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Old 08-13-2019, 09:26 AM   #76
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Somewhat incorrect. I don't feel safer in a gun free zone. I don't think about it.
Hmm...You certainly seemed to allude that was something you certainly thought about while working. What's changed?

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Before I retired I worked in an office building that was a gun free zone. I felt much safer than had guns been allowed in the building.

As I said, I do not look for the reuqir


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At the time I worked in the gun free building, I never once thought about the policy. In recent years, after several discussions such as this one, I look back and fully agree with the policy instituted by management.

As I said, I do not care if the establishment I am entering is a gun free zone or not. I don't look for the required signs indicating whether or not it is. I feel equally safe under either circumstance.
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Old 08-13-2019, 09:28 AM   #77
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SR - True - but not all people with CHL's get additional training.

And I think only a very few with CHL's have the poor self-discipline to behave irresponsibly with deadly force.

Still - I have extra training also - and disagree strenuously with Constitutional Carry..
and I would not require any training of others i would not cheerfully participate in myself.

I could be reasonably criticized for making an "Assumption" that additional training for CHL holders makes the holder and Public safer - - No - i do not have that Proof.
Still - i do not see additional training requirements as an unreasonable burden on an individual who chooses to carry deadly force on One's Person.


Thank You.
I don't disagree with anything you are saying.
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Old 08-13-2019, 09:28 AM   #78
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Gnadfly - my Beta C mags have been very reliable.

Off brand copies do have a reputation for unreliability.
Thanks. Found another site that wasn't sold out. *fingers crossed* Does the 100 rounds affect the balance of the rifle significantly? What do you use to load the mag?

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And how do you know that the signs are being ignored? Would you put a job paying a 6-figure salary in jeopardy by carrying a concealed handgun into the building?

BTW, every year every company employee must sign a note stating that he or she has read the company's Code of Conduct, with it clearly stated in there that carrying any gun into any company building is a violation and the employee will be subject to termination.
In the 80s/early 90s Exxon security made a bunch of guys open their vehicles, search for guns and fired a few people. They had bought their rifles to work and were going to bug out to the leases for the opening day of deer season.

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Probably a scheduling issue, or that store hadn't made the decision to do so yet.
Walmart's and other stores that do this usually only use off duty LEO, as they want a real cop to also handle shoplifting, etc, not a rent a security guy.
Does anyone ever get arrested for shoplifting at Wally's? I haven't seen an incident in years. They used to have an alarm go off if you took something out of the store like condoms without paying for it (boop boop boop). Haven't heard it in a while.


As a side note I was working in N. Houston when an 8 point buck crashed through an office building and trapped a guy. Personally saw it from the building next door. Deer tried to get the miniblinds off his antlers but couldn't. Heard man was OK but deer bled out a mile down 45.
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Old 08-13-2019, 09:31 AM   #79
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Gnadfly - How much does 100 rounds weigh?

It is a very heavy magazine.
Loading is laborious.
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Old 08-13-2019, 09:36 AM   #80
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In the 80s/early 90s Exxon security made a bunch of guys open their vehicles, search for guns and fired a few people. They had bought their rifles to work and were going to bug out to the leases for the opening day of deer season.
As far as I know, my company policy of no guns applied only to the building, not the parking lot. And if someone felt unsafe walking from the building to their car, a call to security would get them an escort.

I think the Exxon policy went overboard but employees must know the rules and abide by them or suffer the consequences.
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As i understand Texas gun law - it is permissible to store a weapon out of sight in a locked car in a parking lot in most places. There may be exceptions I am not remembering - like a prison parking lot.


Companies can set what regulations they wish on private corporate property - with company discipline for violations - but not criminal charges.

The Exxon story sounds like some HR nut case went on a Crusade against weapons.
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As i understand Texas gun law - it is permissible to store a weapon out of sight in a locked car in a parking lot in most places. There may be exceptions I am not remembering - like a prison parking lot.


Companies can set what regulations they wish on private corporate property - with company discipline for violations - but not criminal charges.

The Exxon story sounds like some HR nut case went on a Crusade against weapons.
I agree.
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Old 08-15-2019, 07:10 AM   #83
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As i understand Texas gun law - it is permissible to store a weapon out of sight in a locked car in a parking lot in most places. There may be exceptions I am not remembering - like a prison parking lot.


Companies can set what regulations they wish on private corporate property - with company discipline for violations - but not criminal charges.

The Exxon story sounds like some HR nut case went on a Crusade against weapons.

Pretty sure the Texas law states it is "legal" to store a weapon out of sight in a locked car in a parking lot in most places. The company has no right to search your vehicle, except, as you state in certain situations, like military bases etc. In my understanding of Texas law, a 'car' is considered part of your 'home'.



The part I like about that law is that it can also be loaded and cocked, if you're into that. None of that gun controlled city/state stuff in place like NJ and Cali (read gun controlled - heavily), where they have ridiculous hoops and kooky constrictions.
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