Nightmare or Miscommunication with Azebella Amor - Your inputs Please.

[nascobar21]

Shit

[Sarunga]

Originally Posted by notanewbie

Hire WTF to get your money back....he will bug her so much she may give you a tip.

No surprises here...


Well, if she is a decent human being, as she has been projecting herself on this board, this is a good chance to prove that to all of us.

[Seeskylar]

I will speak for myself but honestly, I can understand you were trying to make things right but when you do everything she wanted to make her happy but the deposit should be returned if he has proof of time through text to say she was the reason for not making it happen, then I feel its only fair to give him back the rate agreed for session amount cause he sent the whole donation instead of just deposit. Now to be honest the meet must not be meant to happen. If it doesn't go with the flow then I will cancel appt cause it probably won't be enjoyable for either party.... just saying

Originally Posted by Damionix

I have debated on this long and hard. Especially knowing that I am about to nt a complaint about a very Popular ( I gather) Provider. Debating myself comes from the way I have seen other gents get treated on here when they do report their sides of the story.

I hardly ever post on here, but I do follow the trends and boards. I am more of a kisser and no teller type, but I do respect the opinions of everyone. I had initially wanted to just cut my losses, delete my account, and get out of the hobby. But then a nice Mod asked me to post my side of the story. I wish she was not banned so she could come and maybe finally give her side of the story I am about to tell. Because, keep in mind, understanding what happened is all I seek. With that being said, I begin.


I do confess that I have tried to see her twice in the past before but ended up cancelling due to the very busy nature of my job, which requires I be on call most times. This time I did give her a heads up and apologized and promised to make it up to her. The second time I cancelled because of I had very sad news about my son's health that day. He had been diagnosed with a Genetic disease that will affect him the rest of his life, and possibly lead to death. I could not make it to go hump away after getting such bad news. And I do admit I was in the wrong for not responding to her messages to find out about the meetings. At such times, the hobby is the last thing on your mind.

After finally coming off months of depression and learning to live with this new reality, I felt I had to make it up to her and owed her an explanation as I deem everyone should be treated with respect, especially their time. But alas, she had been banned. So I reached out to her on her GMail address posted on these boards.

I reached out to her telling her I wish to keep my promise and to explain why I went silent on the last attempt to see her. She was sympathetic, but insisted that she could not risk seeing me again as I had cancelled twice already. That if I were to see her, I had to put down some deposit via Paypal. A term I considered fair enough, as my goal was to prove that I was no time waster. At this point she does respond to my emails as soon as she gets them.

So yesterday Morning, I sent her the Payment for 1 hour session she advertises on ECCIE. And she thanked me for it and sent me her number in the email alongside a screenshot of her P411 page showing her hour session was more on there. I had no objections as this was supposed to be a deposit with the rest to come, and the extra I promised for the last sessions to be paid after meeting her.

The next part of this tale is where things got bizarre. I promptly contacted her via her mobile number to find out about meeting time and address. No response to call or text. After an hour I reached out to her again via email and told her to contact me on either of my Cell numbers, Work (included as signature in the email correspondences )and Personal ( from which I sent a text and which I provided at the beginning of the email for her to track our chat history). After another hour of waiting, she sends me an email and says to please contact her by Text as it would be faster. I then replied to the email informing her that I just did, twice by texting her. At this point, still not response on my cell phone. So I texted her again asking if a 4pm meeting was possible, and the response to that was "Hello this is Azebella". To which I said hello, will 4pm be ideal and where would you love to meet? I get total silence. Then a response later "informing me that she is still waiting on a response from me to find out if we are still meeting".I figured she must not be getting my messages or something. So I reached out to her from my Work cell phone ( which is in my signature). I told her to please contact me on my work cell phone if she is experiencing delays from my other phone. I send a text to and from both my numbers to test delays and they came through cleanly. But each time she sent me a text, she kept asking me to please let her know if we are still meeting. My conclusion was that there was a severe case of missing messages or messages not going through.

I then switched to calling her from my my cell phones, and got voicemail. So I went back to emailing her informing her that she seems to not be getting my messages, as I might not be getting hers as well. She responded to the email stating that I am calling her from too many numbers, texting her from too many numbers, and sending too many emails. However, all my emails were chronological. I waited for a response each time. I apologized to her and again informed her that there is a breakdown of communication somewhere as we must be missing messages. And that I have only contacted her from 2 numbers of which she knows. She then asked for my work phone number, so she could call me. I agreed, and sent her a third number which is my office desk number. At this point 4 om came and went and so as 5pm and I did not hear back. So I emailed her informing her that maybe we should try another day as I am deflated from trying to ask her to please call me directly on any of my numbers and abandon text messages as that is where out conversation seems to break down.

