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Old 01-24-2012, 11:35 AM   #61
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Ok, Mr. Black and White – not – yes you are. As usual you are wrong because you bend the truth to benefit your distorted view of the events. He retired in 1999, but he retained emeritus (new word for the day) status with Penn State and maintained an office and unfretted access to the football program and the university despite being a known sex offender. Here’s the Wiki. Look under the Media Attention Section.

it up.
Right here is another of your lies. He no longer worked for Paterno.




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Point A: What “truth” are you referring to? The truth that for nine years he worked with a child molester and did nothing but tell his boss? .

That is another lie.

Sandusky retired in 1999. Do you understand wtf that means? If not, it means that in 2002 he was not working for Joe. Joe had no control over him.

So when his assistant told him a water down version of what happened, Joe reported it to his boss.

You lack of knowledge on the actual facts of the case is frightening in lieu of how you post things as fact.
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:40 AM   #62
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Default I equate you with these stupid SOB because you have no respect for the dead

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church

Ya'll come on a thread where you did not have to. Just like these idiots come to a funeral that were not asked to attend. Ya'll are no different that these idiots.

It is your choice to show no class.

That is how you are viewed or it should be.

You have a thread to spew your hate.



Be proud folks. You have others just like you!


Funeral pickets

The group came into the national spotlight in 1998, when it was featured on CNN for picketing the funeral of Matthew Shepard, a young man from Wyoming who was beaten to death by two men because of his homosexuality.[28] Since then, the church has attracted attention for many more actual and planned funeral pickets.[29][30][31][32][33][34]
In July 2005, the Westboro Baptist Church declared its intention to picket the memorial service of Carrie French in Boise, Idaho. French, 19, was killed on June 5 in Kirkuk, Iraq, where she served as an ammunition specialist with the 116th Brigade Combat Team's 145th Support Battalion. Phelps Sr. said, "Our attitude toward what's happening with the war is the Lord is punishing this evil nation for abandoning all moral imperatives that are worth a dime."[35]
In 2006, Westboro picketed with banners saying "God hates fags" and "Thank God for dead soldiers" at the Westminster, Maryland, funeral of Matthew Snyder, a U.S. Marine who was also killed in Iraq.[36] Ruling on a subsequent lawsuit filed by Snyder's father, Albert Snyder, the U.S. Supreme Court decided 8–1 that Westboro's actions constituted protected free speech.[37]
On February 2, 2008, the group picketed during the funeral of former LDS Church president Gordon B. Hinckley in Salt Lake City, Utah, displaying picket signs intended to criticize him for being a "lying false prophet" and "leading millions of people astray".[38] The organization also criticized Hinckley for being too accepting of gay people, accusing him of having an ambiguous voice about homosexuality rather than taking a firm stand against it.[39] Police had difficulty determining whether the demonstration met the guidelines of protected free speech.[38]
Westboro picketed the funeral of recording artist Michael Jackson after his death on June 25, 2009.[40][41] Members of Westboro have also recorded a song titled "God Hates the World", an adaptation of Jackson's charity single "We Are the World".[42]
In May 2010, Westboro picketed the funeral of heavy metal singer Ronnie James Dio in Los Angeles.[43]
In January 2011, Westboro announced that they would picket the funeral of Christina Green, a 9-year-old victim of the 2011 Tucson shooting. In response, the Arizona legislature passed an emergency bill to ban protests within 300 feet of a funeral service, and Tucson residents made plans to shield the funeral from protesters.[44][45] The church canceled plans to hold a protest during the memorial at the University of Arizona in exchange for air time on radio talk shows.[46] According to university officials, between 700 and 1,200 students amassed to counter four WBC picketers who appeared at the campus after the event.[47]
On October 5, 2011, Fred Phelps' daughter, Margie, announced via her Twitter account that the church would be picketing Apple Inc. founder Steve Jobs' funeral.[48][49] CBS News and The Washington Post noted the irony in the fact that Margie used an iPhone to make the tweet announcement.[49][50]
Protests against Jewish institutions


A protest against Jews, held by the Westboro Baptist Church.


