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Old 07-24-2013, 02:15 PM   #46
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For us seasoned veterans, most of us have found 3-4 ATFs over the years and have established a great working relationship, to the point that any type of session is available and the clock is not a factor whatsoever.. Yes, providers have their favorite clients too. Chemistry, repect, long term provider/client relationships, whatever.. The more you see a provider on a regular basis, the more comfortable they feel with you, and if you click or have a lot in common with them, stick with it.. Its worth it in the long run.. I guess its part of getting older for me too.. 15 years ago, I was all over the place with different providers.
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Old 07-24-2013, 02:22 PM   #47
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When I'm in Dallas, I offer half hours. I don't mind them one bit.....EXCEPT if someone takes advantage of a half hour and trys to stay the hour..paying the half hour ;(
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Old 07-25-2013, 12:03 PM   #48
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eva,

thx for taking the time to explain your thoughts and ideas.
reading thru your very well written post, it doesnt read like you meant that "a woman who offers 1/2 hr appts is equivalent to one who walks the streets or does car dates."

to me, it reads like you have your reasons for preferring hr or longer appts, which i now understand a bit better.
as you said, "a provider determines her preferences based on needs." which i support.

and hopefully you understood that i wasnt asking for or making a comparison between the different kinds of appts and women.
i was just wondering how you saw them as equivalent, perhaps it was just the 30mins and nothing more.

again, thx for your thoughts.
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Well, being that whether you're a SW strictly doing car dates, escort on BP, or provider here strictly on ECCIE and P411, we ARE all technically the same - we are all providers, right? Is that not a well-built commonality within it self - much less the exact same thing? Tomayto - tomahto .

The issue that would separate me from those who partake in car dates or SWing is TIME, and my target market (some ladies could use a lesson on this). And, most importantly, what I am comfortable with to run my business to ensure superior performances each, and every time. Unfortunately for some, 30 Minutes usually is not sufficient time for me to even get to sexually mind fuck a guy (i.e chemisty ) before things get more "physical".

Throwing in the word "logic" really has no place in my disdain for hh. The word "comfort" fits better being this is not math or subjects of concrete fact, it's pure theory for a ladies own business. What you seem to not understand is the comfort in my preference for hour + dates and discomfort of hh:

A) 30 min sessions don't cut it financial FOR ME and my business, so I prefer to remain "low volume"

B) FOR ME and my experience, 30 minute sessions are best left reserved for those who've invested in me, aka long-term play pals. It's a loyalty thing - for me , that is.

C) For me and my experience in the business, "NON-RUSH" dates are loved by hobbyists

D) My preferred Target Market

... I could go on, but you get the idea - a provider determines her preferences based on needs. If hh work for her, great! They are great for me as well when offered, but too many times that 30 minutes goes to 45 minutes ...

Please, do not attempt to make it seem I implied one is better than the other in general for each provider. Hell, I offer 30 minute sessions too, but rarely. Bottom line, just not my style.
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Old 07-25-2013, 11:22 PM   #49
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Well, being that whether you're a SW strictly doing car dates, escort on BP, or provider here strictly on ECCIE and P411, we ARE all technically the same - we are all providers, right? Is that not a well-built commonality within it self - much less the exact same thing? Tomayto - tomahto .

The issue that would separate me from those who partake in car dates or SWing is TIME, and my target market (some ladies could use a lesson on this). And, most importantly, what I am comfortable with to run my business to ensure superior performances each, and every time. Unfortunately for some, 30 Minutes usually is not sufficient time for me to even get to sexually mind fuck a guy (i.e chemisty ) before things get more "physical".

Throwing in the word "logic" really has no place in my disdain for hh. The word "comfort" fits better being this is not math or subjects of concrete fact, it's pure theory for a ladies own business. What you seem to not understand is the comfort in my preference for hour + dates and discomfort of hh:

A) 30 min sessions don't cut it financial FOR ME and my business, so I prefer to remain "low volume"

B) FOR ME and my experience, 30 minute sessions are best left reserved for those who've invested in me, aka long-term play pals. It's a loyalty thing - for me , that is.

C) For me and my experience in the business, "NON-RUSH" dates are loved by hobbyists

D) My preferred Target Market

... I could go on, but you get the idea - a provider determines her preferences based on needs. If hh work for her, great! They are great for me as well when offered, but too many times that 30 minutes goes to 45 minutes ...

Please, do not attempt to make it seem I implied one is better than the other in general for each provider. Hell, I offer 30 minute sessions too, but rarely. Bottom line, just not my style.
It's funny. As I look at your reviews, I notice that none of them say anything about MSOG (at least not in the 'activities' portion). Maybe you offer this service, but to the naked eye, there's no proof that you do (don't have PA at the moment). For some guys, if MSOG isn't offered, there's no point in going for an hour, especially if they can be done in 30 minutes or less. At a certain point it becomes a diminishing investment. Why should I or anyone have to see you for an hour because of the money YOU want to make (I know...the easy answer is to not see you. The question is rhetorical). I avoid clubs that have a two-drink minimum.

That'll be kinda like renting a room for a week, but only staying 2 days, or leasing a car for 6 months, but only driving it a month and a half. For us guys, after a while, we've got to start looking at how we invest our hard earned money in this game...unless you're one of those that are made of money and don't care.

Of course, your business is yours to run as you see fit. I'm only retorting this post because of the way you basically slam those that like and use 30 min sessions.
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Old 07-25-2013, 11:42 PM   #50
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30 min sessions can be fun depending on the situation. I try my best to accommodate my hobbyists and consider that they would know their financial, physical, and time restrictions better than I ... I'd rather have a happy repeat than try to get rich off one session ... And I agree gfe is just better all around ...
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:25 AM   #51
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Well, that depends in great deal what the guy is looking for from the session. Lot of difference between wanting sex with a hot lady and wanting a compainion for an hour. For one, a half hour may be just fine. For the other, 1 hour may not be enough.
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It's funny. As I look at your reviews, I notice that none of them say anything about MSOG (at least not in the 'activities' portion). Maybe you offer this service, but to the naked eye, there's no proof that you do (don't have PA at the moment). For some guys, if MSOG isn't offered, there's no point in going for an hour, especially if they can be done in 30 minutes or less. At a certain point it becomes a diminishing investment. Why should I or anyone have to see you for an hour because of the money YOU want to make (I know...the easy answer is to not see you. The question is rhetorical). I avoid clubs that have a two-drink minimum.

That'll be kinda like renting a room for a week, but only staying 2 days, or leasing a car for 6 months, but only driving it a month and a half. For us guys, after a while, we've got to start looking at how we invest our hard earned money in this game...unless you're one of those that are made of money and don't care.

Of course, your business is yours to run as you see fit. I'm only retorting this post because of the way you basically slam those that like and use 30 min sessions.
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Old 07-28-2013, 05:05 PM   #52
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I like to schedule half-hours for first-time visits with a provider. After researching her, I'm only scheduling to find out if we're as compatible as I think we are. If the first half-hour goes well, then we'll have many more visits. I figure if a provider offers HH, she'll charge what it's worth to her. I'm not saying I won't schedule an hour the first time, but I'd rather not. It's kinda tedious on the hobbyist, at least it is for Gonzo, to schedule and pay for a full hour and be gone after 20-25 mins. It's business model the AMPs have perfected.
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