By 6pm I sent her a refund request on 60% of the money I paid her and asked her to keep 40% for her troubles while we try another time. She took this as an insult and all of a sudden she could now get all my text messages. She proceeded to wash me down and tell me how I have messed up her day, requesting for a meet during traffic hours, and how she wished she never gave me another chance. I informed her that I am not upset and apologize if she feels I have ruined her day. I took screen shots of the bizarre text message chain between us and emailed to her so she could see proof that I was indeed responding to her and sending her request for time and location. Then I started to wonder, if she says I am pretending of not getting her messages on cell about time and location, how come she knows about 4pm request and how come once I ask for a refund she now gets all my messages and misses none. In anger she said she will give me back 100% of my money. I still proceeded to explain to her that there seems to have been a serious breakdown in communication, that all I wanted was to make sure she did not feel like I wasted her time. But it was too late, she had lost it and at this point I was labeled as a crazy person, a time waster, and game runner.

I have over the years seen some very reputable and lovely ladies on here and they will inform on my credibility, punctuality, and respect. I never haggle, and always make up if I cancel. Always. Either by paying more or cutting session short but paying for full session.

She declined my request for a refund via paypal, and when I questioned why, she informed me that I had the nerve to even ask for it. That I have wasted her time enough and she was planning to refund my full amount and report me. I am still waiting for any refund. I still have received none.

Azebella, if you do read this, please know that I intended no harm and still insist as the screen shots of the text messages will prove, and email chain will show, I did everything in my power to see you. How did I come off as being these labels you put on me?

I have read some of her posts over time and believe she is indeed a lovely and nice person. However, the person in the reviews and the one I was communicating with yesterday all seem to be different people. I do understand the frustration of being made to feel like you are having your time wasted. But despite my plea with her to go back and look at the screenshots and follow the email thread to see where we seems to be missing messages, it all failed.

In conclusion, I have submitted all proof, text, email to the mods, and am now putting my case in the hands of the forum to please help me understand if I am in the wrong. I am Man enough to admit if I am wrong and will take out a thread to apologize to her if it is so. But again, Gents, ladies, and all, what are your inputs.

Apologies again for the LONG LONG Read. Wish I could make it shorter.

[Seeskylar]

Lmfao must say very amused on this lmfao 2 thumps UP DM

Originally Posted by Dorthy_Monroe

you should be comfortable hearing it since your avatar is a outing whore

[Damionix]

Originally Posted by K. Nicole

Welp as we all know Azebella cannot respond for the moment so I will add to this on her behalf:

You conveniently left out the part where you contacted her over FIFTY times in two hours and kept negotiating her rate. I was on the phone with her while you kept calling over and over and over from several different phone numbers. This was on top of text after text as well as constant emails.

In my opinion, you were already on thin ice after cancelling on her twice without notice. One of these times she was already in the room which she paid for. You sent her an obscene amount of requests for that session which she took time to prepare for but you never showed. She wasted her time and spent her money that day and she let it go, correct? She didn't badger you with phone calls or emails, she didn't put you on any blacklists or post any alerts.

Despite all of this, she still agreed to meet with you and provided her phone number at 1p. She texted you letting you know it was her and this is when it all went downhill. You continuously called her from several different phone numbers as soon she provided hers. What were you calling her for? Because you wanted to chat prior to the session? You already had your time set and were pending address, why keep contacting her? After dozens upon dozens of phone calls/emails she decided not to see you and agreed to give you a refund.

On to today, se woke up to ten emails from you asking her if she still wanted to meet you. No provider in her right mind would agree to meet you after everything that occurred! She replied at 9:59a and warned you she was going to make an alert if you continued contacting her and this is when you contacted the mods then posted your very own thread. You certainly made sure to beat her to it!

She did say "the nerve of you" requesting your money back after everything that occurred but still never said she wasn't giving you a refund. She declined keeping a portion of it as you had previously suggested and wrote in capital letters that she would be sending you all of your money back. Exactly where and when did she say she would not be refunding you?

Azebella has screenshots of her own that she is willing to share with whomever is interested.

K. Nicole, I take it you are a Friend of hers?
As you will see, I do not deny contacting her several times, never did. But from 2 numbers only which she has. And that was due to the fact that she kept responding late and when she did, it wasn't an answer to my text but as if she was starting a whole new conversation. My conclusion was that she must not be getting my messages. There is a difference. Had she replied to any of my messages, I would have left it at that. My attempt was to make her understand she could call me or text me on my second number if she was having problems with the other. The other number she asked for it, and I provided her my office number.

I NEVER, I repeat NEVER ONCE tried to negotiate her rate. I paid for an hour of her time as advertised on ECCIE. And it was supposed to be a "deposit", her terms, not mine. If you read my email response to her you will see I told her she can charge what she wants, and I don't mind. Please stick to the truth. This is not a fight that requires some winner.

I am not sure how she woke to 10 email from me. I only replied to her last email letting her know that Paypal had informed me that she cancelled my request. That was it. I haven't sent her a single email since. And definitely not today.Please let's be truthful. I state nothing here in exaggeration. That does not help.

I said she declined to send a refund and still has not sent the refund since. Even as I type now, she still has not. The screenshots were to show her that there seem to be a breakdown in communication somehow. Hello is 4pm Ok and where are we meeting? getting a reply of "???, I have been waiting". What would you make of that? Does that sound like we are having a coherent conversation?

