Repuke Platform bans abortion....no exception for rape or incest

[Doove]

Asked and answered.

The relevant portion essentially begins at post #202.

Simply because you're willing to believe the ridiculous premise that anyone would vote to allow killing live babies, i don't expect you to grasp the reality of the matter. Nevertheless...

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...=partial+birth

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by Doove

Asked and answered.

The relevant portion essentially begins at post #202.

Simply because you're willing to believe the ridiculous premise that anyone would vote to allow killing live babies, i don't expect you to grasp the reality of the matter. Nevertheless...

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...=partial+birth

I've often been the repository of low expectations, you are adding to my
distress but in any case I will review that link when next I have an
opportunity. On a cell phone out on an oil lease and I'm not proficient. Thank you

[WTF]

Originally Posted by texasjohn1965

I'm not a "pro-lifer", but I will take a stab at it......

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[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Doove

Asked and answered.

The relevant portion essentially begins at post #202.

Simply because you're willing to believe the ridiculous premise that anyone would vote to allow killing live babies, i don't expect you to grasp the reality of the matter. Nevertheless...

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...=partial+birth

That's exactly the way Odumbo voted in Illinois, or don't you remember, Doofus?

See @:

http://www.eccie.net/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=232

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by Doove

And your correction is...?

Its in the article. Did you read it?

[Doove]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

More illegitimate word parsing by the Democratic media rape squad.

Originally Posted by Doove

And your correction is...?

Originally Posted by gnadfly

Its in the article. Did you read it?

Well that makes sense.

[gnadfly]

Its in paragraph 7.

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by Doove

Asked and answered.

The relevant portion essentially begins at post #202.

Simply because you're willing to believe the ridiculous premise that anyone would vote to allow killing live babies, i don't expect you to grasp the reality of the matter. Nevertheless...

http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?...=partial+birth

should i even bother now? have you been ensnared upon a prevarication?

[Guest050715-1]

Originally Posted by WTF

Furthermore, your side seems to never bring up in vitro fertilization. Why is that do you think. Do you think this practice should be outlawed?

http://blog.beliefnet.com/stevenwald...-in-vitro.html


Roughly 127,977, babies are killed each year through the process of in vitro fertilization — at least if one accepts the definition that discarding a fertilized embryo amounts to abortion and murder.
Pro-choice groups obviously don’t see it that way. More interesting, pro life groups do see it that way but rarely discuss in vitro fertilization either, perhaps because it’s a popular technique.

NO! Because banning in vitro fertilization would be interfering with MALE procreation not just FEMALE procreation. The anti-abortion movement is just as much, if not more so, about controlling women than it is about “saving babies”.

Originally Posted by WTF

I suggest you reread wtf Old-T posted.


All he was doing was calling attention to a linear thought process.

I went back and re-read it. I still say what he posted is how he feels about abortion. If that’s the case, then his, and people that think like him, young daughters needs to have the zygote implanted and she / they can gestate and raise the product of violence. But, if he wants to comment he can.

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

I don't want you to STFU; please tell us what Obama's position is on late term abortions and why he voted in favor of infanticide legislation ? A much more signficant moral outrage than anything the Romney kids may or may have not done....since not all in vitro procedures result in the knowingly planned destruction of embryo.

And why does the Democratic Platform support late term abortions when it is nationally condemend by most ?

Please tell us.

How many unwanted babies are you raising? None? That’s what I thought. If you aren’t willing to back up this saving babies thingie with caring for the unwanted babies or at the very least fee access to birth control for anyone, regardless of age because 12 year olds are having sex and babies, then you really need to step aside and let the people with a dog in the fight manage our own destines.

Oh, and RvW will never be overturned. That’s wishful thinking at best.

Originally Posted by Doove

If they truly thought it was murder, shouldn't they be proposing the death penalty for anyone who had an abortion? They are pro death penalty after all. But no, they wanna take the easy way out and simply argue that abortion should be illegal, rather than have the courage of their convictions and propose actual penalties for those who commit, and contract for, abortions. They realize that proposing 25 to life for an 18 year old who has an abortion would pretty much end the debate.

