Why I carry a firearm in Church.

[Devo]

Oh, and one last thought, yall use Autralia as an example, the took in ALL THE EVIL rifles and destroyed every last one, didn't they?

Nope, not even close, and in fact, since Australia passed their great and effective law, there are now FOUR TIMES AS MANY firearms IN Australia.

Take all the evil looking rifles, and people will just buy more guns to compensate with even MORE GUNS.

I call that a failure, I call any attempt in the USA to do the same would bring about the Civil war, one side wishes would happen, but is far less prepared for, than the side that doesn't want to see it start, but is willing to end it.

Have a wonderful evening.

[Devo]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

The amount of FUD in this thread is staggering. Simply to push a transphobic and homophobic narrative. Which is itself used to justify a right wing gun nut narrative. Simply astounding.

Fear, uncertainty, and doubt (FUD) is a manipulative propaganda tactic used in technology sales, marketing, public relations, politics, polling, and cults. FUD is generally a strategy to influence perception by disseminating negative and dubious or false information and is a manifestation of the appeal to fear.

Actually its a gun word too, as in FUDD, IE, Elmer Fudd, and the gun owners who think having a double barreled shotgun is all you need to own, we make fun of them.

The amount of FUDDS like you in this thread are why it exists.

Nobody is BLAMING people for their actions, just because they are Trans, you are assuming incorrectly that we are, we are saying, IF TRANS PEOPLE are in fact mentally ill, as gender dysmorphia IS, but is now IGNORED because its PC, start looking at the TRUTH behind what makes them do what they do.

Its not because they wanna cut their dickandballs off, or get an addadicktome which I believe is a mental illness in itself, but perhaps the existing mental illness GD, is coupled wih hormones, puberty blockers, and usually some form of depressive or anxiety meds, because they are mentally overwhelmed to begin with, and full of shit that now makes them even more sick.

You have separate their(trans) perceived untouchable status because Trans people could never be mentally ill, and we can't talk about it, which is your side, that then jumps to racism, sexism, homoism, and other ad hominem attacks again and again and again after someone says, "We may have a problem here".

Which, you just did again.

[Devo]

IF you have not read the most recent shooters manifesto, I seriously suggest you do.

Its enlightening, frightening, and shows how severe the level of mental illness this last shooter had, and I'm glad it was leaked and made public, because after you read it, you will understand WHY they never want to make the shooters manifesto public.

But BECAUSE they don't want you to KNOW how FUCKING SICK these people are.

They don't want the public to be aware of how dangerous some people are, because.............

We'd all go out and buy MORE GUNS.

[tommy156]

And we'll continue to be the dumbest country on earth re. guns.

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by Devo

IF you have not read the most recent shooters manifesto, I seriously suggest you do.

Its enlightening, frightening, and shows how severe the level of mental illness this last shooter had, and I'm glad it was leaked and made public, because after you read it, you will understand WHY they never want to make the shooters manifesto public.

But BECAUSE they don't want you to KNOW how FUCKING SICK these people are.

They don't want the public to be aware of how dangerous some people are, because.............

We'd all go out and buy MORE GUNS.

... Too right, mate --- remember the other recent
school shooting? ... The police HID that Trans shooter's
manifesto... Didn't want the true motives to be seen.

#### Salty

[mtnitlion]

I own 14 rifles and shotguns, three handguns and have a carry permit for last 30 years.
I totally agree there needs to be further gun legislation similar to a car and driving.
You can buy any car but cannot drive on the road unless you pass a written and performance exam to prove you are capable.
Guns should be the same. Buy one to protect your home, fine just never take it off your property. If you want to carry for protection while away from home you need to take a written and performance exam.
Too many “unqualified” people can purchase just about any firearm regardless of their knowledge of the gun. I learned from father, uncles , grandfather and cousins. Kids today learn from television, X box and other games.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by mtnitlion

I own 14 rifles and shotguns, three handguns and have a carry permit for last 30 years.
I totally agree there needs to be further gun legislation similar to a car and driving.
You can buy any car but cannot drive on the road unless you pass a written and performance exam to prove you are capable.
Guns should be the same. Buy one to protect your home, fine just never take it off your property. If you want to carry for protection while away from home you need to take a written and performance exam.
Too many “unqualified” people can purchase just about any firearm regardless of their knowledge of the gun. I learned from father, uncles , grandfather and cousins. Kids today learn from television, X box and other games.

This makes far too much sense for it to work here in the United States of Dumbfuckistan.

