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Old 04-28-2012, 03:33 AM   #46
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Default I understand this is about ROS and not ML or PR.

I understand and just wanted to see the reply's from such a statement.

What we have here is Exploits from hobbyists that WISH they could do half the things they write about. If providers could see ROS and reply, that would eliminate all the STORY TELLING, along with activites that never took place, and in this case, the whole session never took place. We should have a confirmation of some sort, to verifiy that the session took place, and NOT give said hobbyist review credit of a review that was fabricated. (The red flag is, the provider gets a review added to her handle that never took place)

with that said: Providers are not squeeky clean either, I have seen some shady stuff from both sides. If you been on these boards for awhile, you know how to get the info you seek. wheather it's by creating a secret handle and just walk in the front door or you know of another site, or you have a G/F, Husband, Wife, etc that just lets you peek over their shoulder. where there's a will, there's a way. Question is: how do we stop the false/fabricated review part?

Eccie makes it's operating money with Ad's and reviews and when a review is made up or did not happen, just to get review credit and maybe slander a provider that you might not like in the process, Eccie losses money. So when a provider see's that she got a NEW review. She's like WTF, I never seen him, and as she reads on, she is amased at all her NEW activities. Her only recourse is CO-ED REBUTTAL? And she has to go through alot of red tape to get that false review removed. (Mean while, the hobbyist is watching and laughing because he got review credit that he didn't earn.) I wonder how many of these that are out there?

We can all rebuttal and conversate all you want but, what has changed to fix this loop hole in the system? NOTHING

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Old 04-28-2012, 05:39 AM   #47
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If even the charade of private conversations become public, what's the point of paying for Premium Access? The fact is this information ends up getting back to the aggrieved party more often than not, so why do any of you expect the owners to eliminate an income source to fix a problem that usually fixes itself?

I'm meticulous in making sure my reviews are fair and accurate, as if every review is going to be read by the lady in question. Despite that, if ever a day came when ladies were granted the right to read ROS, you can count me among the first out the door to whichever site replaces this one.

Oh, and if you think opening up ROS while keeping ML private will stop the storytelling...who are you kidding? All the storytelling on this site will simply move to the ML. Hell, that's happening to a large extent now anyway...it's just not moving to the ML.
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Old 04-28-2012, 05:40 AM   #48
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Old 04-28-2012, 06:51 AM   #49
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Oh, I hold no illusions that my individual presence on this board has any impact on its viability, but I suspect the majority of active reviewers feel the same way. Regardless of the bitching, it's the reviews that draw most of the traffic to this site.

One active reviewer leaving wouldn't matter. A mass migration would.
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Old 04-28-2012, 07:08 AM   #50
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Like TinMan and others, I hope they keep the private items private. I know private info is shared by various means but it is not visible to everyone. I get out very little, so I have no reviews. The people I have seen have plenty of reviews and sharing my experience would not really add any value. I want to contribute something other than replies to questions so I bought lifetime premium access.
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Old 04-28-2012, 08:15 AM   #51
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I'm meticulous in making sure my reviews are fair and accurate, as if every review is going to be read by the lady in question.
+1 so am i sir.
When you purchase lifetime premium access, there is NO need to write false/fake reviews. There is NO time frame in which to write them, you will never lose PA. For the price of one session, (250) you have worry free hobbying. Eccie makes their money on you up front & you can hobby when you want, w/o losing PA. And the providers should regonize this investment as a hobbyist with something to lose if he ever decides to cheat her. My reviews are so accurate, (play-by-play) that NO provider that i have seen, will ever say, THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

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I want to contribute something other than replies to questions so I bought lifetime premium access.
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I even found a way to get Lifetime Premium Access for FREE.
I even bought Lifetime Membership on P411, so you see, I am set for life, to hobby when I want and as much, or as little, as I want, with no pressure of needing a certain amount of reviews in a certain time frame or lose PA. I don't have to write FAKE reviews but, you know there are always those lowlife's that want to cheat the system and providers. And believe me, they stay up all night, looking for NEW ways to do it.

On a side note and purely speculation: IMHO, If you think a provider went through all the risk/trouble of creating a secret handle to read ROS, just to have it expire 90-days later or write fake reviews, your nuts. they purchase lifetime premium access too. lol (Those might be the ones with NO reviews. lol)

Lets NOT forget one other fact about ROS, some hobbyists send the lady a PROOF copy, including ROS, BEFORE it goes to print and is POSTED on Eccie, which is not against the rules as i understand it. Thats another way the lady can read ROS.

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Old 04-28-2012, 09:51 AM   #52
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I'm meticulous in making sure my reviews are fair and accurate, as if every review is going to be read by the lady in question. Despite that, if ever a day came when ladies were granted the right to read ROS, you can count me among the first out the door to whichever site replaces this one.
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Lets NOT forget one other fact about ROS, some hobbyists send the lady a PROOF copy, including ROS, BEFORE it goes to print and is POSTED on Eccie, which is not against the rules as i understand it. Thats another way the lady can read ROS.
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I initially paid for my access but then I decided to write reviews to help others with information. If eccie did not grant based on reviews, I would still pay for it. Per Eccie the OP of a review can release to who ever they want as long the comments from others are not included. If a provider request, or sometimes i just send them a copy of my review. Anything I write I stand behind. I dont embelish nor lie. Thus far no provider has done a rebuttal on me
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Old 04-28-2012, 10:16 AM   #53
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Gotta love the idea that enforcing rules takes effort so we should just eliminate them.

Anyone who has been around the boards knows exatly why ROS is private. Making it private gives an incentive to post reviews for credit or to buy credit, while reducing the number of train wreck threads and allowing at least some degree of honesty by reviewers.

It's bad enough writing an honest less than glowing review around here now. If you have everything out in the open only the trolls and black knights will do it. (Yes, we know the lady will likely be told by some guy trying to get in her good graces, or she will use a fake account to read them.)

Besides, 99% of the time responding to a review does not really go well for the provider.
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Old 04-28-2012, 12:16 PM   #54
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This thread drifted off into the usual territory of WK reviews and ROS/locker room leaks but in reading the OP and the link, I see her case. Not the review but a couple of posters chimed in about BBFS. Now I don't know what the truth is about that situation but I do know false claims about BBFS hurts providers and their clients, I mean I am not going there with all the other no rumor providers out there and if I have reviewed her in the past some providers might not see me . When I read Greek about a provider who tells me she doesn't do it, I think "is it me or is this guy a macho BS". I guess the worst thing is to read about a provider liking ruff sex when she is just enthusiastic invites some of our knuckle walkers to ruff her up. Come on, it is a review lighten up on the fiction.
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Old 04-28-2012, 12:37 PM   #55
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If providers ever acquire access to view ROS info, what about those reviews which are not 100% favorable but fair and accurate? Some may cry foul and state the session didn't occur. How would folks prevent that?
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