Guys/Gals... (Raw Dog)

[trekker]

Originally Posted by Arverni;1056187261... By the way ... I HATE condoms as much as any other guy. But ... it's the cost of doing business in this industry. After many years ... I found the [B

SAGAMI .002[/B] (you can get them on Amazon and 12 will cost you $17 so they ain't cheep) ... they are micro-thin, made of polyurethane so they are STRONG. The sensation is INCREDIBLE and they are completely transparent. You can tell it's on ... but it's not so "in your face" distracting. Since they are thin, I always ASK the provider if I can use them. If she says "no" ... then, well - her rules you know ... we'll use one of hers. However, I've never had a provider say "no" - or even think about it that much. I think these are pretty reliable. Only time I ever broke one was when putting it on. That's not a problem - just put on another (you haven't done anything yet so no worries).

How are those Sagamis as you're putting them on? I may want to try them. So far, Okamoto Crowns have been my favorite balance between sensitivity and ease of application. Never had one fail in any way, either. Never had any condom of any brand break when used with the proper, water based lube. Most of the other ultra thin condoms I've tried have a very tight ring that's hard to start. The "body" of the condom usually stretches comfortably once it's rolled down, though.

[Arverni]

Originally Posted by siberia

Getting educational,
Good reading.
Thxs Arverni

There is A LOT of good stuff out there if you research it. I did - because I was scared as shit of catching something too! Even though I'm "addicted" to danger - I always want to know the risks first.

I'm not a "tin-foil" guy. I don't believe in "conspiracy theories". I believe Oswald acted alone; believe we DID land on the moon; believe that it WAS Islmo-fascists that carried out 9-11 and NOT G.W. Bush ... etc. LOL

Well ... this is what I did ... I contacted a "retired" hooker I know and asked her about the risks. She did fairly high-volume when she worked ... I believe her "standard" was three men a day ... with four occasionally and ... one time, five.

She was not an "indie" - she worked for an escort agency and later created her own. She worked as an escort for her own agency with several other girls.

She was in the biz about 5 or 6 years?

And, in all that time - she never contracted anything. BUT - she ALWAYS insisted on "safe sex" and "condoms". Yes ... she did BBBJ's. I did not ask her if she did CIM ... CIM would seem to me to increase the viral load tremendously but again, the mouth is not the same enviro as the vagina is.

Her main point is that science often plays a role in "reinforcing" societal taboos. Hence - almost anything you do is said to give you a chance of contracting an STD.

Okay sure ... a chance. What does that look like? It looks like a lot of things but consider this one ...

I saw a study once of 100 couples, and each couple had one member who had HSV-2 (herpes). After a year of unprotected sex ... the infection rate for the uninfected partner was ... 4 percent. They refrained from having sex during an HSV-2 outbreak ... but there were no anti-viral drugs used and no condoms - and only 4 people got infected for a whole year of unprotected sex. Another study - with the anti-viral drugs brought down that infection rate to 2%. I believe both studies defined a year of unprotected sex as twice per week.

Now - I don't want to be one of those in the 4% ... because that would certainly be a drag.

Which is why I use condoms.

But ... let's be real here ... there is no need to FREAK OUT over STD's. We have the tools to manage that risk VERY effectively if we just use them. And - on those VANISHINGLY RARE occasions that they fail - we still have the statistics on our side.

[Longdongstrong]

Originally Posted by Arverni

There is A LOT of good stuff out there if you research it. I did - because I was scared as shit of catching something too! Even though I'm "addicted" to danger - I always want to know the risks first.

I'm not a "tin-foil" guy. I don't believe in "conspiracy theories". I believe Oswald acted alone; believe we DID land on the moon; believe that it WAS Islmo-fascists that carried out 9-11 and NOT G.W. Bush ... etc. LOL

Well ... this is what I did ... I contacted a "retired" hooker I know and asked her about the risks. She did fairly high-volume when she worked ... I believe her "standard" was three men a day ... with four occasionally and ... one time, five.

She was not an "indie" - she worked for an escort agency and later created her own. She worked as an escort for her own agency with several other girls.

She was in the biz about 5 or 6 years?

And, in all that time - she never contracted anything. BUT - she ALWAYS insisted on "safe sex" and "condoms". Yes ... she did BBBJ's. I did not ask her if she did CIM ... CIM would seem to me to increase the viral load tremendously but again, the mouth is not the same enviro as the vagina is.

Her main point is that science often plays a role in "reinforcing" societal taboos. Hence - almost anything you do is said to give you a chance of contracting an STD.

Okay sure ... a chance. What does that look like? It looks like a lot of things but consider this one ...

I saw a study once of 100 couples, and each couple had one member who had HSV-2 (herpes). After a year of unprotected sex ... the infection rate for the uninfected partner was ... 4 percent. They refrained from having sex during an HSV-2 outbreak ... but there were no anti-viral drugs used and no condoms - and only 4 people got infected for a whole year of unprotected sex. Another study - with the anti-viral drugs brought down that infection rate to 2%. I believe both studies defined a year of unprotected sex as twice per week.

Now - I don't want to be one of those in the 4% ... because that would certainly be a drag.

Which is why I use condoms.

But ... let's be real here ... there is no need to FREAK OUT over STD's. We have the tools to manage that risk VERY effectively if we just use them. And - on those VANISHINGLY RARE occasions that they fail - we still have the statistics on our side.

All true, valid points, but I can't go home and quote statistics to my wife with herp on my lip..... that shit won't fly lol

[Arverni]

Herp on your lip is easy shit. Just about everyone has that, don't they? I don't ... but it would seem everyone I know does! LOL