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Old 11-14-2015, 05:02 AM   #61
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Why don't YOU get off your fat ass and go fight 'em, LLIdiot?

You owe us all a few rounds in the ring, right?

Or are your saving it all up for your upcoming match with SpeedRacerXXX?
Actually, I figured you and Speedo would be on your way over there to ...

... "kick their asses"!


I mean after all ..... to seasoned, combat military veterans, who kick ass without even taking a name or getting any background information before leaping up off the bench! Kicking ISIS's asses is a walk in the park!!! Right?

And did you actually post ..... "rounds in a ring"?

Apparently you want to deflect from the FACT that I wasn't threatening anyone with an aggravated assault!

Texas Penal Code § Sec. 22.02. AGGRAVATED ASSAULT.
(a) A person commits an offense if the person commits assault as defined in Sec. 22.01 and the person: (1) causes serious bodily injury to another, .......
(b) An offense under this section is a felony of the second degree, ...."

The only "ring" in this discussion is the ones in your nose and in your ear lobs.
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Old 11-14-2015, 05:07 AM   #62
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Dr. Donald N. Wilber's Regime Change in Iran: Overthrow of Premier Mossadeq November 1952 – August 1953 can be termed a government source. However, Vasili Mitrokhin (with Christopher Andrew) in his books, The World Was Going Our Way: The KGB and the Battle for the Third World and The Sword and the Shield: The Mitrokhin Archive and the Secret History of the KGB, cannot be termed a government source. Yet, both relate the rise and influence of the Tudeh Party and the Soviet quest to gain control over Iranian oil.
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Old 11-14-2015, 06:01 AM   #63
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Dr. Wilber, Donald N. Wilber's Regime Change in Iran: Overthrow of Premier Mossadeq November 1952 – August 1953 can be termed a government source. However, Vasili Mitrokhin (with Christopher Andrew) in his books, The World Was Going Our Way: The KGB and the Battle for the Third World and The Sword and the Shield: The Mitrokhin Archive and the Secret History of the KGB, cannot be termed a government source. Yet, both relate the rise and influence of the Tudeh Party and the Soviet quest to gain control over Iranian oil.
The "chant" of the U.S. plundering the world's resources as "spoils" of any military confrontation and/or excursion is merely a parroting of the apologetic rant of the current POTUS-POS. The only reason Russia had oil was U.S. exploration and drilling technology and their conquests in Europe, Afghanistan, and now the Middle East is to secure pipeline routes....for gas and oil. (And we can't even get one laid across our own country!!!)
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Old 11-14-2015, 11:36 PM   #64
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I stand by my statements. If you want to believe what the government tells you, go ahead. Stay ignorant. We fight wars for oil companies, banks and defense contractors. We don't fight for freedom any more.
You're ducking the question, COG. Who is "stealing oil" when the countries are being paid in full for every barrel they produce?
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Old 11-15-2015, 01:00 AM   #65
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Iran's Tudeh Party was formed in 1941, you 2015 DOTY and "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas, and it -- with Soviet backing -- was making inroads into Mossadegh's government soon after he was elected.
And?
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Old 11-15-2015, 01:12 AM   #66
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This post is so ignorant I thought woomby wrote it. Look, if we wanted to "steal oil" then we would just seize the oilfields, pump the stuff out, load it on tankers, sell it and keep the proceeds for ourselves. That's not what happened. Not in Iran. Not in Iraq. Not in Libya.

When we invaded Iraq we never took or kept a dime of the proceeds from their oil sales. Every dollar flowed right back into the coffers of the Iraqi government to be spent as they saw fit. (Ditto for Iran and Libya.) That's not "stealing oil".

See the difference, COG?

We never even used any Iraqi oil to reimburse ourselves for the costs of our Iraq intervention. Perhaps we should have, but it would have deprived the Iraqis of their main revenue source.

