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Old 06-09-2021, 03:33 PM   #811
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And when they find that there was significant fraud that affected the outcome of more than one election, the Biden supporters will never believe it. They will stomp their feet, hold their breath, and refuse to acknowledge the outcome.
I've been waiting since November 4th 2020 to hear, or see, real evidence of voter fraud that would change the election results.

No one has produced anything but theories.

To me. it appears that the "big lie" is that there was significant fraud.

Let me know if you EVER find anything substantial.
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Old 06-09-2021, 03:53 PM   #812
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That's the thing, we're all kinda of being kept in the dark about it.

You've got people who say they have evidence, but the public at large never gets to see it.

What we have to work with:
- Poll watchers getting kicked out or being prevented from doing their jobs
- Weird jumps in votes when counting was suspended
- Folks on the left who get extremely agitated when you even try to talk about
- The weird insistence on saying "widespread voter fraud" when talking about it.

If people would publish what they found in broad daylight, and then let people pick it apart in broad daylight, we would have an answer.

The only conspiracy to me is that it feels like the folks at the top are trying to purposely whip people into a frenzy.
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Old 06-09-2021, 04:21 PM   #813
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That's the thing, we're all kinda of being kept in the dark about it.

You've got people who say they have evidence, but the public at large never gets to see it.

What we have to work with:
- Poll watchers getting kicked out or being prevented from doing their jobs
- Weird jumps in votes when counting was suspended
- Folks on the left who get extremely agitated when you even try to talk about
- The weird insistence on saying "widespread voter fraud" when talking about it.

If people would publish what they found in broad daylight, and then let people pick it apart in broad daylight, we would have an answer.

The only conspiracy to me is that it feels like the folks at the top are trying to purposely whip people into a frenzy.
There’s far more to work with than what you posted. But I’m not going to repost all of the links. But be patient. It will be exposed in AZ. What happened in AZ, happened in the other swing states.,
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Old 06-09-2021, 04:47 PM   #814
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Glock, I don't often agree with you, but I do with you about openness. I'm not comfortable that the Arizona audit meets your criteria for "openness", but don't really care since the election is a fait accompli, and such audits have little pragmatic merit.

My only point of disagreement with your post is that I think it's the folks at the bottom who are whipping the frenzy. A great adage is that when you're in a hole, the first thing you should do is stop digging.
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Old 06-09-2021, 06:01 PM   #815
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Looky here, ballots were water marked!


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Old 06-10-2021, 06:40 AM   #816
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I’m sure Speedy will dismiss General Flynn. With over 20yrs experience in military intelligence. He already KNOWS what happened in November 2020.
General Flynn has his opinion.

As of today, more than 7 months after the election, there is absolutely no proof that computers changed votes, unregistered people voted, dead people voted, illegal ballots were "found" and counted, people voted multiple times, etc., anywhere in the country.

The charade continues in Arizona. The hand recount should be done this week but other aspects are being checked. It will be July before a final report is out, if then. The followin by Eric Boehlert sums up very well my opinion on the subject.

Now in its seventh week, the pointless review of two million ballots in Maricopa County, Arizona's most populous outpost, has not only emerged as a dishonest, partisan circus, it's also a blueprint for how right-wing conspiracists want to treat future GOP election losses. Along the way, they're deliberately destroying faith in the democratic process.

As the "fraudits" spread to other states, and as it becomes clear that hard-core Republican fanatics will stop at nothing in their pursuit of overturning the 2020 election, it's imperative the press undertake a course correction and stop calling these partisan sham events "audits." They're not going away and the press needs a better, more exact way to describe them. By adopting GOP "audit" language, journalists are doing the right wing's bidding and undermining confidence in U.S. elections.


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Old 06-10-2021, 06:54 AM   #817
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The crime of the century takes time to organize the sting of the century.