Well said. It would end it immediately.

[Whirlaway]

The people who should STFU and sit down are the loud mouths who jump to conclusions about what they think they know about the private lives of individuals on this board !

Back to the real subject of importance; how you can support the Democratic party whose leader supports the monsterious policy of Infanticide is beyond fathom........if that is your opinion, your so called compassion meter rests at zero, despite your professed sympathy for protecting a woman's right to choose; which in your book apprently means the right to murder a baby that survives an abortion !

Monsterous opinion by most Americans sense of decency.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by Old-T

If someone believes strongly against abortion because they consider it murder, then why would they make exceptions for rape or incest?
I actually can respect the "no rape or incest exceptions" as logically and moraly consitent.

Olivia, I made no comment about where I support abortion or not. I commented on the logical inconsistency of being anti-abortion except in certain circumstances.

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

Then you fucking gestate the product of violence and raise it. That's right; you can't. But as a man you sure can rape a woman, and as a woman, I can't rape anyone.
Calm. Take a deep breath.

And before you go any more off the deep end on this point, I do take offense to your implied generalization that all men physically can rape--and therefore are emotionally/psycologically threats to rape a woman. With that attitude, how do you manage to survive in this business?

As to "as a woman I can't rape", that is not true if you look at rape as a forced violent sexual attack on someone. Would a broom handle repeatedly shoved up the ass count as rape in your mind? If you meant you can't get someone pregnant via raping them, I agree.

This is just pure bullshit. A zygote is a zygote not a person. That is the crux of the issue, isn't it. YOU believe that way, and I know other people who I admire who also believe that way. There are good people who do not agree with this premise and who therefore will always disagree with you on this topic. Since neither view seems "provable" I suspect this issue will be a very tough impass for a long, long time.

You want the product of a father raping his child so fucking badly, you plant the zygote in your child's belly. Does that sound like a good idea to you? Let your child be fucked up in the head because she took a child to term when she was 13 and had her life destroyed.
Quit putting words in my mouth (or fingers as the case might be). Your post is what's bullshit. I have never spoken in favor of rape, or incest, and don't like your connotation that I ever have. YOU are the one who seriously misread my post and are attacking me for something I never remotely said.


That's the thing that pisses me off the most about self-righteous assholes that want to punish a girl or a woman because some violent man raped her. You place a higher value on his right to procreate and / or on the cell reproduction of a zygote over a living, sentient being who has the poor taste to be female. People like you need to either gestate and raise the zygote yourself or your child needs to. It's important after all.
It seems this is very personal to you. If it is, I am very sorry it happened. But it don't accept that something bad happening to you or someone you care about gives you the right to slander me or accuse me of comments/sentiments I never wrote. This topic is quite personal to me as well. If you want to discuss it, I will--whether we agree on all the points or not. If you want to rant your anger without reading or listening then I will file you under "raving psycho".

Originally Posted by WTF

I suggest you reread wtf Old-T posted.


All he was doing was calling attention to a linear thought process.

If it is not murder, then it should be allowed.

If it is murder, then it should not be allowed.

That was all he was pointing out.

Thank you. That was exactly my point.

Originally Posted by OliviaHoward

NO! Because banning in vitro fertilization would be interfering with MALE procreation not just FEMALE procreation. The anti-abortion movement is just as much, if not more so, about controlling women than it is about “saving babies”.
On this point I agree with you. For some men I believe the issue is about keeping women barefoot and pregnant.


I went back and re-read it. I still say what he posted is how he feels about abortion. I reread it too, and even knowing how I do feel, I can't find it in what I actually wrote. If that’s the case, then his, and people that think like him, young daughters needs to have the zygote implanted and she / they can gestate and raise the product of violence. But, if he wants to comment he can.
Since I am the shy retiering type I don't know if I will comment, but I might.