China is the biggest buyer of Iraqi oil these days. And our fleet in the Persian Gulf keeps the shipping lanes open for them.
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You are truly ignorant... you think the world would stand for us just marching in and walking out with oil? Why would we do that when we can make the oil guys AND the defense contractors rich at the same time? It's a slow bleed, you fucking ignoramus, but someone with your lack of imagination is always two steps behind.

Before we got to Iraq, their oil industry was nationalized. US and other foreign oil companies could not do business there. Guess who is doing business there now? Even the brass knew it:

"Of course it's about oil; we can't really deny that," said Gen. John Abizaid, former head of U.S. Central Command and Military Operations in Iraq, in 2007.

But of course Lusty Tard knows better than the head of fucking CENTCOM

"Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said the same in 2007: "People say we're not fighting for oil. Of course we are."

"Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan agreed, writing in his memoir, "I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil."

Or others in the know

It wasn't about taking their oil or using their proceeds to fund the war, you goddamn idiot. It was about getting the oil companies in there so they could do business. Why run down and fuck one cow when you can walk down and fuck them all? Idiot.
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Old 11-15-2015, 01:15 AM   #67
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You're ducking the question, COG. Who is "stealing oil" when the countries are being paid in full for every barrel they produce?
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The Iraqi economy is not benefitting from the oil. The contracts are friendly to the oil companies, not the iraqi people. Bush tried to ram new laws regarding oil production into place, but the parliament rejected them. So the companies simply operate under long-term contracts now. It also did very little to add jobs for iraqi people.
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Old 11-15-2015, 06:16 AM   #68
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Really, really...........after nearly 8 years of new directions, transparency and change we are still going to blame it on Bush? No fan of that administration or it's policies one would have to wonder with so many other Rule Changes, Administrative Changes, Executive Orders and Laws that have infringed upon us in the last 8 years, why did not this Administration then walk back the way the Oil Companies and Crooked Governments in the Middle East and the U.S. are allowed to do business. The answer may lie in that the REAL WHORES are in D.C., irregardless of Race, Creed, or Party Affiliation..........

It's not my fault......................... ..........................(jus t insert the problem du jour)

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The Tudeh Party was communist, and the reality was even if the rise of the Tuden Party didn't directly threaten Western interests at that time, Iran could not exist apolitical in a vacuum, you 2015 DOTY and "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas. There were real Cold War issues – Korea in particular – that required governments and leaders to make hard decisions, even unsavory decisions, you 2015 DOTY and "#Grubered", freelance faggot, Odumbo Minion from Arkansas.
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You are truly ignorant... How would you know?

Before we got to Iraq, their oil industry was nationalized. US and other foreign oil companies could not do business there. Not true.

Guess who is doing business there now? ISIS

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The Iraqi economy is not benefitting from the oil. You are correct. ISIS is.
Do you just make this shit up? ... Or is someone helping you make it up?
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Old 11-15-2015, 09:07 AM   #71
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LLIDIOT spamming the board.

You really are a desperate old fool, aren't you, LLIdiot?

Or are you just afraid SpeedRacerXXX is going to finally kick your ass for real?

Could it be something else, LLephant Man? Why has nobody seen you without a sack over your head?

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......are you just afraid SpeedRacerXXX is going to finally kick your ass for real?
No. And I suspect he knows that by now.
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It's Obama's fault.

Please expain, Scat Daddy?


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You are truly ignorant... you think the world would stand for us just marching in and walking out with oil?
Why shouldn't we? You and COG already stupidly think we steal their oil. Since we're getting blamed for it anyway, we might as well start doing it.

"To the victor go the spoils!"

That's the way the world used to operate, sewer rat. Apparently you think it still does.
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Why shouldn't we? You and COG already stupidly think we steal their oil. Since we're getting blamed for it anyway, we might as well start doing it.

"To the victor go the spoils!"

That's the way the world used to operate, sewer rat. Apparently you think it still does.
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I notice you didn't address my other post where people who would know a lot more than you were quoted as saying it was about the oil.

To the victor go the spoils is always how the world has operated and it still does. The fact that you think it doesn't operate that way is a perfect illustration of your stupidity. What a naive little shit you are.
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