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Old 01-31-2017, 12:12 PM   #61
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Get off Obama's dick already.
How do you know he has one? If he does, sorry I soiled it for you!
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Old 01-31-2017, 12:12 PM   #62
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Yup^^^^^^ ( I remember " the night stalker" show) The country is like your house you only have to let in who you want ........
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Old 01-31-2017, 12:15 PM   #63
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Yup^^^^^^ ( I remember " the night stalker" show) The country is like your house you only have to let in who you want ........
When this country is generating 25-35 year-old babies that need coloring books and comfort pets to survive the grief over their candidate losing an election who deem it their "right" to live in their parents' home and eat out of their parents' frig ... then their perception of "inalienable rights" is rather broad and all encompassing.

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Old 01-31-2017, 12:43 PM   #64
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That List makes no sense lol

but whatever my commander in chief says ...
Well, the old "commander in chief" made the list ... but ...

can you still come and go?
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That Odumbo did! But lib-retards don't want to hear or see the truth.
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Old 01-31-2017, 01:00 PM   #65
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That Odumbo did! But lib-retards don't want to hear or see the truth.
They will. One day at a time! Monday through Saturday.
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Old 01-31-2017, 04:07 PM   #66
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Yup^^^^^^ ( I remember " the night stalker" show) The country is like your house you only have to let in who you want ........
Yep I had a guy tell me something today........a plumber that has a a broken pipe and it spraying water every where. He don't work on it till he cuts the water off. Then he fixes it. and turns the water back on

That's what Trump is doing turning off the the flow of people till the broken system can be fixed.

Glad you remember Kolchak !
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Old 01-31-2017, 07:07 PM   #67
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How do you know he has one? If he does, sorry I soiled it for you!
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Old 02-01-2017, 04:43 AM   #68
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Yep I had a guy tell me something today........a plumber that has a a broken pipe and it spraying water every where. He don't work on it till he cuts the water off. Then he fixes it. and turns the water back on

That's what Trump is doing turning off the the flow of people till the broken system can be fixed.

Glad you remember Kolchak !
At the moment the ONLY WAY the Democrats are doing to have any chance in 2018 or 2020 is to allow as many foreigners into the country as they can, either give them IDs (like California), allow them to BUY social security cards, resist any vetting and/or verification of the "new citizens," and fast track those that can pass additional vetting into citizenship so they can legally vote in 2018 and/or 2020!

By their failed policies, abusive strangle hold on Washington, and media hysteria they are systematically imploding on their own bullshit ... as the saying goes "the chickens have come home"! They are out of step with most of the legitimate voters! 80-85% of the population of this country are CHRISTIANS ... they were the ones who settled it ... which is why they put their trust in GOD and NOT THE "ALLAH" of the Muslim faith with the "laws" that accompany it!
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Old 02-02-2017, 05:33 AM   #69
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You fucked-up, Andy the Little Nazi Boy. Try the words from the horses mouth on 7 April 1980, Andy the Little Nazi Boy ... not the Daily Communist!
These are Carter's own words:

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We will not reissue visas, nor will we issue new visas, except for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons...."
He did allow the entries of the Iranians by granting them refugee and political asylum visas, and the statistics clearly refute your prejudicial comparison of Carter's EO to Trump's banning with no exceptions
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Old 02-02-2017, 05:56 AM   #70
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These are Carter's own words:

He did allow the entries of the Iranians by granting them refugee and political asylum visas, and the statistics clearly refute your prejudicial comparison of Carter's EO to Trump's banning with no exceptions
You're a willful hypocrite, Andy the little Nazi Boy.


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(g) Notwithstanding a suspension pursuant to subsection (c) of this section or pursuant to a Presidential proclamation described in subsection (e) of this section, the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may, on a case-by-case basis, and when in the national interest, issue visas or other immigration benefits to nationals of countries for which visas and benefits are otherwise blocked.
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Old 02-02-2017, 06:00 AM   #71
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A "suspension" is a "pause", you deliberately obtuse jackass, and Trump’s so-called “ban” is also only a “ninety-day suspension”, Andy the Little Nazi Boy.
No. Obama's State Department "did in fact stop processing Iraqi refugees during a six-month period in 2011... But the 2011 situation wasn't a full travel ban... Obama's measure didn't apply to immigrants and tourists."

