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Old 10-30-2019, 07:18 PM   #661
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"The National Enquirer" - thank for substantiating the source of your opinions and Hatred.
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Old 10-30-2019, 10:39 PM   #662
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Perks from China? A set of ivory chopsticks? Free mandarin lessons for her children? Tell us more!

Loans from the Kingdom? Is that the Upper Kingdom, the Middle Kingdom, or the Lower Kingdom? Or are you referring to Brookfield Asset Management?

According to the liberal New York Times, the Kushners aren't doing too well with Jared working in the White House. I don't know what your definition of corruption is, but I always figured it means using your office to increase your wealth, not diminish it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/03/n...lease.amp.html

copy NYT articles here. it has a paywall, not everyone can read it.
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Old 10-30-2019, 10:46 PM   #663
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Perks from China? A set of ivory chopsticks? Free mandarin lessons for her children? Tell us more!

Loans from the Kingdom? Is that the Upper Kingdom, the Middle Kingdom, or the Lower Kingdom? Or are you referring to Brookfield Asset Management?

According to the liberal New York Times, the Kushners aren't doing too well with Jared working in the White House. I don't know what your definition of corruption is, but I always figured it means using your office to increase your wealth, not diminish it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/03/n...lease.amp.html

Deal Gives Kushners Cash Infusion on 666 Fifth Avenue

By Charles V. Bagli and Kate Kelly

Aug. 3, 2018

In a deal that eases the financial pressure on the Kushner Companies, Brookfield Asset Management said on Friday that it had taken a 99-year lease on 666 Fifth Avenue, the troubled Midtown tower owned by the family of Donald Trump’s son-in-law.

Jared Kushner, now a top White House adviser, paid a record-setting $1.8 billion for the building in 2007, and it has been a drag on his family’s real estate company ever since.

The deal, in which Brookfield paid the rent for the entire 99-year term upfront, helps remove the family’s biggest financial headache: a $1.4 billion mortgage on the office portion of the tower that was due in February next year. The Kushners have spent more than two years on an international search for new partners or fresh financing that stretched from the Middle East to China.

The deal would enable the Kushners to pay off at least a large portion of what they owe lenders and retain ownership of the land beneath the tower. But they may not make any money from it.

While the deal relieves some of the Kushners’ troubles, difficulties persist across their real estate empire, at least in part because of their connection to the White House. “If you do business with the Kushners, there’s a headline reality,” said Kenneth Pasternak, executive chairman of the real-estate firm KABR Group and an investing partner of the Kushner family in multiple developments. “I don’t want to say it’s a headline risk,” he added. “There’s a headline reality.”

In the 666 Fifth Avenue deal, Brookfield paid about $1.1 billion in upfront rent, according to an executive who requested anonymity because he had been briefed on the deal but was not authorized to discuss it. Charles Kushner, Jared’s father, who now runs the company, in turn, negotiated with his lenders to pay less than the company owed to satisfy the debts, the executive said.

Analysts have long said that 666 Fifth was worth less than its debts. The building was 30 percent vacant and only generated about half the annual mortgage payments. In recent months, the building’s largest remaining tenant, Millennium Management, signaled that it too planned to leave.

A spokeswoman for Kushner Companies declined to comment on the Brookfield deal.

The purchase of the aluminum-clad tower was intended to vault the Kushners into the top ranks of New York real estate from their perch in New Jersey, where they were known for a huge portfolio of garden apartment complexes. They moved their company headquarters to 666 Fifth, from where they presided over a new and rapidly expanding empire that included former industrial buildings in Brooklyn, apartments in Maryland and development sites in Jersey City, N.J.

But they ran into trouble almost immediately. They were unable to get the office rents they expected in 2007, making it difficult to pay the initial $1.75 billion debt on the building. Then the recession hit.

Jared and Charles Kushner sold 666 Fifth’s most valuable asset — the Fifth Avenue retail space — for $525 million and used the proceeds to pay down some of their debt. But office rents continued to fall and two of the tower’s biggest tenants left.

That forced the Kushners to restructure their loans, and Vornado Realty Trust bought a 49.5 percent stake in the office space and gave the Kushners an $80 million high-interest loan. Vornado later bought the retail space from separate owners.

