Trump announces peace agreement between Israel and Hamas.

[HDGristle]

Lol, you cherry picker. Quite selective there. No bias at all

Sorry, Donald Trump, but that’s not what I call a peace deal

No other world leader could have brought about this sequence of events to end the war in Gaza – but what happens when the US president’s boastful speeches stop, asks former Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert

Read the whole article, not just the parts Lusty likes

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Lol, I enjoy being a cherry picker.

FTFY.

But we already knew that. Fair and balanced you ain't!

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Read the whole article, not just the parts Lusty likes.

Which of my direct quotes didn't you like?

The part about all the living Israeli hostages being returned?

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Thanks, Gristle!

"Had Donald Trump not decided to force Netanyahu to apologise to the prime minister of Qatar, dictated a humiliating text to him, and placed a Qatari representative next to him who checked every word Netanyahu said, we might still be in the midst of war."

"No other leader could have made this sequence of events happen except for Trump... only one leader made a dramatic difference."

When something sounds super ingratiating and highly swathed in gratitude etc., do you think it's really genuine?

Also- when has QATAR become the most powerful government in the world?

• Giving away 747 planes
• Getting Armed bases approved
• Approving Peace Treaties for other countries.
• Giving away lots of investment dollars for Crypto for the 1st family.
• Investing in sports events and teams

Literally- are we gonna start using Riyals instead of dollars?

For a country who is apparently "holding all the cards" when it comes to big business and dealing with trouble makers- they seem to be the king shit in the neighborhood. Something smells funny - don't you think?

How did we let them become so influential in the world?

I smell the big payoff



Why would they be praising Trump so heavily unless there was something in it for them- besides raiding the markets and buying as much influence as they possibly can.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

When something sounds super ingratiating and highly swathed in gratitude etc., do you think it's really genuine?

Also- when has QATAR become the most powerful government in the world?

How did we let them become so influential in the world?

There you go again, showing your weak knowledge of the Middle East and the Persian Gulf.

To answer your questions in order:

1. Yes, former Israeli P.M. Olmert is quite genuine in his praise of Trump. As a political rival of Netanyahu, he enjoyed seeing Bibi publicly forced to knuckle under to Trump's demand that he apologize to Qatar for attacking Hamas negotiators on Qatari soil.

2. Qatar is far from "the most powerful govt in the world". Lol - where do you come up with these silly hyperboles? Qatar isn't even Top Dog in the Persian Gulf. (Or as you put it so elegantly - "king shit in the neighborhood".) Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the UAE are wealthier.

3. The US doesn't control or decide which countries become more (or less) influential in the world. Qatar has a small population (under 3 million) and huge natural gas fields which it has been developing for decades. It is currently the world's 3rd largest exporter of LNG, after the US and Australia. Being such a big energy supplier makes it influential.

I wish you would do a little more homework before you post. Here's a helpful wikipedia link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by lustylad

FTFY.

But we already knew that. Fair and balanced you ain't!




Which of my direct quotes didn't you like?

The part about all the living Israeli hostages being returned?

It's not about what I like or didn't like

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

It's not about what I like or didn't like

Of course it is!

You DON'T like ANYTHING that makes trumpy look good.

You DO like EVERYTHING that makes him look bad.

And you have 10,538 eccie posts proving this!

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Of course it is!

You DON'T like ANYTHING that makes trumpy look good.

You DO like EVERYTHING that makes him look bad.

And you have 10,538 eccie posts proving this!

... Aw, mate - that's cold. ... VERY cold.
I reckon you're exaggeratin' on his number of
"Trump-Hating" posts.

... And, I cannot swear to that HIGH Number
of some 10,500 "Trump-Hating" ones.

Since I onley been-'round for some 10,000 of 'em or so. ...

... Glad to see the Peace agreement.

#### Salty

[HDGristle]

https://archive.ph/fbRlg

[eyecu2]

Israel is Already making threats about domestic aid being cut by 50% if they don't get the bodies of the dead Israelis back. Just 24 hours...and the pot is being stirred. Will this be the beginning of the unraveling or just a hot topic that should have been included in the release of the prisoners?

I doubt they even have the bodies due to storage and keeping disease away as they were decomposing over the last years

[HDGristle]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-...th-fanaticism/

Bibi is already already laying out the pretext for the "peace deal" to not be a lasting one

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-...th-fanaticism/

Bibi is already already laying out the pretext for the "peace deal" to not be a lasting one

Bibi is the problem here. He's a warmonger and loves to act all tough. He's a corrupt piece of shit too but during the latest press conference- he's saying if Hamas doesn't disarm etc., " all hell will break lose".

What more hell does he think that can happen??

He's gonna face some consequences at the Hague at some point. Bombing people who are unarmed is just dubious.

[Jacuzzme]

Defending and retaliating against people who come into your country and slaughter civilians unprovoked isn’t dubious, it’s exactly what needs to be done.

[HDGristle]

Until you start killing more civilians than enemies, like Bibi was doing. It makes peace all that much more elusive.

I know what Hamas did. It was inexcusable. But Hamas isn't the majority of the Palestinian people

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Defending and retaliating against people who come into your country and slaughter civilians unprovoked isn’t dubious, it’s exactly what needs to be done.

not defending the raids by Hamas driven palestinians. The problem with this is the "An Eye for Ten Eyes" retribution plan. Bibi literally is promoting escalation at every turn. He's suspect in how he ran the country on ethics as well 'Indicted for breach of trust, accepting bribes, and fraud, leading him to legally relinquish his ministry in 2019'- NOT a great leader but another fraudster. He's been accused of operating the country in a way that is best for himself vs the population. (sound familiar?)

I get that the october raids were hellish, but at some point- everyone needs to calm down and chill. The retaliation against civilians who are children or innocent is just insane. What that does is just keep the war going on and on.

[Jacuzzme]

Ten eyes for an eye is exactly what’s called for because it’s the only language they understand. Israel went in WAY too soft afaic, and what I’d expect from our government if a bunch of Mexicans did that in Texas or Canadians in Minnesota, etc.

Hamas knew exactly what the Israeli response would be, and wanted exactly that. Their leadership knowingly uses the population as cannon fodder to garner sympathy and stoke hatred towards Jews. It works really well too. Look in the mirror, that guy supports middle age barbarism and is easily manipulated.