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Old 06-10-2021, 07:18 AM   #818
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Right and some people will never "get it"
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Old 06-10-2021, 08:17 AM   #819
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I have to question the judgement of anyone who says "that there is no proof". There's lots of proof but you just won't accept it. You refuse to answer what you would accept but poo poo anything like an admission by Dominion that, yes, votes were changed by their machines (but it was caused by human error right?).
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Old 06-10-2021, 08:22 AM   #820
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I have to question the judgement of anyone who says "that there is no proof". There's lots of proof but you just won't accept it. You refuse to answer what you would accept but poo poo anything like an admission by Dominion that, yes, votes were changed by their machines (but it was caused by human error right?).
Or, the machines aren’t connected to the internet. I watched Jovan Pulitzer hack into Georgia machines live during his testimony to the Georgia Senate. He showed several Chinese entities lurking on those machines.
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Old 06-10-2021, 09:54 AM   #821
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I have to question the judgement of anyone who says "that there is no proof". There's lots of proof but you just won't accept it. You refuse to answer what you would accept but poo poo anything like an admission by Dominion that, yes, votes were changed by their machines (but it was caused by human error right?).
There is absolutely no PROOF. There are unproven allegations most of which have been proven to be incorrect based on FACT.

It is very easy to determine if Dominion computer systems changed votes. In those districts that use Dominion servers, compare the vote totals from the servers to a hand count of ballots. This has been done in Georgia with no discepancies found.

Please supply a link that states Dominion admitted that votes were changed by their machines?

CLAIM: A report released this week in Michigan shows Dominion Voting Systems machines in Antrim County, Michigan, were “intentionally designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results.”

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. This report rests on falsehoods about a human error in Antrim County and about Dominion machines, according to state and local officials. The initial vote reporting error in Antrim County was isolated and has been identified and explained by election officials. It was caused by a clerk’s failure to update media drives for certain tabulators to reflect the correct ballot content. It was not a machine problem.


What else you got?
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Old 06-10-2021, 09:58 AM   #822
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Or, the machines aren’t connected to the internet. I watched Jovan Pulitzer hack into Georgia machines live during his testimony to the Georgia Senate. He showed several Chinese entities lurking on those machines.
Again, Georgia's audit compared output from the Dominion machines to a hand count of ballots and found no discepancies. Whether or not the machines were, or could have been, connected to the internet becomes a moot point.
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Old 06-10-2021, 10:30 AM   #823
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Again, Georgia's audit compared output from the Dominion machines to a hand count of ballots and found no discepancies. Whether or not the machines were, or could have been, connected to the internet becomes a moot point.
Really? They just counted the same ballots with no forensic examination. I watched Jovan Pulitzer hack into the machines live during his testimony to Georgia’s senate. I posted the video many pages ago. So you’re wrong.

Here it is again Speedy, just for you;

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jVrhu97Y9-0


I hope YouTube is on your approved sources list


VOTING MACHINES��

Matt Deperno isn't the first person to claim that people are gaining "remote access" to the voting machines.

In Georgia, 20-year election worker, Susan Voyles, claimed Dominion tech specialists “operated remotely” on her and her teams’ ballot-marking devices and poll pads after the team experienced some technical problems with the machines.

"They operated remotely on both the ballot-marking device and on the poll pads."

It's not a stretch of the imagination that the entire state of Georgia's election was connected to the internet considering the entire state uses Dominion ballot-marking devices as their voting machines.

Even NBC News said ES&S is using 14,000 modems around the country.

Remember, anything that can be "remotely accessed" is hooked up to the internet and therefore can be hacked.

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Old 06-10-2021, 10:50 AM   #824
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Yeah, recounting illegal votes or ones spit out by a copier is worthless. What needs to take place is the ballots need to be verified as coming from an eligible voter, and that voter hasn’t submitted another ballot.

Here’s 3000 from a building that had no residents, and if they were forwarded to an actual voter (wanna buy a bridge?) it would be a felony. Problem is that the powers that be don’t give AF, if their guy cheated his way into office they’re totally fine with it.
https://newspress.com/anatomy-of-an-...investigation/
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Old 06-10-2021, 11:03 AM   #825
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Yeah, recounting illegal votes or ones spit out by a copier is worthless. What needs to take place is the ballots need to be verified as coming from an eligible voter, and that voter hasn’t submitted another ballot.

Here’s 3000 from a building that had no residents, and if they were forwarded to an actual voter (wanna buy a bridge?) it would be a felony. Problem is that the powers that be don’t give AF, if their guy cheated his way into office they’re totally fine with it.
https://newspress.com/anatomy-of-an-...investigation/
I laugh when people like Speedy say there’s no evidence. All he can do is attack your sources. Even when the sources are proven to be factual. Of course the MSM and social media has banned any talk of voter fraud. They’re information suppressors, not information disseminators. He just can’t realize it. But that’s ok. We’ve been fed propaganda since the 60’s. Some people wake up, some don’t.

Maybe he trusts Lester Holt;


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