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Old 03-18-2011, 06:01 PM   #61
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Well, for myself, if there is someplace that I have to absolutely go or service that I absolutely need; If I have a problem with the person that i'm dealing with at said place/service, i'll either kick it up the line or get someone else to help me.

For ECCIE, you can do as was suggested, go up to the next level of authority.
But seeing that you don't want that route, you have two other people to go to: Aztec or SP. You have alternatives.

If a person isn't getting paid to do a job/service, you'll find it very hard to get them to budge on something that they don't have to. Especially when you have other alternatives.

From my view, you have other avenues to go. If you didn't, than you would indeed have a true problem.
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Old 03-18-2011, 07:24 PM   #62
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Mokoa has closed threads without the Op's permission. A mod does not need permission. I would close it!

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True. I've utilized the avenues of dealing with this *issue*
Thus this thread being one of them. I have zero regret for posting & bringing it to light. This is an issue I personally feel the Mod at fault should be addressing & fixing. As he found time to participate in Sixx WM hate thread and made jabs at me & another member. But he won't step up on this issue. It's sign of disrespect. (in my eyes)
And one shouldn't have to dump his wrong doing into a lap of another Mod. It's like telling a child to go clean up another childs mess. When the child who made said mess, is capable of doing so.

You state he's not paid. Right again. However, as mentioned before. He choose (key word) to help (key word) the members of this community and the owners. And frankly, he budges enough to help some members as they've stated so. Hmmmmm.






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Well, for myself, if there is someplace that I have to absolutely go or service that I absolutely need; If I have a problem with the person that i'm dealing with at said place/service, i'll either kick it up the line or get someone else to help me.

For ECCIE, you can do as was suggested, go up to the next level of authority.
But seeing that you don't want that route, you have two other people to go to: Aztec or SP. You have alternatives.

If a person isn't getting paid to do a job/service, you'll find it very hard to get them to budge on something that they don't have to. Especially when you have other alternatives.

From my view, you have other avenues to go. If you didn't, than you would indeed have a true problem.
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Old 03-19-2011, 01:25 PM   #64
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True. I've utilized the avenues of dealing with this *issue*
Thus this thread being one of them. I have zero regret for posting & bringing it to light.

And you shouldn't feel bad. I would not expect anything less from you....

And one shouldn't have to dump his wrong doing into a lap of another Mod. It's like telling a child to go clean up another childs mess. When the child who made said mess, is capable of doing so.

It's not dumping things on another mod. Mokoa is apparently not going to address it. I was saying that in the FUTURE, if you have something specific and want results, you should try out the new mod. This issue is apparently a non-issue with SA ECCIE staff.
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Old 03-19-2011, 02:04 PM   #65
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Okay, you "personally" feel that *He* should help you.
To me that sounds like you only want him to help you and no one else.
Along my train of thought, you sound like you don't want to try any other avenue of help. If so, that is your choice. Like drowning and another person throwing a life save within your grasp but you want someone else to throw it to you.

Where I work, there are customers who are like this. They prefer to see a particular employee of my company. I can understand that. And they also prefer particular employees from my company that they do not want to see. And I understand that also.
On the other side of the coin, there are certain customers that our employees do not want to see. I understand that also.

For the employees that a customer prefers to see, we try to accomodate them. If they need help in a hurry, they'll have to take who we send if they want to. If they don't want a particular employee and they need help in a hurry, they'll have to either wait or call someone else. That is their preference. We try to accomodate expectations to an extent. And those that our employees don't choose to see, we amongst ourselves work it out without having problems.

You can *personally* feel the Mod is at fault. But you have options.
That is, unless, *He* is the only Mod that can help you.
If *He* can only help you because of *personal choice*, you have a problem.

I'll stick my neck out and assume that Mods have favourites and non-favourites and can arrange their help like we do for the company I work for.

They are just volunteers. Doesn't mean they are totally indebted to all aspects and persons of this site.
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Old 03-19-2011, 04:09 PM   #66
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They are just volunteers. Doesn't mean they are totally indebted to all aspects and persons of this site.
BINGO!!! When I was a Mod that is the position I took!

However in this case, It would be safe to say that the all the other Mod's around this board have read these posts, and have had a large ongoing discussion in the Mod area.

So why have her concerns not been addressed by someone? When they are I am sure WM will post here good or bad so we all know.
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And you continue to make excuses for him. Let him make his own. He's a big boy.



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Okay, you "personally" feel that *He* should help you. Yes, when help is requested and it's help he's capable of doing. That's one of the aspects of being a Mod in the community.

To me that sounds like you only want him to help you and no one else.
Now where have I ever stated such nonsense? You're totally twisting things around and so far off base.

Along my train of thought, you sound like you don't want to try any other avenue of help.
Ummm, hello, I do believe in post #2 (avenue #1) I indicated this issue was brought to the owners attention. (avenue #2) I also addressed it here in this staff forum as well. If it wasn't allowed. I would have been notified and this thread would have been pulled or closed. Nothing of the sort has transpired. Not even a PM nor email from said Mod, himself. Hmmmm??


If so, that is your choice. Like drowning and another person throwing a life save within your grasp but you want someone else to throw it to you. Your concept has nothing to do with said Mod/issue.