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Despite the restrictions under Obama's policy, people were still able to apply for a visa using the regular immigration process, a right not afforded by Trump's executive order, which bans travel from the countries for 90 days, among other restrictions.

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Well, the old "commander in chief" made the list ... but ...

can you still come and go?
Funny how all these educated, politically savvy liberals don't have a clue about that.


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He did allow the entries of the Iranians by granting them refugee and political asylum visas, and the statistics clearly refute your prejudicial comparison of Carter's EO to Trump's banning with no exceptions
So, it's your claim that Carter allowed just any Iranians into the country for "political asylum" ...

.. and Trump is "banning" .... who?

Are you familiar (personally) with the relationship between Iran and the U.S. when Carter became President? First, to compare the circumstances when Carter took office to those of Trump with regard to Iran is ridiculous. Secondly, to compare the circumstances of those who sought "political asylum" when trying to come to the U.S. after the Revolution in Iran to the circumstances of those trying to come to the U.S. now under the Trump administration is also ridiculous.

By virtue of our involvement with Iran, militarily and otherwise, when Carter took office the U.S. government had the ability to "vet" those persons seeking "asylum" from Iran ... the Shah even came here .... the U.S. was vetting people from Iran to come here for military (and academic) training ... just like we had people coming to the U.S. from Iraq in the 60's for training and education.

The countries on the list contained in Trump's EO are countries without a system of identifying and vetting persons from that country ... and it has already been determined (under the Obaminable administration) that ISIS had taken over operations that counterfeited passports and other documents (visas) for the use of persons who could buy them, but also for their own use to "move about the World"!

Listen CRITICALLY to the comments being made by persons opposed to what Trump is doing .... when they talk about "checking" the persons seeking entry into the U.S. ...

... their bullshit goes something like:

"We checked their name against the data base and we found no information that would indicate they were a risk"!!!

You could probably run "Lexus Lover" against the State/Federal criminal history data bases and find ...

"no outstanding warrants, prior arrest history, or convictions"!

You are a simpleton!
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Old 02-02-2017, 06:12 AM   #74
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No. Obama's State Department "did in fact stop processing Iraqi refugees during a six-month period in 2011... But the 2011 situation wasn't a full travel ban... Obama's measure didn't apply to immigrants and tourists."
Trump's EO ... is NOT A "FULL TRAVEL BAN"!!!

Those "refugees" can go anywhere in the World (or stay in Turkey), but for 90-120 days they just are not allowed into the U.S. SO THAT THE UNITED STATES CAN DETERMINE HOW TO VET THEM IN A RELIABLE MANNER!

In the current group of persons "detained" (not "banned") there were persons coming to the U.S. to meet persons already here ... citizens and otherwise ....

I refer you to the San Bernardino terrorists .... one citizen and one "otherwise" ... and they traveled outside of the U.S. to Saudi Arabia ...

" On December 16, 2015, Comey said, "We can see from our investigation that in late 2013, before there is a physical meeting of these two people [Farook and Malik] resulting in their engagement and then journey to the United States, they are communicating online, showing signs in that communication of their joint commitment to jihadism and to martyrdom. Those communications are direct, private messages."[94][95] Comey said that the FBI's investigation had revealed that the perpetrators were "consuming poison on the Internet" and both had become radicalized "before they started courting or dating each other online" and "before the emergence of ISIL."[94][96] As a result, Comey said that "untangling the motivations of which particular terrorist propaganda motivated in what way remains a challenge in these investigations, and our work is ongoing there."[94]"

They were "vetted" by the same State Department/FBI/Homeland Security that vetted EVERYONE OF THOSE PERSONS DETAINED BY TRUMP'S EO!
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FDR's infamous Executive Order 9066, Andy the Little Nazi Boy, after FDR called for and got Congress to declare war which involves severing all diplomatic ties and includes the right to "apprehend, restrain, secure, and remove" alien enemies, you perennial jackass!
Did you bother to read your own link, Little Hans? FDR issued EO 9066 to clear "the way for the deportation of Japanese Americans, Italian Americans, and German Americans to internment camps." It's not an order to "suspend immigration" as you have falsely claimed.


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