In 2016, Charles and Jared Kushner pitched a new deal to investors in the United States and abroad: They would demolish the building and erect a $7.5 billion luxury supertower in its place. They got close to a deal with a billionaire from Qatar, Hamad Jassim Al-Thani, the country’s former prime minister, and with Anbang, a giant Chinese insurance company.

But the deal with the Chinese collapsed amid criticism from legislators over the connection between Jared Kushner’s political role and the family business.

Earlier this year, Brookfield said it would buy a 49.5 percent stake in the office portion of 666 Fifth, although Brookfield planned to oversee renovations and management of the tower. But that deal required the Kushner Companies to pay off the mortgage on the office portion of the building and pay back Vornado.

In negotiations with his lenders, the executive familiar with the deal said, Mr. Kushner argued that 666 Fifth was not worth the $1.4 billion that was owed. He eventually worked out an agreement to pay off the debts for substantially less, according to the executive.

But they still could not secure financing, and on Friday, Brookfield, which owns and operates more than 275 office buildings worldwide, said that it had taken the 99-year lease instead. The deal was first reported by The Wall Street Journal.

Also on Friday, Vornado announced that it had sold its stake in the office portion of the building to the Kushners for $120 million.

While the deal solves a major problem for the Kushners, the company still faces challenges. Lenders continue to hesitate or retreat from doing business with the company, cowed by the scrutiny that other financial partners have received.

Early this year, the French bank Natixis, which had lent hundreds of millions of dollars to Kushner Companies before Mr. Trump’s inauguration, abruptly canceled plans to provide a roughly $200 million new loan to 65 Bay Street, an upscale apartment building in Jersey City, in which the Kushners and KABR were partners. The withdrawal was a surprise, said Mr. Pasternak, the KABR executive chairman. “They backed out late,” said Mr. Pasternak, who declined to provide further details.

In a statement, Natixis said that while it had done deals with Kushner Companies between 2013 and 2016, it “no longer has any exposure or active business relationship with Kushner Companies.” Officials there declined to comment on the Jersey City transaction.
Natixis was quickly replaced in the 65 Bay Street deal by Citigroup.

But even there, senior executives are now reassessing their involvement with the Kushner firm, say two people with knowledge of the discussions, given the blowback they have received over recent deals with the company.

A loan Citigroup made to the Kushners after its chief executive, Michael Corbat, met with Jared Kushner at the White House last year raised questions about potential conflicts of interest between Citigroup’s policy agenda and its willingness to lend to Mr. Kushner’s family business. Shortly after The New York Times wrote about the meeting that preceded the loan, Elizabeth Warren and other Senate Democrats suggested that the confluence of the meeting and the loan might constitute a federal ethics violation on Mr. Kushner’s part. Ms. Warren and her colleagues have sought additional information.

Danielle Romero-Apsilos, a Citigroup spokeswoman, has said that Kushner Companies is a longtime client of the bank, that the meeting Mr. Corbat had with Mr. Kushner had no connection to the loan made shortly afterward and that every deal is analyzed on a case-by-case basis.

Chris Taylor, a spokeswoman for Kushner Companies, said, “It is very well known in the marketplace that Natixis is a very unreliable lender. Kushner has a strong relationship with Citi for decades and continues to have a very close relationship.”

At 666 Fifth Avenue, Brookfield is betting on a turnaround based on the building’s premier location on Fifth Avenue, near Rockefeller Center and Central Park, and its access to public transportation. The company plans to spend about $700 million renovating the lobby, installing new elevators, refurbishing the vacant office space and attracting new tenants.

“666 Fifth Avenue has the potential to be one of New York City’s most iconic and successful office properties,” Ric Clark, chairman of Brookfield Property Group, said in a statement Friday. “Given Brookfield’s experience in successfully redeveloping and repositioning major office assets in New York and other cities around the world, we are well placed to capitalize on that opportunity.”

Brookfield is one of the world’s biggest real estate companies, and among its investors is the Qatar Investment Authority, one of the world’s largest sovereign funds, which bought a $1.8 billion stake in one of the company’s subsidiaries, Brookfield Property Partners in 2014, and is the second-largest investor in the company, ranking only behind Brookfield Asset Management. That has raised questions given Jared Kushner’s portfolio in the White House, which includes the Middle East.