I leave it at this.

[Damionix]

Originally Posted by johnniewalkerblack

Well, Dude, I hate to tell you, but, in this business...

We're No Angels

Strike One: You canceled on a provider
Strike Two: You canceled on same provider again
Strike Three: You sent a deposit before the supposed third session

...And if she is pimped, and you cancel, that's lost money for her and not good for the pimp, or her.

I don't know if she's pimped or not, I do know that I've seen her several times and hope to see her several more times.

This is a business. Yes, Life will get in the way. Happens on both sides.

My advice, don't cancel sessions, don't send deposits. Maybe you should be on Bissonet instead of ECCIE.

No Sympathy here, Dude. Price you Pay for Play. We're No Angels.

I guess feeling bad for cancellation is naive and shouldn't ever be part of the hobby. I will learn from this.

[GlobeSpotter]

Originally Posted by Damionix

K. Nicole, I take it you are a Friend of her
.....

Let's just say they're "coworkers"

[Damionix]

Originally Posted by K. Nicole

Why couldn't she answer the phone?
You feel like you HAVE to answer the phone bc he feels like talking? What's there to talk about? If we have a set time and location there is NOTHING to talk about prior to the session. If she doesn't want to answer the phone she doesn't have to. He's paying her for her time and nothing else. Perhaps because she was busy, in another call, in class, at work, in the crapper, all of the above. Who cares she is not obligated to answer. What were you calling for that was so urgent OP?

How can she post an alert if she's banned?
Eccie isn't the only place you can post alerts and it's the last place she'd do it banned or not.

Why wouldn't a provider see him after he deposited?
Would you see someone that called you almost 60 times just bc he deposited? I highly doubt that.

That is the point I am trying to make. If she sent me a message with time and location, I did not get it. And I told her that several times in the email responses and asked her several times to call me instead because I was not getting any of the messages she said she was sending. How hard is a 1 minute call? And each time she responded to my email she never said anything about my complaint that I am not getting the messages she is sending with time and location. And besides, what about the complaint that 4pm was traffic time? And I never got any message confirming that 4pm was agreed upon, nor did I get any that said Address was incoming. NOTHING was agreed upon from her end via text or email is what I am saying. How else can I explain this? The only time she acknowledged my 4pm time was when she sent an email furious that I had requested a refund via Payypal. Up until then there was nothing being said to the fact that I requested a 4pm meeting. Times should be ok for both parties, and if it was inconvenient for her, I asked her to pick a time that suited her, and I got no response to that either.

[Damionix]

Originally Posted by hornfreak

Paying for services not rendered = stealing...
OP..what the fuck were you thinking man....( right, you weren't...it happens ) Sometimes you just have to step back and think.,is going through all this back and forth emailing, texting, calling, fucken bullshit worth it..,NO, that pussy can not be worth all this bs you got yourself into...just my opinion...btw..this is Houston..Latinas are a dime a dozen!

I know. I was just eager to do right by her. I guess am stupid like that.
And these multiple calls to her phone, am still baffled. Calling her several times keeps popping up. I am confused, which numbers are you attributing to me? Did every call she got after I reached out to her become me?

[Damionix]

Originally Posted by GlobeSpotter

This is never comforting to hear.

The rule forbid us from sharing this info with others except the Mods. I have submitted all I have to the mods so they can be the judge of it all. She is welcome to submit hers too. And as I have earlier said, I am not going to shy away from apologizing if I am found to be in the wrong. Let the powers that be decide.

[Damionix]

Originally Posted by GlobeSpotter

.....

When I wrote the post, I did mention that the whole experience threw me off and just made me question the Hobbying life a little. I have never had this problem before meeting other ladies on here. This was a first, and a bad one at that. But I thought it would be unfair to write all this and disappear and not give her a chance to debate me on what went wrong. Hence my request to not delete my account anymore.

[GlobeSpotter]

Originally Posted by Seeskylar

Lmfao must say very amused on this lmfao 2 thumps UP DM

thumps up?

Yeah....show us those thumps. Both of them.

[jonfor4]

Ha, wish I saw this sooner. She did the EXACT same thing to me with all the "honey I need you to respond" BS too. I also canceled on her once in the past. This all sounds very familiar to my experience with her.

[Guest021217]

Originally Posted by GlobeSpotter

Well name the tricks.

Start with one.

Surely he's pissed off enough to support your claim.

Sorry That's One Road I Wish Not To Go On Because I Don't Want To Put Myself In Harms Way... Ask Her

[moonshiner]

Always comforting to see whores who need mouth pieces because they get kicked off the site.
I personally wouldn't see any of the ones who do that.
What's that saying?
"You are who you hang out with" or something to that effect?
Or "Lie down with dogs you're bound to come up with fleas."


Hey Kylie, a true friend would have replaced her avatar with her friends pic, and changed custom title to her phone number.
Azebella should fire you as her PR representative.