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Old 12-21-2014, 05:20 PM   #61
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Old 12-21-2014, 06:02 PM   #62
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come on girl post anything
OSD she can't because she knows anything she says is a lie

Doove, prove me wrong - I dare ya to try
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Old 12-21-2014, 07:36 PM   #63
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elg - i'm sorry you feel that way but can understand why you do. becasue I respect you, I will comment

as stated previously, this provider and I go back a long ways. in fact, she and her son were to move in with me when I initially move to syracuse in 2012. on the day of the move, she said she was not interested in me and moved in with TM shortly thereafter. life goes on i moved, she and TM got together - see his review involving her under his previous psuedonym. things between those 2 degenerated - for whatever reason, not my biz. she moves to iowa from whence she came, things there evolved as documented in the ML. She moved back to albany area late last spring?? and she and I have been making passes at each other since September. We have gotten together several times since then - every instance involved her use of PT including her our reacquaintance when her brother od'ed in the back seat of my car while driving him home. then there was the night at the AC as referenced by OSD, where she left the bar with a pimp/dealer and was gone for a while obtaining PT

brings us to present. a few weeks back, she contacts me out of the blue and wants to "try" again. she gives me card as shown in ML. should I have run away then - absolutely. didn't. smell of pussy but still didn't trust her. all was going well - apparently, till things fell apart thursday. well, let me backtrack a little - all going well except for pt use. all her money earned for providing was going to her habit. she was asking me for $$ to support her addiction - I wouldn't comply. she left thursday presumably because I wouldnt' support her habit ($300 a day minimum).

I honestly wish her no ill will - in fact hope she has the fortitude to break the habit. don't think it will happen though. its too bad as she was a sweet kid when i first met her. yeah, smoked some mj. whatever. now she is displacing realty and blaming everyone else for her problems.

she can be an outstanding provider and person elg. hope she can kick some nasty habits and regain some dignity. my reason for posting in ML were simply to alert general population of potential dangers. unfortunately WKs surface to obfuscate the reality being laid before their feet.

wish her well, but doubt it will happen there. too bad
posts like this ...make even ...plastic man ...seem sane

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Old 12-22-2014, 08:41 AM   #64
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Should you truly desire to do that, by all means -- feel free to start that discussion. You may feel you know it - but it is second hand. i know it first hand. I lived it. She has told others on this Board that I am the cause of her demise. That is simply untrue. If you choose to believe her story, even after she has shown herself to have total disregard for the truth, then my opinion of your level headedness will have been misplaced.
Interesting that you steered my comment in this direction. But ok.

Not that it matters, but i'm quite skeptical of pretty much everything she tells me. Most of it i'll dismiss entirely. But in fairness, i'm going to be a little less skeptical if what she tells me jibes with what i read from your own posts and comments, among other things.

We can disregard everything she's ever said to me, and still come to a reasonable conclusion that a middle-aged man used his money to seduce a hooker less than half his age. A middle-aged man with, based on his own words and posts, apparent control issues. And, surprisingly or not, the girl came out of that relationship quite a mess with some pretty bad habits. And furthermore, this middle-aged man with control issues not only had the means, but also the opportunity to be the easiest and most direct source of her bad habits.

Now, none of that is to definitively say you're the cause of her issues. Only you and her know what truly happened between the two of you. In fact, i don't doubt that you were victimized as you say. But it is to say that perhaps there are aspects here that oughta be considered beyond just the blanket denial of an anonymous poster on an escort review board. No matter how above board and respectable that poster may appear to be. And that, while a victim, that maybe, just maybe, you're not an entirely innocent victim in all this.

And as far as my level headedness, if you really wanna go there, being someone who was victimized to the extent you were by a 22 year old prostitute, well, feel free.
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Old 12-22-2014, 11:17 AM   #65
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I've watched this forum substitute the phrase "PT" to try and skirt the guidelines for too long. Moderators, how can you explain allowing this post to remain unedited when it's in violation of at least two guidelines?

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elg - i'm sorry you feel that way but can understand why you do. becasue I respect you, I will comment

as stated previously, this provider and I go back a long ways. in fact, she and her son were to move in with me when I initially move to syracuse in 2012. on the day of the move, she said she was not interested in me and moved in with TM shortly thereafter. life goes on i moved, she and TM got together - see his review involving her under his previous psuedonym. things between those 2 degenerated - for whatever reason, not my biz. she moves to iowa from whence she came, things there evolved as documented in the ML. She moved back to albany area late last spring?? and she and I have been making passes at each other since September. We have gotten together several times since then - every instance involved her use of PT including her our reacquaintance when her brother od'ed in the back seat of my car while driving him home. then there was the night at the AC as referenced by OSD, where she left the bar with a pimp/dealer and was gone for a while obtaining PT

brings us to present. a few weeks back, she contacts me out of the blue and wants to "try" again. she gives me card as shown in ML. should I have run away then - absolutely. didn't. smell of pussy but still didn't trust her. all was going well - apparently, till things fell apart thursday. well, let me backtrack a little - all going well except for pt use. all her money earned for providing was going to her habit. she was asking me for $$ to support her addiction - I wouldn't comply. she left thursday presumably because I wouldnt' support her habit ($300 a day minimum).

