Socked, stunned and pleased

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

What you, and others, seem to be doing is using news reports and drawing conclusions BEFORE ANY DUE PROCESS.

They did the same thing for Balsy-Ford.

[oeb11]

SR - You are in leftists Denial - after the Tornado of Guilt by accusation your DPST party inflicted on kavanaugh - to then ignore the accusations against Biden.

ignoring out of hand - ala the leftists hypocritical dingbat Alyssa Milano - "All women must be believed - unless it is a Democrat that rapes - then - 'That's different""
There will be no investigation - DPST's are falsely quoting the NYT as having 'cleared Biden' - even the NYT denied they had done so.



If - and it won't happen - we see the same "outrage" of the LSM and the political leadership - along with a formal investigation/hearings of Biden - it would be equal response of the DPST's - Meanwhile u are just circling the wagons to protect Senile joe - and cannot even admit to his pre-senile dementia.



Denial and Hypocrisy!

[oeb11]

[oeb11]

[oeb11]

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by pfunkdenver

Have fun at the next KKK meeting!

Normally I would respond to this with a rude insult but I do not wish to run afoul of the authorities.

I am not now, nor have I ever been a member of the KKK - even if Judah Benjamin was!

[oeb11]

#metoo - due process is unnecessary!
Democrat - innocent
Republican - guilty.



And so goes the Fascist DPST Hypocrisy!!!

and so it goes - and so it goes!

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by oeb11

#metoo - due process is unnecessary!
Democrat - innocent
Republican - guilty.

And so goes the Fascist DPST Hypocrisy!!!

and so it goes - and so it goes!

who was the last House democrat forced to resign by the democratic party?

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

There is nothing wrong with believing one person and not believing another person based on the evidence available. Tara Reade's story has changed several times over the years, from a simple unwanted touching of shoulder and neck to fingers up her vagina. Did Ford change her story of sexual assault by Kavanaugh? I don't remember.



We don't know because we don't know what she told other people before she testified. But "evolving" stories are quite common in sexual assault cases.


https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2...-rape-debunked


5. Traumatic experiences scramble your memories: maybe you’ve misremembered what happened

Many people who have been raped or sexually assaulted often claim to have vivid memories of certain images, sounds and smells associated with the attack – even if happened decades earlier. Yet when asked to recall exactly what time of day it was, or who and what was where at any given time – the kinds of details police and prosecutors often focus on to establish the facts of a crime – they may struggle or contradict themselves, undermining their testimony.
“There is this tragic discrepancy between what is expected within the criminal justice system and the nature of trauma memories and how people are likely to be reporting them,” says Amy Hardy, a clinical psychologist at Kings College London.




I certainly agree that some Democratic women could certainly be guilty of being hypocrites.

OK, without projecting numbers, lets say ALL those Democrats, including the men like Biden who said women should always be believed

But to stand in silence, as many Democratic women are doing today and Republican women did in 2016 when allegations were made against Trump, is not wrong.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/3046962001/

Again, you are either not listening and understanding what I'm saying or you don't care to admit what I am saying. True, there is nothing wrong with "standing in silence" before all the evidence is known and if all those Democrat women ( and men ) had stood in silence, offering no judgement till all the evidence was heard, I would have applauded that but that is not what the majority did. They offered condemnation based on one thing and one thing only, that all women should be believed regardless if they change there stories, Hell, even Biden said so! He said something to the effect that "even if they can't remember the details exactly" they should be believed. Is that what Biden or the "standing in silence" are saying now?


No, it is not

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Biden & Byrd. What a handsome couple.
Recall that Byrd died shortly after kissing Hilary Clinton on the lips. And that was even before Muh Corona.

interesting how that happens. Hillary's "kiss of death" includes her leftanista allies along with the dozens of potential witnesses that keep shooting themselves in the head .. twice. gotta make sure the job gets done right yeah??


BAHHAHAAAA

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Juries do it on a regular basis ... AFTER DUE PROCESS.

What you, and others, seem to be doing is using news reports and drawing conclusions BEFORE ANY DUE PROCESS.

I think both of you fail to understand the new world order created by the preening, screetching, flailing and demented Demonicrats. Trump and in this case Brent were guilty before any hint of due process, and were expected to prove their innocence. Hypocrisy? I think more like stupidity. This is why we have due process.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

Again, you are either not listening and understanding what I'm saying or you don't care to admit what I am saying. True, there is nothing wrong with "standing in silence" before all the evidence is known and if all those Democrat women ( and men ) had stood in silence, offering no judgement till all the evidence was heard, I would have applauded that but that is not what the majority did. They offered condemnation based on one thing and one thing only, that all women should be believed regardless if they change there stories, Hell, even Biden said so! He said something to the effect that "even if they can't remember the details exactly" they should be believed. Is that what Biden or the "standing in silence" are saying now?


No, it is not

I do not think that any person who alleges sexual misconduct should be automatically believed. Nor should they not be automatically believed.

"From the beginning, many #MeToo activists emphasized that while accusers should be taken seriously and treated respectfully, that did not mean they should be believed without question. During the furor over Kavanaugh, for example, many of his critics supported one of his accusers, psychology professor Christine Blasey Ford, while remaining wary of others.

“Believing survivors is about a paradigm shift away from assuming that survivors are lying right out of the gate, which has been our cultural and societal norm,” said Shaunna Thomas, co-founder of UltraViolet, a group that advocates for gender equality."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...1fc_story.html

"Believe women" was never a call to believe all women automatically.

That's what leading Democrats, including the prominent figures of the #MeToo movement, are suggesting as they stand behind former Vice President Joe Biden and his bid to unseat President Donald Trump. From House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to the female senators who ran for president and prominent Hollywood activists, they're not backing down after Biden on Friday publicly denied a former aide's accusation that he assaulted her in 1993.

Karen Finney, a prominent Democratic strategist and message-maker who worked for Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign, rejected the Kavanaugh comparison outright.

In the context of sexual assault allegations, Finney said "believe women" doesn't mean accepting as fact any assertion, but instead means affording women the default credibility to take claims seriously.

"If you start from the premise that this person is telling the truth, then you do the investigation and look at the facts," she said, "and if the facts tell a different story, then that's an important conversation to have."

https://13wham.com/news/nation-world...t-their-claims

In my opinion anyone who says "All women must be believed" does not mean that a person accused of sexual misconduct be deemed guilty and have to prove innocence. It means that the allegations must be taken seriously and investigated as if they are telling the truth.

[eccielover]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

In my opinion anyone who says "All women must be believed" does not mean that a person accused of sexual misconduct be deemed guilty and have to prove innocence. It means that the allegations must be taken seriously and investigated as if they are telling the truth.

So can we put you on record as calling out all of those Dems automatically now believing Biden without giving Reade her due chance to have things investigated?

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by eccielover

So can we put you on record as calling out all of those Dems automatically now believing Biden without giving Reade her due chance to have things investigated?

I'm not sure who they might be, but if anyone without reason dismisses the charges made by Reade they should be called out.

I believed Trump was innocent until proven guilty. Same for Kavanaugh. Same for Biden.

[eccielover]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I'm not sure who they might be, but if anyone without reason dismisses the charges made by Reade they should be called out.

I believed Trump was innocent until proven guilty. Same for Kavanaugh. Same for Biden.

So is with reason enough by just taking the word of the accused over the word of the accuser?