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Old 03-17-2025, 02:34 PM   #61
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BREAKING: Donald Trump’s lawyer, Mike Davis, suggests that Hunter Biden may have signed his own pardon.

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Old 03-17-2025, 03:29 PM   #62
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Evidence of Biden’s cognitive decline is everywhere.

https://x.com/drawandstrike/status/1...984394292?s=42

The American people saw it with their own eyes. Especially at the debate. Biden didn’t even write, or sign the letter of him dropping out of the Presidential race. “Dr” Jill ran the last Cabinet meeting.
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Old 03-17-2025, 03:37 PM   #63
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... The pardons for those on the "J6 Committee" surely need
to be looked at very closely.

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Old 03-17-2025, 03:50 PM   #64
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OH MY GOD… ��️ ��

What if all this wasn’t just about Joe Biden using the autopen? What if it’s about past presidents?

Wouldn’t it be crazy if the use of autopens were unconstitutional when signing EO’s and Legislation?

How many times have we watched Donald Trump sit in front of the cameras and sign, BY HAND, Executive Orders, then very famously hand out pens?

What did Donald Trump famously do as soon as he entered office in 2025?
—— he sat down in an arena full of citizens and signed every single EO BY HAND.

Donald Trump has NEVER used an autopen for EO’s or legislation.

THERE’S A REASON FOR THAT…

�� THERE IS A CONSTITUTIONAL REASON

1. Article I, Section 7: This outlines the legislative process, stating that a bill becomes law if the president “approves” it and that he “shall sign it” if he does, or return it with objections (veto) if he doesn’t.
—— The phrase “shall sign it” is the key…. does this imply a personal, physical act?

2. Article II, Section 1: The president’s executive power is vested in him
—— this suggests that certain acts—like approving laws—are his alone to perform, raising questions about delegating that act to a machine.

• The Constitution assumes the president’s conscious, individual assent to a law.
—— An autopen, even if authorized, is a mechanical proxy—some argue it’s akin to delegating the decision itself, which the president can’t legally do.

• The framers envisioned a hands-on executive role. In 1787, signing meant PEN TO PAPER by the person in question
——no machines existed to complicate this. An autopen might clash with that original understanding.

• Legal Authenticity: A signature traditionally proves intent and identity.
—— If a machine replicates it, could someone later challenge the law’s validity by claiming the president didn’t truly “sign” it? (LIKE TRUMP IS DOING NOW)

• Precedent Concerns: If autopens are okay, what’s next—digital signatures, aides signing, or AI approvals?

�� OBAMA and the AUTOPEN

• In 2011, there were major concerns amongst constitutional scholars when Obama signed The Patriot Act Extension remotely, while he was in France…

�� I BELIEVE DONALD TRUMP WANTS THIS TO GO TO THE SUPREME COURT

Expect Donald Trump’s decision to make Joe Biden’s pardons VOID to get smacked down by a corrupt judge first…

BUT it will ultimately go to the Supreme Court, and that is exactly where I believe Donald Trump wants it to go.

PAY ATTENTION to the ruling’s language of the Supreme Court ruling if and when it comes. The language will determine how far back it applies.
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Old 03-17-2025, 05:02 PM   #65
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Things should get interesting


https://x.com/juliesnark1731/status/...811581902?s=42
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Old 03-17-2025, 06:45 PM   #66
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Looks like another red herring
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Dershowitz doesn’t think so

https://x.com/newsmax/status/1901786880762327453?s=42
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Old 03-18-2025, 04:45 AM   #68
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Pandora’s box has been opened ..

What deals are now in danger of being nullified ...

What about funding was approved ... What about Federal and Judicial appointments .. including Jackson to SCOTUS ...

Everything was done illegitimately ....

How does it end ..
With the entire Presidency being revealed as illegitimate because of the fact that they stole the 2020 election ...

Fraud .. Vitiates .. Everything ..

We’ve just hit 88mph ....

W.H.G.
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Old 03-18-2025, 05:16 AM   #69
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Pandora’s box has been opened ..

What deals are now in danger of being nullified ...

What about funding was approved ... What about Federal and Judicial appointments .. including Jackson to SCOTUS ...

Everything was done illegitimately ....

How does it end ..
With the entire Presidency being revealed as illegitimate because of the fact that they stole the 2020 election ...

Fraud .. Vitiates .. Everything ..

We’ve just hit 88mph ....

W.H.G.
This is extreme wishful thinking bordering on 1+1=Potato

The persistent need to try to invalidate the past will distract from the now and the future. Starts with autopen, but knew we would get here eventually.

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