The reality of high-end escorting

[Laurentius]

Originally Posted by FatBastard

Regarding High End Providers.....just because you pay more, doesn't mean you get more nor that it is better. Class, style, character, performance are not always included in the price.

I have been very lucky in the hobby in that every woman I have seen in the hobby, ranging in advertised price from $200 to $4500, has been really great. With just a couple of exceptions where I didn't know what I was doing.

Let me tell you where the difference lies from my perspective. The HDHs, for lack of a better description, specialize in something heavier, deeper, more thorough. It is more of a relationship, more complete. It encompasses more outside of sessions in terms of mutual interests and things like that. You'll get a card from an HDH referencing your offspring, everything is real names, etc. It can be more difficult to distinguish between that and a real relationship. In fact, to some degree, it IS a real relationship.

In terms of a purely sexual level, it isn't any different or superior physically in most cases. And there is no difference between physical beauty or intellect, etc. The real difference lies in long-term intensity.

[Naomi4u]

Originally Posted by Laurentius

I have been very lucky in the hobby in that every woman I have seen in the hobby, ranging in advertised price from $200 to $4500, has been really great. With just a couple of exceptions where I didn't know what I was doing.

Let me tell you where the difference lies from my perspective. The HDHs, for lack of a better description, specialize in something heavier, deeper, more thorough. It is more of a relationship, more complete. It encompasses more outside of sessions in terms of mutual interests and things like that. You'll get a card from an HDH referencing your offspring, everything is real names, etc. It can be more difficult to distinguish between that and a real relationship. In fact, to some degree, it IS a real relationship.

In terms of a purely sexual level, it isn't any different or superior physically in most cases. And there is no difference between physical beauty or intellect, etc. The real difference lies in long-term intensity.

Well damn maybe I need to raise my "honorarium". lol.

[discreetgent]

Originally Posted by Laurentius

In terms of a purely sexual level, it isn't any different or superior physically in most cases. And there is no difference between physical beauty or intellect, etc. The real difference lies in long-term intensity.

I am very lucky in that I have never had a sub-par experience. I would disagree with the purely sexual not being any different with an HDH where it has become more of a long term arrangement. First, I have found that the sexual intensity tends to be higher AND the willingness of both parties to experiment sexually, to go out of their comfort zone greatly increases as well. In a sense variety now exists with the same lady as opposed to seeing many gals.

[Laurentius]

Originally Posted by discreetgent

I am very lucky in that I have never had a sub-par experience. I would disagree with the purely sexual not being any different with an HDH where it has become more of a long term arrangement. First, I have found that the sexual intensity tends to be higher AND the willingness of both parties to experiment sexually, to go out of their comfort zone greatly increases as well. In a sense variety now exists with the same lady as opposed to seeing many gals.

There is a certain trust factor involved to be sure; and the greater level of trust by its very nature adds quality and depth to the experience, I agree.

That having been said, HDH IMHO is an attitude, not a price point -- and I have experienced similar things with ladies under $500.

It is more common with ladies over that price point, though, because their lower interaction bandwidth.

[Guest053011]

Originally Posted by Laurentius

There is a certain trust factor involved to be sure; and the greater level of trust by its very nature adds quality and depth to the experience, I agree.

That having been said, HDH IMHO is an attitude, not a price point -- and I have experienced similar things with ladies under $500.

It is more common with ladies over that price point, though, because their lower interaction bandwidth.

Each individual interaction takes emotional energy out of you, even when it's a shallow physical booty call. The more people you meet, the more you are spread thin.

Whereas when you see few people more often, you build trust, familiarity, and friendship. So there is more intellectial and emotional energy availabe to invest.

[Guest083011]

Originally Posted by Lauren Summerhill

Whereas when you see few people more often, you build trust, familiarity, and friendship. So there is more intellectial and emotional energy availabe to invest.

So true.

[Laurentius]

Originally Posted by Lauren Summerhill

Each individual interaction takes emotional energy out of you, even when it's a shallow physical booty call. The more people you meet, the more you are spread thin.

Whereas when you see few people more often, you build trust, familiarity, and friendship. So there is more intellectial and emotional energy availabe to invest.

Beautiful, and very true. We all have a limited capacity for emotional investment in others.

Just as some providers who make their living on volume can still maintain important relationships with SOs, they are often able to maintain a different level of relationship with a couple of clients. I know, because this has happened with me. So to that extent, on a limited basis, some ladies who don't charge much can still fill that space to a degree.

And there are some ladies who don't charge much, but are very selective about clients and low volume. This describes one of the ladies I saw early on for a long time. She was a lawyer during the day and didn't do it for income.

