak the truth. You aired your issues and got some advice...some maybe you didn't like. Oh well..it's a hooker board, and you have to take the good with the bad.

[Chica Chaser]

Originally Posted by ashamed

WOW! Where to start. Chica my friend you should have let well enough alone and this thread closed. Lets see if I get posted or not after I say my peace....

Appreciate your sentiments, everyone is welcome to express their opinion. When you would like to come back and post this same message under your regular handle I'll take you seriously and we can have a conversation. Not the one your created simply to post this message. Yes, I have already done my backroom checks.

[London Rayne]

Originally Posted by Wicked Milf

I didn't say it was stupid or BS to ask for additional info. I stated it was Bull shit for a provider to ask for personal info from a gent as his personal data cannot and will not tell her HOW he behaves when locked behind a door with her. ONLY feedback from references can give said input.
I stand by my opinion. Though your entitled to yours.

The issue with BobbySims, giving up the OP's info to a hobbyist (one whom she claims is from the *wrong side of the tracks*) proves how fucked up it is. Per his post http://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p=...5&postcount=76
Because now that hobbyist who's in possession of the OP's info. Has registered a NEW handle (today) yet claiming he's a PA member. His overall attitude about the ordeal, is of great concern.

I agree that how she handled it was beyond retarded, and perhaps HIS research should have told him not to give that info. to HER. Until now, her showcase stated she was freaking 18 NOT 38, because there was a post dogging her out. That right there should have raised a flag for any guy....it could have been a typo, but it was certainly there.

I also agree that only a ref can tell you how a guy behaves IF he screwed up with her lol...does not protect you as much as real info. does. You can't get much info. from a handle.

How many times have you seen a guy that was said to be ok, just to find out he was not? Yea. He tried the same bs with me! So much for refs being accurate or even reliable. No woman can speak for a guy's actions all around...only how he acted with HER. Guys change per person it seems.

Had I had his real info. I could have done much more than what was done for the things he attempted, and some he actually got away with involving other women who travel to the area.

Edited to not cause DRAMA lol!

[London Rayne]

Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

Appreciate your sentiments, everyone is welcome to express their opinion. When you would like to come back and post this same message under your regular handle I'll take you seriously and we can have a conversation. Not the one your created simply to post this message. Yes, I have already done my backroom checks.

Aren't multiple handles grounds for banning at least one?

[Sweet N Little]

Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

Appreciate your sentiments, everyone is welcome to express their opinion. When you would like to come back and post this same message under your regular handle I'll take you seriously and we can have a conversation. Not the one your created simply to post this message. Yes, I have already done my backroom checks.

oh the power to call one out

[London Rayne]

Originally Posted by simpleton

Do you really want to be explaining how a hooktard or pimp or the friend of a hooktard got your id number? Do you want some strange chick showing up at your house or employment? Do you not see the shit storm that could come from this? And to compare it to other people in business is wrong. Those are legal businesses that generally have building with a sign out front.

If you don't trust her with your info. why would you put your d(ck in her? Just sayin. I doubt she has a copy machine or is locking that crap in her memory lol. Most just glance at the name from what I have gathered.

[Guest032716]

Originally Posted by simpleton

Do you really want to be explaining how a hooktard or pimp or the friend of a hooktard got your id number? Do you want some strange chick showing up at your house or employment? Do you not see the shit storm that could come from this? And to compare it to other people in business is wrong. Those are legal businesses that generally have building with a sign out front.

Dude - I don't mess with BP hooktards! No legit provider is going to pull that shit and what if they did? I would tell them to fuck off, I have no idea who you are.

If you're that paranoid try this. A hooker video tapes you, her pimp follows you home or to work, getting your info is now a breeze and blackmails you. Damn good reason to only deal with legit providers - ya think?

Believe me, getting your info is a breeze - coming up with something to make you sweet that's another!

[Guest032716]

Damn, are we off topic or what?

[sixxbach]

Originally Posted by Wicked Milf

I didn't say it was stupid or BS to ask for additional info. I stated it was Bull shit for a provider to ask for personal info from a gent as his personal data cannot and will not tell her HOW he behaves when locked behind a door with her. ONLY feedback from references can give said input.

So if all you care about are feedback from references, why don't you see me? You know I am a legit hobbyist. I have seen plenty of ECCIE providers and still get PM's to see others. I will treat you good behind closed doors. Seems to me like you pick and choose....

sixx