Where I work, there are customers who are like this. They prefer to see a particular employee of my company. I can understand that. And they also prefer particular employees from my company that they do not want to see. And I understand that also.
On the other side of the coin, there are certain customers that our employees do not want to see. I understand that also.


Again, it doesn't correlate with said Mod & issue.


For the employees that a customer prefers to see, we try to accomodate them. If they need help in a hurry, they'll have to take who we send if they want to. If they don't want a particular employee and they need help in a hurry, they'll have to either wait or call someone else. That is their preference. We try to accomodate expectations to an extent. And those that our employees don't choose to see, we amongst ourselves work it out without having problems.

So would it be fair to say, that this same concept should be applied online to those whom are in a position to help and thus should accommodate those who seek their help? And do so to the best of their ability, rather than deliberately ignoring them/shoving them aside and helping others. Regardless, if they're asked again for help by those they deliberately ignored.
Or are you saying that Mods who choose to volunteer on a website, should be able pick & choose who they want to help and piss on those they don't want to?
You can *personally* feel the Mod is at fault. But you have options.
That is, unless, *He* is the only Mod that can help you.
If *He* can only help you because of *personal choice*, you have a problem.
He was the Mod @ that time that was contacted. He was the Mod that choose to read said PM help & ignore giving help all together. I never stated he was the only personal choice, did I? Time and again, your making excuses for him as others have done. Stop it.None of what you put forth, excuses his actions and disrespect toward said members.
I'll stick my neck out and assume that Mods have favourites and non-favourites and can arrange their help like we do for the company I work for.
Therein lies the problem in this community. Favoritism. If the owners wanted their board run like such & some members treated kindly while others disrespected. They wouldn't need Mods. Would they?

They are just volunteers. Doesn't mean they are totally indebted to all aspects and persons of this site.


Yet again, They choose to be Mods to help. No one said they have to be totally indebted to anyone. However, it also doesn't excuse the deliberate disrespect and ignoring of certain members while others receive help. One should NOT volunteer if they're NOT willing to help!


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You would know all too well about "favoritism" heh WM? I guess you have your panties in a bunch now because you no longer enjoy the same treatment of "favoritism" that you enjoyed on ASPD. Give it a rest as it is getting old listening to all of the whining.
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Wrong sir, I've received no such favoritism treatment on any board and don't appreciate said accusation. And presenting an issue is not whining. Surely you would know the difference.
Now if you have something regarding the issue *topic*, please share. Otherwise refrain from makings false accusations in my direction. Much appreciated.



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You would know all too well about "favoritism" heh WM? I guess you have your panties in a bunch now because you no longer enjoy the same treatment of "favoritism" that you enjoyed on ASPD. Give it a rest as it is getting old listening to all of the whining.
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Wrong sir, I've received no such favoritism treatment on any board and don't appreciate said accusation. And presenting an issue is not whining. Surely you would know the difference.
Now if you have something regarding the issue *topic*, please share. Otherwise refrain from makings false accusations in my direction. Much appreciated.

It is a known fact that you enjoyed favoritism from a certain Mod on Aspd and for you to try and deny it is ludicrious. And yeah I do recognize whining when I see it. You did not get an answer and most likely will never get an answer so you decided to bring it to an open forum. Not getting the kind of responses you wanted?
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I believe Ms.PrittiKitti posted that Mokoa addressed HER issue...did anyone see that? (lol)

Poor Amaya getting all caught up in all this DRAMA! Sometimes, the so called HELP someone gives you...isn't always in your best interest nor GOOD for you!
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Post #51 Likinikki

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surprised this thread is still alive & kicking.

(and i still havent read the entire thing)
but i just wanted to say that "ive" noticed a change.

thanks for the PM mokoa.
as i mentioned, it was completely unexpected but definately appreciated!!

happy st pattys day all.
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Yes, he addressed HER issue (from a previous thread). However, you fail to realize that the issue presented in this thread is NOT about her. As noted earlier. Even though she too had similar issues. And it's nice to hear he's dealt with them where she's concerned. However, he has other members he needs to follow up with as well. And has not done so.

While the so called HELP you speak of, may not always the best. It's the respect of putting forth an effort to help those who seek it, That counts.


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I believe Ms.PrittiKitti posted that Mokoa addressed HER issue...did anyone see that? (lol)

Poor Amaya getting all caught up in all this DRAMA! Sometimes, the so called HELP someone gives you...isn't always in your best interest

OneHotMale,
Your so called known facts are nothing more than false fabrications.
They're unwarranted. And as stated before. Refrain from making said allegations unless you have solid proof.

This thread is NOT about folks who hate or dislike WM! Take it elsewhere!
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LEAVE MOKOA ALONE!!
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It is a known fact that you enjoyed favoritism from a certain Mod on Aspd and for you to try and deny it is ludicrious. And yeah I do recognize whining when I see it. You did not get an answer and most likely will never get an answer so you decided to bring it to an open forum. Not getting the kind of responses you wanted?
just say Ck No need to beat around the bush...lol and if she likes his cookin better than this one then she should stay exclusively at that taco stand on the internets ... its up and running isn't it?

The Management has spoken and you not going to get what you want mrs milf... so move one. GTFO... or what ever it is that can penetrate your psyche...
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