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02-27-2012, 10:22 AM
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Join Date: Jun 17, 2011
Location: Kansas City area
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I possibly would be interested. I stay a little more UTR (posting-wise) than a lot of folks on here but if I was comfortable with the final details, I would try to make it. I'm a little concerned with certain folks with an axe to grind (ex-members/providers) causing problems though. Any thoughts on that?
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02-27-2012, 11:08 AM
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#47
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Join Date: Jan 7, 2010
Location: KS
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LOL Q.....I just adore you. Thank you darlin'.
Given enough notice, I can get some help to whip up some of those Mexican things with meat in the middle of corn dough. 
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Any time you have the word "whip" in your post I get scared....but tamales sound awesome.
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02-27-2012, 11:17 AM
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Location: KS
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Originally Posted by KCQuestor
The logistics of arranging for a private venue are difficult -- no one is willing to commit to attending, and yet if we rent a space and no one shows up we are out money.
The public M&Gs were either TOO public, with people drawing a lot of attention or TOO subdued, with people complaining that nothing much happened.
The men wouldn't commit to come unless there were women confirmed. Women wouldn't commit to come unless they were assured of enough men. Catch-22, anyone?
No one could agree on when to have them. "Weekends are for family. Can't get away from the wife." "I can't go out to a party on a weeknight. I have to be at work in the morning." "The only time I am available is 9:30 on Sunday morning. How about then?"
Screening is a pain in the rear (ladies, I have some understanding for what your work entails).
When Maria and Kitten were here we talked at length about how they run them in Dallas. According to them, most M&Gs are planned by the women, which makes sense I suppose. They have the screening expertise and they know when they are available. If anyone (male or female) thinks they want to try to organize a M&G, let me know. I'm willing to share my experiences.
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I agree 100%. Total PIA to set up. In theory there should be no issues. The one's I've been involved in were simple. There was to be NO business conducted! It was exactly what the name implies. A Meet (with 2 e's) and greet. But like Q said, if you go for a private venue, someone has to put up money and their name on the event, both of which have implicit risks. If you go for a public venue, then dress and behavior become much more of an issue. And the simple fact that older men with young hot women DOES draw attention. Again, if you can deal with that attention, great. But many cannot. And if you want to remain UTR, then a public venue is NOT for you.
And then for all the effort, you're left wondering who will show. One time you get 20 guys and 2 girls. The next time you get 15 guys and 10 girls. And one guy brings a few girls that are not vetted (even though he is) and shows up with them unannounced and they are NOT discrete and the next thing you know, EVERYONE in the place knows EXACTLY what's going on.
They can be a blast when done correctly. But what you usually find is that the "good ones" are usually done with the screening done by one, or at most, two people that do a lot of work. And that means that a lot of people that would LIKE to go, will not make the cut. Bigger cities like Dallas might be able to do it because they have more people, more hobbiests and more girls in the game. But here it's an entirely different story.
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02-27-2012, 01:32 PM
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Join Date: Jan 24, 2010
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I am just guessing here...but also the free flow of alcohol can be a possible problem.
Most people can deal with that...and still be cool about things. But all it takes is one
or two idiots, allowing the drinks to result in them acting funky like a monkey.
Therefore, further drawing attention to the group. and of course giving monkeys' a bad name..
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02-27-2012, 04:24 PM
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Join Date: Dec 25, 2011
Location: On the Darkside of the moon
Posts: 1,207
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I just like to spank mine. Where is that fucking monkey? Looked under the bed nowhere to be found!
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02-27-2012, 04:28 PM
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Following a few PMs and emails, and after careful consideration, I would politely decline to be party to a "Meet and Greet" in Kansas City at the present time due to the implicit risks that may be incurred.
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02-27-2012, 05:11 PM
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Join Date: Jan 5, 2010
Location: Chicago/KC/Tampa/St. Croix
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I think a meet and greet may be fun, but in fairness to everyone else it would not be wise for me to attend as my presense is almost always recorded and those whom are around me documented. Instead of a meet and greet it would have to be a series of walk and talks LOL.
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02-27-2012, 05:23 PM
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Meet outside the coffee shop?
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02-28-2012, 09:42 AM
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Join Date: Mar 16, 2011
Location: Kansas Hill Country
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I feel bad for the op who seems like a nice fellow who would just like to put some names with faces. I have been to some really outstanding ones and I kinda miss regular m&gs but after the last fiasco I don't know if I would be inclined to attend in the future and the fact that Jackie has begged off indicates to me that it might not be a good time for m&gs in kc. I wonder too if a m&g is a waste of time for the ladies? One would not think so but I've heard complaints and after all, time is money.
I had to ditch the last one as it was in a public place and I saw folks I know outside of the lifestyle, so I had to boogie before they saw me. there was another one that was about 3 minutes from my house...didn't stay there long either....LOL
Just an opinion but I think alcohol should be excluded.
Maybe someday
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02-28-2012, 10:21 PM
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Join Date: Jan 8, 2010
Location: Between OP and Lawrence
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There might be some great people to share a drink with...but I have no desire to run in to my neighbor, my brother inlaw or a customer...I've always played it safe and stayed UTR...I'm a firm believer the meeting I have one on one is plenty good for me.
I share as little info as possible period...kept me out of trouble for a long time...I made the mistake once of giving my primary personal cell # to a nut case who was calling me at all hours...since I even have what I call a fun Phone..Its used for hobby and nothing else....no paper bill , pay for 2 hrs at a time...Be Safe!
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02-29-2012, 12:09 PM
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Join Date: Sep 15, 2010
Location: Overland Park
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The thought was that maybe it would be fun to have a few drinks with some of the people from the group. I have been to some other private events here that were similar to this lifestyle and I enjoyed them. But if the ladies don't think it's a good idea well then it's not a good idea...
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02-29-2012, 12:52 PM
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No one is stopping y'all from having a M&G, just don't expect a lot of the well known folks to show unless they truly trust the person doing the screening.
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02-29-2012, 02:37 PM
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Join Date: Sep 15, 2010
Location: Overland Park
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That's true MsElena but the well known people include the few providers I would trust to do the screening that's involved. I'm not looking to meet anyone in particular. Me personally I would be comfortable if someone did the screening and we select an undisclosed bar or pub and we meet on a slow night of the week. I can think of a couple bars that could accommodate 15-20 coworkers out for a drink after a late meeting. Unless one or two of the ladies is willing to volunteer to take care of the screening we're beating a dead horse.
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03-03-2012, 06:00 PM
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Join Date: Jan 7, 2010
Location: KS
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This is exactly whats happened in many cases only to find that the behavior of a few brings attention to all.
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03-03-2012, 08:12 PM
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Join Date: Jan 1, 2010
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Exactly, Sens. And even if everyone was on their best behavior we are still too conspicuous for many people's comfort. A bunch of older guys with some really hot ladies? Even if the ladies were dressed for church it still looks odd. Add in some drinks and a few people who don't care much about appearances and we have a show for the whole bar.
It's not too bad when the group is in a private room, but even then the bar staff knows (and talks).
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