I honestly wish her no ill will - in fact hope she has the fortitude to break the habit. don't think it will happen though. its too bad as she was a sweet kid when i first met her. yeah, smoked some mj. whatever. now she is displacing realty and blaming everyone else for her problems.

she can be an outstanding provider and person elg. hope she can kick some nasty habits and regain some dignity. my reason for posting in ML were simply to alert general population of potential dangers. unfortunately WKs surface to obfuscate the reality being laid before their feet.

wish her well, but doubt it will happen there. too bad
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Old 12-22-2014, 11:23 AM   #66
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I've watched this forum substitute the phrase "PT" to try and skirt the guidelines for too long. Moderators, how can you explain allowing this post to remain unedited when it's in violation of at least two guidelines?
They're figuring out how that can be manifested into a lower cost of pussy.
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Old 12-22-2014, 11:25 AM   #67
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shhhhh......
Our mods have been working overtime to not do any modtarding....
Don't wake 'em up as it were...
It's too much fun without them....

edit add: BTW... always nice having a visitor from Texas stop by....
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Old 12-22-2014, 02:00 PM   #68
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Interesting that you steered my comment in this direction. But ok.

Not that it matters, but i'm quite skeptical of pretty much everything she tells me. Most of it i'll dismiss entirely. But in fairness, i'm going to be a little less skeptical if what she tells me jibes with what i read from your own posts and comments, among other things.

We can disregard everything she's ever said to me, and still come to a reasonable conclusion that a middle-aged man used his money to seduce a hooker less than half his age. A middle-aged man with, based on his own words and posts, apparent control issues. And, surprisingly or not, the girl came out of that relationship quite a mess with some pretty bad habits. And furthermore, this middle-aged man with control issues not only had the means, but also the opportunity to be the easiest and most direct source of her bad habits.

Now, none of that is to definitively say you're the cause of her issues. Only you and her know what truly happened between the two of you. In fact, i don't doubt that you were victimized as you say. But it is to say that perhaps there are aspects here that oughta be considered beyond just the blanket denial of an anonymous poster on an escort review board. No matter how above board and respectable that poster may appear to be. And that, while a victim, that maybe, just maybe, you're not an entirely innocent victim in all this.

And as far as my level headedness, if you really wanna go there, being someone who was victimized to the extent you were by a 22 year old prostitute, well, feel free.
Well, I don't have the time, energy, or desire to have one of those extended back and forth dialogues like you have had with Paul, MG, Normal Bob and others. I will say that it is interesting how far you extend what you feel is a reasonable conclusion. One could come up with thousands of scenarios based on the set of data you are using. Your scenario may be reasonable , but it isn't true. You can start at your first premise that a middle aged man used his money to seduce a young hooker. The idea of any relationship beyond the first visit (which was a paid visit while she was still an escort) was the young hooker's rather than the middle aged man.

As for a reasonable scenario , here is an alternate one. A young hooker retires from hooking and seduces a middle aged man -- partly because she has some apparent daddy issues and partly because he has some wealth. The middle aged man is flattered and doesn't think himself too old to make a go of it with someone 2 decades younger. Unfortunately, the young hooker has a troubled past that only gradually shows itself as time goes on. She also has certain proclivities that she has had many times in the past, but swore they were all in the past (as she does now). They were not all in the past and only got worse with time until they were out of control. Unlike your scenario, this one has the biggest source of stress between them his hatred of such proclivities rather than your assumption that he would support and encourage such proclivities. Coming out of the relationship didn't cause her to be a mess. The relationship ended as she became a mess. Anyone who knows someone who has these proclivities knows that they will say and do anything, true or not, to feed them. I find that reasonable conclusion more accurate than your reasonable conclusion.

As for the "control issues" of which you speak, one man's "control issues" is another man's "being in control". Many people feel that being in control is a good thing. You can spin it as an issue though.

In terms of victimization by a 22 yo prostitute showing some sort of lack of levelheadedness, that is only due to misplaced trust, my desire to try to help and keep giving her chances to turn things around even after the breakup. Mostly it was compassion, but there was an element of fear from the tactics mentioned in other threads which you apparently choose to ignore in favor of your theory you cite above.

That is about all the time and energy I can devote to it though , so if you want, you may continue your discussion without me , as the longer this goes on, the longer this goes on.
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Old 12-22-2014, 02:22 PM   #69
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Ok. We'll all take your word for it, i'm sure.

My best to Saige.
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Old 12-22-2014, 02:29 PM   #70
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Means, motive, and opportunity.
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Old 12-22-2014, 02:46 PM   #71
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SAB, Doove, and Jokacz... A threesome for the ages.
Although I'm gonna guess that sab isn't the bottom here.
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Old 12-22-2014, 03:20 PM   #72
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SAB, Doove, and Jokacz... A threesome for the ages.
Although I'm gonna guess that sab isn't the bottom here.
Maybe she'll take you up on your offer someday and you can join us.
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Old 12-22-2014, 03:40 PM   #73
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Maybe she'll take you up on your offer someday and you can join us.
If only she knew that we have already met.
Just like the time she said that she never saw a photographer that actually took her pics..... I'm sure that once we connected she would remember all to well who I am.
The difference is.... I'd rather just piss on her, rather than stick my sex near hers.

She would look good in some degradation porn for sure. Bc that's about all she's good for.
It's a sad day when I think that most of the broads here actually are more respectable.

I wonder why I missed a call from her yesterday... Must have had the DT's pretty bad....
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Old 12-22-2014, 04:46 PM   #74
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SAB, Doove, and Jokacz... A threesome for the ages.
Although I'm gonna guess that sab isn't the bottom here.
the buffalo mummy be waaaay too old to climb on top
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