In 1996 Phelps led a protest at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C., proclaiming:
Whatever righteous cause the Jewish victims of the 1930s–40s Nazi Holocaust had, (probably minuscule, compared to the Jewish Holocausts against Middle Passage Blacks, African Americans and Christians—including the bloody persecution of Westboro Baptist Church by Topeka Jews in the 1990s), has been drowned in sodomite semen. American taxpayers are financing this unholy monument to Jewish mendacity and greed and to filthy fag lust. Homosexuals and Jews dominated Nazi Germany ... The Jews now wander the earth despised, smitten with moral and spiritual blindness by a divine judicial stroke ... And God has smitten Jews with a certain unique madness ... Jews, thus perverted, out of all proportion to their numbers energize the militant sodomite agenda... Jews are the real Nazis.[51]
WBC was present at a 2002 Holocaust memorial dedication in Topeka, proclaiming "God Hates Reform Judaism".[52]
On May 8, 2009, members of the church protested at three Jewish sites in Washington, D.C., including the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) offices, the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum and the city's largest synagogue. Margie Phelps, daughter of Pastor Fred Phelps, led the protest, holding signs stating that "God Hates Israel", "Jews Killed Jesus", "America Is Doomed", "Israel Is Doomed", and "ADL Jew Bullies". The protest was apparently part of a series of upcoming protests which the church has planned at Jewish institutions in Omaha, St. Louis, South Florida and Providence. The group reportedly posted a list of the upcoming protests' locations and dates, along with the statement "Jews Killed the Lord Jesus."[53]
In an interview, Margie Phelps said that her church was targeting the American Jewish community because church members had "testified" to gentiles for 19 years that "America is doomed" and that "Now it's too late. We're done with them." Phelps also claimed Jews were "one of the loudest voices" in favor of homosexuality and abortion and that "[Jews] claim to be God's chosen people. Do you think that God is going to wink at that forever?" Phelps concluded by stating, in an apparent reference to the Book of Revelation, that all the nations of the world
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:43 AM   #63
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I don't hate Joe Paterno and have no lies to tell so I have nothing to contribute to the other thread. You might question my contribution to this thread but this ain't no funeral - it's a SHMB. I recall far worse being said on aspd back when Teddy Kennedy passed.

My sympathy to the family and people who actually knew him. To everyone else, please drop the "We are Penn State" stuff.
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:45 AM   #64
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I don't hate Joe Paterno and have no lies to tell so I have nothing to contribute to the other thread.
That hasn't stopped you from contributing nothing to this thread.

An RIP thread does not call for negativity of the dead.
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:47 AM   #65
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church

Ya'll come on a thread where you did not have to. Just like these idiots come to a funeral that were not asked to attend. Ya'll are no different that these idiots.

It is your choice to show no class.

That is how you are viewed or it should be.
you are losing it dude, get help while you can still drive yourself
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I said work with not for. He still held an honorary title and offices at the university.

So, yet again, I have to beg off from another ridiculous conversation with you. No, you've not won; I'm just tired of hitting my head against the wall in a discussion that is secondary to your high self regard. Peace.
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:52 AM   #67
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you are losing it dude, get help while you can still drive yourself
Is your life a total loss?

Who do you blame?

Or have you picked up the pieces and moved on?

Bad things happen in the world.

Nobody is perfect, even Paterno but all this negativity is pointless.

Or really directed at the wrong person.

He told his bosses.

They dropped the ball.

Why no anger at them?

Why on this thread?

Attention whores?

Must be wtf it is.
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:53 AM   #68
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That hasn't stopped you from contributing nothing to this thread.

An RIP thread does not call for negativity of the dead.
I only jumped in after seeing the hostile responses to anyone who wanted some balance to the obituary.
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:54 AM   #69
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Nobody is perfect, even Paterno but all this negativity is pointless.

Or really directed at the wrong person.

He told his bosses.

They dropped the ball.

Why no anger at them?



Must be wtf it is.
exactly he wasnt perfect and they all covered it up to the glory of PSU
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Old 01-24-2012, 12:04 PM   #70
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I said work with not for. He still held an honorary title and offices at the university.

