The nuclear option.

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by oldphone14

Sex work is the reason its not legal? No. That doesnt make any sense at all. There will always be sex work. Always. If you want to look into the reason of the "asian variant" of sex work, you look no further than immigration policy.

It's Busy body Moralists and Christian utopianists are the reason its not regulated and legal...and much safer for everyone.

That's the reason it has to be underground, these women choose this life, despite sob stories otherwise with their hand extended.

You think their living arrangements are bad, go to China. Think about how much per client their making here vs China. Do the math.

Wow! Just wow.

So sex slavery is better than where they came from? smdh
Immigration is why prostitution is illegal? smdh
Yes there will always be prostitution. But forced sex trafficking is wrong and a huge problem that gives the entire p4p argument a bad image.

[Treetop78759]

Just ignore oldphone14 WD. You can't argue with someone who has satan in his heart and hates those with faith.

[winn dixie]

Dallas amp/spa scene is having some trouble. Could Austin be next?

[oldphone14]

Originally Posted by Treetop78759

Just ignore oldphone14 WD. You can't argue with someone who has satan in his heart and hates those with faith.

Stop hurting sex workers, Tea Tree and Winn Dixie.

hurting people is not godly, like Jesus said, put away your stones....let he who is without sin, throw the first stone.

Stop Stoning consensual sex workers.

[oldphone14]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

Wow! Just wow.

So sex slavery is better than where they came from? smdh
Immigration is why prostitution is illegal? smdh
Yes there will always be prostitution. But forced sex trafficking is wrong and a huge problem that gives the entire p4p argument a bad image.

Reading comprehension: F-

Immigration policy is the cause of ASIAN variant of L1 services.

Its not why prostitution is illegal, that would be moralists and purists like you who dont care about hurting women sex workers to fill your pride and ego to go find the "SEX SLAVERY!" - which has been proven to be either non-existent, or very rare.


You were pissing and moaning about their "living conditions", Im just telling you, consensual sex workers in China have it much much worse...and get paid much much less.


"He who is without sin, throw the first stone" - do you know what that quote is referring to?

You are literally who Jesus was talking to.

Put away your stones. You are hurting women.

[winn dixie]

What? Goodness gracious

[winn dixie]

The revolt against trafficking is being seen everywhere! Its a great feeling to see! Coming to a city near you.
Many places being raided and shut down. All across the Nation. Iam ashamed I once was blind and thought only of self gratification.

[Yssup Rider]

So once y’all run all the Asians out of town, who are you gonna find to service you, WD?

Sorry man, but this crusade seems a tad insincere.

[winn dixie]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

So once y’all run all the Asians out of town, who are you gonna find to service you, WD?

Sorry man, but this crusade seems a tad insincere.

Asians are not the only race being trafficked! Im concerned about them all.

[Treetop78759]

Originally Posted by oldphone14

Stop hurting sex workers, Tea Tree and Winn Dixie.

hurting people is not godly, like Jesus said, put away your stones....let he who is without sin, throw the first stone.

Stop Stoning consensual sex workers.

Please stop protecting human traffickers. Their tentacles of evil are grasping the majority of AMPs.

[oldphone14]

Originally Posted by oldphone14

Not really. You can look and the fact is these AMPS put out help wanted in their language on various forums and the ladies answer it.

Not saying Human Trafficking doesnt exist, but its not a part of AMP culture. Not really.

That's more a forced prostitution thing, not participating in a public facing business like AMPS.

The press and police use this boogeyman to gin up public support, but the truth of the matter is these women interview and come willingly to work in AMPS....thats not a narrative people want to hear.

If you have a legitimate sex worker who does this by total choice, then you have to think of it as a de facto legit business...and then next thing you know, sex worker laws.

And, some people dont want that. They dont want to acknowledge it. Its the policy of an Ostrich, and this is why it is ridiculous that these AMPS are even targeted. On both sides of the transaction, everyone is of free will, and uncoerced.

It's called creating a "moral panic"

"Myths about Asian massage parlor sex trafficking are used by cops to justify elaborate investigations and sting operations. But the only ones such antics seem to be helping are the cops who get paid to get massages (and more), the police departments and city governments who get to seize cash, cars, and homes from massage parlor owners and workers (asset forfeiture is a near universal feature of these cases), and the prosecutors who get to play hero to the press about it all."

https://reason.com/2021/03/23/sex-tr...arlor-murders/

Reminder: Trafficking is often a moralizing myth.

[ketro]

The original question:

Originally Posted by Treetop78759

Let's say that human trafficking in some form only exists in 3 to 5 of those 50 AMPs.

If disrupting or harassing all of the other 45 to 47 AMPs in order to save only a few a legitimate argument?

There is process on the web that makes it very very easy to go after an AMP and they can't do anything.

I say yes. What say you?

This is a fucking terrible idea.

First, it takes a lot of resources to carry out a bust and subsequent legal action. By the above estimate, 90% of the effort will be spent on activities that will not result in the prosecution of supposed human traffickers. Worse yet, it diverts resources away from actual trafficking investigations and victim remediation.

Second, what is being described is police harassment on a scale reserved for fascist police states. The argument here seems to be claiming that police should have a broad mandate to just go barging around and doing whatever they want on a 10% chance that they might turn up something.

Finally, if we really want to do something about human trafficking, we should take a much deeper look into seasonal farm work. Sex work is just being singled out here because it carries a stigma of being illicit and sinful, while labor, forced or not, is treated as being inherently noble. Moreover, industrial agriculture, sweatshop textile factories, and undocumented domestic help generally redound to the benefit of the very rich and powerful, who have ways of keeping those benefits out of the public eye.

All of that is, of course, based on the idea that the OP is arguing in good faith, which they most clearly are not. Not saying sex trafficking doesn't happen in the United States, but the greater good would be better served by using law enforcement efficiently to disrupt the use of forced labor, slavery and trafficking more systemically than to go steamrolling around a bunch of small businesses hoping to catch someone on a money laundering, tax evasion, or visa fraud in the name of public morality.

[Opossum]

Originally Posted by winn dixie

The revolt against trafficking is being seen everywhere! Its a great feeling to see! Coming to a city near you.
Many places being raided and shut down. All across the Nation. Iam ashamed I once was blind and thought only of self gratification.

Repentance is good only if you did bad. Consensual sex isn't bad

[Chung Tran]

Guys, at what point are you going fo stop feeding the Trolls?