The Problem With Obamacare Is Obamacare

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

...we are seeing large rate increases getting approved on the government exchanges due to UNBALANCED Risk Pools. It's as simple as that...

Sure, Socialism is simple enough. Make people buy something they do not need or want. You know. The thing. More of Other People's Money. Come on man!

[farmstud60]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Stud, you are describing ACA marketplace insurance, which is what Farm Bureau sells.

There’s no bigger group than that.

nope

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Sure, Socialism is simple enough. Make people buy something they do not need or want. You know. The thing. More of Other People's Money. Come on man!

Who’s the simpleton here? The truth is that eventually everyone will both need and want healthcare. And the older you become the need will become more acute.

That’s what makes this discussion different than a traditional capitalist response. If everyone is going to both need and want healthcare then the way to make it economically viable is to make everyone participate. For everyone to have a stake in the system.

[Mort Watt]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Perfectly said.

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Who’s the simpleton here? The truth is that eventually everyone will both need and want healthcare. And the older you become the need will become more acute.

That’s what makes this discussion different than a traditional capitalist response. If everyone is going to both need and want healthcare then the way to make it economically viable is to make everyone participate. For everyone to have a stake in the system.

+1

Outstanding reply!!!

[adav8s28]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Make people buy something they do not need or want. You know. The thing. More of Other People's Money. Come on man!

Republican congresswoman MTG has relatives on Obamacare. During the government shutdown she was calling for the GOP to extend those extra Obamacare tax credits that Biden put in during CoVid. Do you think Republican MTG is a socialist?

Question for you. For the person who is 30 years old, healthy and doesn't want health insurance. This person comes down with a serious illness and needs to be admitted to the hospital. This person ends up with a bill of $20,000. The person can't afford to pay. Who is suppose to pay the hospital and doctors that treated him/her?

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by adav8s28

Question for you. For the person who is 30 years old, healthy and doesn't want health insurance. This person comes down with a serious illness and needs to be admitted to the hospital. This person ends up with a bill of $20,000. The person can't afford to pay. Who is suppose to pay the hospital and doctors that treated him/her?

Most hospitals are nonprofits that don't pursue collection of unpaid bills from indigents.

That's not to say that the USA shouldn't have universal health care. Most here probably believe it should. The question is how are you going to get there. And lower costs and improve outcomes. I believe free market solutions with some help from government, or even a single payer system favored by TxDot, would work better than doubling down on what we've got now, which is what Obamacare did.