So I don't believe that rates are as much a factor as volume; and the two aren't always inversely proportional. However, in the main, the relation DOES apply.

[pjorourke]

Originally Posted by Laurentius

That having been said, HDH IMHO is an attitude, not a price point -- and I have experienced similar things with ladies under $500.

Word!

[Naomi4u]

Originally Posted by Laurentius

Beautiful, and very true. We all have a limited capacity for emotional investment in others.

Just as some providers who make their living on volume can still maintain important relationships with SOs, they are often able to maintain a different level of relationship with a couple of clients. I know, because this has happened with me. So to that extent, on a limited basis, some ladies who don't charge much can still fill that space to a degree.

And there are some ladies who don't charge much, but are very selective about clients and low volume. This describes one of the ladies I saw early on for a long time. She was a lawyer during the day and didn't do it for income.

So I don't believe that rates are as much a factor as volume; and the two aren't always inversely proportional. However, in the main, the relation DOES apply.

Exactly.

[pjorourke]

Originally Posted by Laurentius

And there are some ladies who don't charge much, but are very selective about clients and low volume. This describes one of the ladies I saw early on for a long time. She was a lawyer during the day and didn't do it for income.

Insert all of the expected jokes.

[atlcomedy]

Originally Posted by Laurentius

" I'm marketing to a certain income bracket, not trying to make as much money as possible."

Wouldn't it be more straightforward to simply state on your website that you are only interested in men with an income > $X and interested in an ongoing arrangement?

I have no idea what $X is; but let's assume that it is substantially more than I make.

Even so, I could afford your rates several times a year, especially if you were the only provider I saw. (75% of my time hobbying was with just one woman. Unfortunately, that "one woman" often moved, retired, etc. and had to be replaced until I just gave up on the "one woman" scenario. Now I use a pool of three, which gives greater stability. Even so, I end up with 2 new sex partners every year.)

So wouldn't that be a failure in your rate system to remove someone from the pool with whom you would prefer not to be intimate? If you'd simply list what $X is, and it were greater than my income, I would self-deselect even if your rates were within my scope. The self-deselection would serve to guarantee a pool more compatible with your mate-choice preferences.

An interesting notion...would the guys self select...or would she actually try to verify income???

And for the blowhard (liar) fellows that embelish their income, would that be a feather in their cap? e.g. "I saw a hooker that advertises she only see men that make X!"

Originally Posted by davidsmith0123

It can't be a hard threshold; it is really something like a disposable income threshold, or a money-for-the-hobby threshold, and these are related to preferences as well as to annual income. Some clients with the same income are willing to spend a larger fraction of that income on their hobby. I am sure the hourly rate and other aspects make it fairly clear to potential customers if they are willing and able to become a client.

Yes, disposable income is much better as measure

Originally Posted by FatBastard

I had an arrangement one time with a provider who wanted everything in writing - a contract. So, I played around with her on this idea. She drew it up and it was very detailed and explicit. What we would do, how often, where, etc. The whole time I was just cracking up. Often we would run across a situation and I would say we need to address that in the contract. I just wanted to keep it light and say...I'll will give you X per month and you take care of me. She wanted a contract. Well, it just didn't work out....she did not like being held to the terms of the contract that she wanted and drew up. So, I think it's always best to settle up each time.

Isn't a contract for illegal activity invalid anyway?

Originally Posted by pjorourke

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[charlestudor2005]

Originally Posted by Laurentius

She was a lawyer

Originally Posted by pjorourke

Insert all of the expected jokes.

If she was a blond, the pool of jokes is much higher.

[London Rayne]

Originally Posted by pjorourke

Word!

Stop using my line!! I am suprised this thread has gone as smoothly as it has lol. Must be that time of year.

So are there any guys here who DON"T need all the fluff of a relationship to have a good time lol. If so, that's why I am here. Sure I have "friends" in the hobby but I don't exactly email them when the mortgage is due lol. Some days I want raunchy bcd, and others I want a more intimate date...still has nothing to do with price or volume. I am low volume because I don't see locals, and am not available lol.

If you don't want volume, simply pass on a few dates...it's not rocket science. I see 2 people a week in my local area if that, and I tend to have regulars in every city I visit. Still, I prefer meeting NEW people.

[Guest083011]

Originally Posted by London Rayne

Some days I want raunchy bcd, and others I want a more intimate date... Still, I prefer meeting NEW people.

I'm in love/lust!!!

[discreetgent]

Originally Posted by SR Only

I'm in love/lust!!!

You say that to all the gals heh