Brookfield has said that the Qataris had no knowledge of the deal before its public announcement.

Aurelien Breeden contributed reporting from Paris.

A version of this article appears in print on Aug. 4, 2018, Section A, Page 16 of the New York edition with the headline: Kushners Get Relief With Lease Deal on Troubled Office Tower.
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Perks from China? A set of ivory chopsticks? Free mandarin lessons for her children? Tell us more!

Loans from the Kingdom? Is that the Upper Kingdom, the Middle Kingdom, or the Lower Kingdom? Or are you referring to Brookfield Asset Management?

According to the liberal New York Times, the Kushners aren't doing too well with Jared working in the White House. I don't know what your definition of corruption is, but I always figured it means using your office to increase your wealth, not diminish it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/03/n...lease.amp.html

strange deal. 99 year lease? Kushners can't make profit on it?


so, they bought an over-priced building not worth its 1 billion value.


looks like JK got snookered.
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Old 10-31-2019, 12:12 AM   #665
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strange deal. 99 year lease? Kushners can't make profit on it?


so, they bought an over-priced building not worth its 1 billion value.


looks like JK got snookered.
You don't know much about commercial real estate.

Highly cyclical industry. They bought this property at the peak of the market (2007). It might have been worth what they paid then, but not after the economy crashed a year later. Timing is everything.
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Old 10-31-2019, 12:15 AM   #666
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You don't know much about commercial real estate.

Highly cyclical industry. They bought this property at the peak of the market (2007). It might have been worth what they paid then, but not after the economy crashed a year later. Timing is everything.

I may not know it, but its still a strange deal.
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Old 10-31-2019, 01:54 AM   #667
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. DONALD TRUMP'S OWN FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY OFFICIALS SIGN OPEN LETTER SAYING UKRAINE WHISTLEBLOWER DID NOTHING WRONG AND DESERVES PROTECTION

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...-1463494?amp=1
Attacking the whistleblower was just as cowardly as abandoning our military allies on the battlefield in the Middle East. Draft dodging Donny and his motley crew will more than likely walk those personal attacks back to avoid fallout and attracting more unwanted attention.
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Old 10-31-2019, 02:10 AM   #668
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pressing a foreign power to prosecute his political opponent. This is unlawful,
This is more of your complete nonsense...how the fuck does a foreign power prosecute one's political opponent in the US...this is industrial strength STUPID. I expect nothing less from you!!
P.S. That TDS is eating what little brain you have left.
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Old 10-31-2019, 04:53 AM   #669
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Attacking the whistleblower was just as cowardly as abandoning our military allies on the battlefield in the Middle East. Draft dodging Donny and his motley crew will more than likely walk those personal attacks back to avoid fallout and attracting more unwanted attention.
Would you care to cite Slick Willie, hildebeest's or Odumbo's service record. jackass.

Trump just took out ISIS's number one and number two and silenced the ISIS spokesman to boot! No one was fuckin' abandoned except when your mother left you in a dumpster back in the day.

BTW, jackass, Turkey is an ally as well.
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. White House national security official testifying in impeachment inquiry to step down soon

Tim Morrison, the top Russia and Europe adviser on President Donald Trump's National Security Council, is expected to provide one of the most revelatory testimonies to date in the House Democrat led impeachment inquiry on Thursday, one day after it became clear he will soon be leaving his job.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/30/polit...use/index.html
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. is expected to provide one of the most revelatory testimonies to date in the House Democrat led impeachment inquiry on Thursday, one day after it became clear he will soon be leaving his job.

Citing CNNs prediction of an alert/bombshell/revelation is about as dumb as dumb gets. Well... your present company excepted, of course.
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Inquiry = more INVESTIGATIONS now into the possible impeachment investigation vote
What , they have not even started why are they waiting ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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speaking of bombshells.


looks like ricks cabaret opened a breastraunt "bombshells"



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heres another bombshell....


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House approves advancement of the fat lying bastards Impeachment Probe

Poor little trumptard party will have some bad Pussy burn now.

I’m thinking of buying Vagisil stock. It will be flying off the shelves
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