So, yet again, I have to beg off from another ridiculous conversation with you. No, you've not won; I'm just tired of hitting my head against the wall in a discussion that is secondary to your high self regard. Peace.
You have no proof they worked together. In fact quite to opposite.

Paterno basically fired Sandusky.

Do you really think they worked together after that?

You always leave threads when your distortions and lies are exposed.

Next time try and stay away from protesting a RIP thread.

That was the jest of my conversation.

You seemed to be clueless as to how classless that is.
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exactly he wasnt perfect and they all covered it up to the glory of PSU
Had his bosses informed the police or CPS, then there would have been no so called cover-up.

Paterno did not cover-up anything. He promptly reported what he was told. He met all legal requirments. There has been nothing to suggest that Paterno tried to cover-up wtf happened. That is a figment of your mind, you and Olivia. I always thought you two would make a good couple. 'Two know it alls fucking' would be you Indian name.

He has already stated that with hindsight he wished he had done more. Dakota Manning has said the exact same thing. Should he give back his Medal of Honor?
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I only jumped in after seeing the hostile responses to anyone who wanted some balance to the obituary.
Balance?

It was a classless act to try and inject balance in a RIP thread.

That is why Olivia was just like the Westboro Baptist Church Protesters. Sometimes you just gotta know when to STFU.
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Had his bosses informed the police or CPS, then there would have been no so called cover-up.

Paterno did not cover-up anything. He promptly reported what he was told. He met all legal requirments. There has been nothing to suggest that Paterno tried to cover-up wtf happened. That is a figment of your mind, you and Olivia. I always thought you two would make a good couple. 'Two know it alls fucking' would be you Indian name.

He has already stated that with hindsight he wished he had done more. Dakota Manning has said the exact same thing. Should he give back his Medal of Honor?
neither you nor I have inside knowledge here...you are the admant one acting as a "know it all" but there is more to suggest he engaged in a coverup than not. you say he wished he had done more, thats a weasel way of acknowledging complicity.

and as far as me and Olivia? well thats not a bad idea and your indian name would be "treat him gingerly, the simple one touched in the head"
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Its a RIP thread on a hooker board. C'mon, do you honestly think that people aren't going to inject their opinions whether they agree with you or not?

Also, to compare Olivia or others who do not agree with you nor have the best views on JoPa to Westboro shows just how ignorant you are. Westboro goes to funerals of people who for the most part have done no wrong. Calling them names, insulting people, causing more grief for the family and friends of the deceased. People voicing their opinions on a RIP thread for JoPa on a FUCKING HOOKER BOARD is NOT the same, cannot even come close to being compared. Unless this thread is JoPa's funeral, its NOT the same.

The blame that should be placed on JoPa is that he didn't do enough. People have assumptions of other things such as: having knowledge of Sandy's molesting ways before McCleary came to him, wanting to keep it hush hush so PSU wouldn't lose money for their beloved football program, didn't want to ruin his rep or the schools rep for football reasons, etc.

I take huge offense that the kids, the real victims aren't seen as the victims anymore. Everyone is making JoPa out to be the martyr. He admitted his fault, he admitted he should've done more and he failed as a human being. He along with the others showed the US that PSU football and the school itself is more important than children being molested. YAY for Penn State!!! Yes, you are Penn State and yes, you should be embarrassed and ashamed.
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Its a RIP thread on a hooker board. C'mon, do you honestly think that people aren't going to inject their opinions whether they agree with you or not?

Also, to compare Olivia or others who do not agree with you nor have the best views on JoPa to Westboro shows just how ignorant you are. Westboro goes to mainly funerals of people who have done no wrong, calling them names, insulting people, causing more grief for the family and friends of the deceased. People voicing their opinions on a RIP thread for JoPa on a FUCKING HOOKER BOARD is NOT the same, cannot even come close to being compared.

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It is the exact same idiotic mentality

another classless post.

I think you and Olivia are exactly the same as these idiotic protesters.

Neither of you know when to just STFU.

Let people bury their dead.

You wanna post on this thread, nothing I can do to stop you but nothing you can do to stop me from comparing you to those idiots.

Be like the Pope dying and all the church haters coming on a thread talking shit. You can do it, it just shows a lack of class.
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