[Devo]

Originally Posted by mtnitlion

I own 14 rifles and shotguns, three handguns and have a carry permit for last 30 years.
I totally agree there needs to be further gun legislation similar to a car and driving.
You can buy any car but cannot drive on the road unless you pass a written and performance exam to prove you are capable.
Guns should be the same. Buy one to protect your home, fine just never take it off your property. If you want to carry for protection while away from home you need to take a written and performance exam.
Too many “unqualified” people can purchase just about any firearm regardless of their knowledge of the gun. I learned from father, uncles , grandfather and cousins. Kids today learn from television, X box and other games.

I could say the same thing about freedom of speech, I don't think anyone should be able to wish death towards our president, but I see it multiple times a day in this forum.

In fact, I consider that a Red Flag for gun ownership.

And, I guess that right was precious, they made the 2nd Amendment to protect that right to speech, and all the others, so, people like you can't stop us from protecting ourselves from your attempt to limit our rights.

This wasn't just the Founding Fathers, but, it was also the same in the Magna Carta.

By the time of the 1225 reissue, the Magna Carta had become more than a sober statement of the common law; it was a symbol in the battle against oppression. It had been read so many times in shire courts throughout the land that memorable phrases would be invoked in later documents, and whenever liberty seemed in danger, men spoke of the charter as their defense. The influence of the Magna Carta in England—and, later, in its colonies—had come not from the detailed expression of the feudal relationship between lord and subject but from the more-general clauses in which every generation could see its own protection. In England the Petition of Right in 1628 and the Habeas Corpus Act of 1679 looked directly back to clause 39 of the 1215 charter, which read:

No free man shall be arrested or imprisoned or disseised or outlawed or exiled or in any way victimised, neither will we attack him or send anyone to attack him, except by the lawful judgment of his peers or by the law of the land.

Indeed, this passage would serve as the foundational expression of the concept of due process in Anglo-American jurisprudence. In the 17th century, when England’s North American colonies were shaping their own fundamental laws, the words of the Magna Carta were worked into them. The basic rights embodied in the Constitution of the United States of America (1789) and the Bill of Rights (1791) echo the charter, and the Fourteenth Amendment (1868) can trace its ancestry to the Magna Carta as well.


Just to fill you in if you have forgotten.

Further the recent Heller decision speaks fully against your claim that we should only be allowed to have our weapons at home, because we have a RIGHT to be armed for self defense, against people like you, and the bad guys.

And I say YOU, because you are attempting to limit my god given rights, and that makes you an oppressor.

No different from the Nazi lady at the polls in 2020 who told me I wasn't allowed to cast my vote at the polls because I didn't have a FUCKING COVID mask on.

And I'll repeat what I told her, "Who the hell are you to decide what I can do under the Constitution of this United States. You better think goddamn hard before you tell me I can't' do what I am legally allowed to do, and you better be prepared for the consequences if you make any further attempt to limit my rights."

Voting, I take that shit seriously, as do I take my right to be armed when and where I wish to go.

[Devo]

Originally Posted by tommy156

This makes far too much sense for it to work here in the United States of Dumbfuckistan.

You can always leave if its that bad.

I'd suggest Iran, North Korea, or China for starters, go talk about killing their state leaders and see how far the First Amendment rights take you there.

[tommy156]

I've never talked about killing anyone anywhere. So, I have no idea what you're babbling about.

[txdot-guy]

[Charley3]

Originally Posted by tommy156

I've never talked about killing anyone anywhere. So, I have no idea what you're babbling about.

He doesn’t either. Does anyone actually read all his babble.
And he’s not being very “cordial” is he?
Only scared little men feel the need to collect an arsenal of military grade weapons and whine on a hooker board about mean words.
Now he’s mocking people about “mean” guns.
If his type wasn’t responsible for the murders of men, women and children it would be laughable.

[Devo]

Originally Posted by Charley3

He doesn’t either. Does anyone actually read all his babble.
And he’s not being very “cordial” is he?
Only scared little men feel the need to collect an arsenal of military grade weapons and whine on a hooker board about mean words.
Now he’s mocking people about “mean” guns.
If his type wasn’t responsible for the murders of men, women and children it would be laughable.

You wanna arm wrestle?

Scared little man, yea right, you really need to make a dick joke too.

Typical liberal response, when you run out of facts, start personal attacks.

It's people like me who stop attacks, not start them.

I dont understand the mindset of people unwilling to defend themselves, I'm not attacking you for it, as you do to me, it's your choice, but give me the same choice to do as I wish.

Im surprised you are confused, have you forgotten the thread title?

[Devo]

Oh, define military grade, and assault weapon, if you can, please be specific.

[Dr-epg]

Gentlemen let’s not make this conversation personal