How many unwanted babies are you raising? None? That’s what I thought. If you aren’t willing to back up this saving babies thingie with caring for the unwanted babies or at the very least fee access to birth control for anyone, regardless of age because 12 year olds are having sex and babies, then you really need to step aside and let the people with a dog in the fight manage our own destines.
It can be very embarasing to post assumptions about what someone does or doesn't do unless you know them. In this instance, you do not know me or what I do. I will not discuss that part of my life in public, but if you really want to know, PM me.

[Doove]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

should i even bother now? have you been ensnared upon a prevarication?

At the risk of repeating myself, simply because you're willing to believe the ridiculous premise that anyone would vote to allow killing live babies, i don't expect you to grasp the reality of the matter.

Read it or don't. I don't really care.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

"Wise"-up, Yssup. By aligning with the Dims you are aligning with the LBGT community -- does that make you a dick sucker by proxy? You support their position so that means you must engage in the same activities, right?

Furthermore, by aligning with the Dims, you also claim you are for the common laborer; yet, you also claim to be for open borders and unrestrained immigration which displaces American citizens in the workplace: explain that counterintuitive, hypocritical position, if you can!?! Or you might try explaining how you lefties can be against implementing the death penalty against a convicted murderer; yet allow the killing of the truly innocent: an unborn child.

That's a lot of assumptions, Hankering. Do you believe in the line item veto? Do you believe in freedom of ANYTHING?

You've been listening to way too much Rush if you think that anybody who disagrees with the Republicans' position on abortion equates with tacit approval of any other platform or credo.

And anybody who continues to insist that a woman's right to choose is murder is a fucking mouthbreather. I also believe in the death penalty, except of course, in the case of legitimate murder

What if your mama had a choice? Would you be out here chasing P4P? Probably not. But at least you think people should be forced to continue populating the world against their will, just because a cheap rubber broke.

BTW -- What the fuck is wrong with the LGBT community? I am neither gay nor lesbian but I do not believe the Government (remember, you HATE the fucking government) has a right to legislate sexual preference. Yeah, I like Greek. And yeah, I like DATY. So what does that mean? I'm a Democrat? I'm a cocksucker? How utterly idiotic your statement is!

NEXT?

INFANTCIDE? Unbelievable. If I were you, bro, I'd refrain from jerking off, because that spunk you drop on the floor of the movie theater could grow up to be a Republican one day. That, too, is infantcide.

And you boys call the Jihadists extreme.

[jcase5848]

It's bad enough that the fucktard republican asswipes want to legislate away the woman's right to her body and her health but here's a nuggest I bet you didn't know: 31 states allow a rapist to file for custodial and parental rights....WHAT THE FUCK????
http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/22/opinio...hts/index.html

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

That's a lot of assumptions, Hankering. Do you believe in the line item veto? Do you believe in freedom of ANYTHING?

You've been listening to way too much Rush if you think that anybody who disagrees with the Republicans' position on abortion equates with tacit approval of any other platform or credo.

And anybody who continues to insist that a woman's right to choose is murder is a fucking mouthbreather. I also believe in the death penalty, except of course, in the case of legitimate murder

What if your mama had a choice? Would you be out here chasing P4P? Probably not. But at least you think people should be forced to continue populating the world against their will, just because a cheap rubber broke.

BTW -- What the fuck is wrong with the LGBT community? I am neither gay nor lesbian but I do not believe the Government (remember, you HATE the fucking government) has a right to legislate sexual preference. Yeah, I like Greek. And yeah, I like DATY. So what does that mean? I'm a Democrat? I'm a cocksucker? How utterly idiotic your statement is!

NEXT?

You're the one who unwisely started with unfounded assumptions and the statement you are criticizing is no more idiotic than yours, Yssup.

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Come on you bible thumping Neanderthal FUCKTARDS. Do you REALLY stand with this? REALLY? You have wonton sex with random partners. (No offense to the random partners out there) But how fucking hypocritical can you be?

BTW -- the rest of the world is PISSING THEMSELVES LAUGHING AT US! I guess we need a good Christian Republican administration to go over there and blow the shit out of them. That'll learn 'em!

YOW!

BTW, your second post -- with more assumptions -- is as idiotic as the first.