The Republican Party Has Changed

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Thank you. I am glad to hear the admission that zero black people are as qualified as Kennedy and Hegseth. This is truly a reflection of the new Republican Party you all are so proud of.

... Yet as we've pointed out - President Trump and Republicans
have MANY Black people - All Well-qualified - to serve
in The House of Congress and The Senate - a great number
of candidates.

... Will YOU be supporting them in the upcoming elections?
Cheering them on??

#### Salty

[1blackman1]

and you still can't bring yourself to give a number answering the question I asked.

[texassapper]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Thank you. I am glad to hear the admission that zero black people are as qualified as Kennedy and Hegseth. This is truly a reflection of the new Republican Party you all are so proud of.

What’s funny is you think Kennedy and Hegseth are not qualified.

[1blackman1]

They aren't

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

and you still can't bring yourself to give a number answering the question I asked.

Give it up Blackman. You're sounding like a broken record. Instead how about addressing the comments in bold text below,

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Yet as we've pointed out - President Trump and Republicans
have MANY Black people - All Well-qualified - to serve
in The House of Congress and The Senate - a great number
of candidates.

... Will YOU be supporting them in the upcoming elections?
Cheering them on??

#### Salty

Originally Posted by Tiny

Would Mitt Romney, John McCain or Bob Dole be putting statues back up of Confederate War Heroes? Would Mitt Romney, John McCain or Bob Dole try to enlist the Republican Base to overturn an election he clearly lost? Now admittedly on the other hand it’s great to see the party abandon the neoconservatism championed by people like McCain. But it’s not all peaches and cream. The changes that Trump’s brought haven’t all been positive. Other than the neoconservatism I prefer the old Republican Party.

Instead of playing the hijack card, how about pointing out blacks have served in every Republican president’s cabinet during most of our lifetime’s. The new Republican Party, like the old Republican Party, invites participation regardless of race, color or creed.

There are many formidable Black American politicians in the New Republican Party. To name a few, Tim Scott, Byron Donalds, Wesley Hunt, John James, Will Hurd, Ben Carson, Condoleeza Rice and Winsome Sears. It would depend on the opponent, but I'd probably pick any of them except Donalds and James in a primary or general election. I bet Salty would too, certainly in the general elections. How about you?

[ICU 812]

Why are we so focused on African Americans in terms of Trump administration?

The Republican Party of 2025 looks to be merit based regardless of one's heritage, birth culture or faith structure.

What about the inclusion of other minorities and/or ethnicities. What about LGBTQ cabinet secretaries? I see plenty of high performing subject matter experts who do not fit the old mold of Republican functionaries . . .and they are not DEI hires like Biden's last press secretary, Transportation Secretary or Vice President.

Why only African Americans?

[1blackman1]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Give it up Blackman. You're sounding like a broken record. Instead how about addressing the comments in bold text below,






There are many formidable Black American politicians in the New Republican Party. To name a few, Tim Scott, Byron Donalds, Wesley Hunt, John James, Will Hurd, Ben Carson, Condoleeza Rice and Winsome Sears. It would depend on the opponent, but I'd probably pick any of them except Donalds and James in a primary or general election. I bet Salty would too, certainly in the general elections. How about you?

Did salty answer my question? Nope. But your answer is for me to answer his. That’s exactly how deflection works right. Someone asks a question. Instead of answering they try to create a different subject of conversation. Hence not answering the question. But you know this already. Had salty answered the question there would be no need for me to ask.

Same with ole ICU. He could simply answer the question, yet he refuses to do so. Why should I entertain any questions he poses if he can’t bring himself to answer a simple question posed to him.

Tiny, maybe you should get out of this convo addressed to them and post your ChatGPT factoids. I presume ICU and Salty are man enough to answer questions and even provide some explanation as to why the answer is what it is. Rather, they just play the deflect and avoid game. I expect it from Salty because . . . Well, it’s his usual. No sources, blatant and easily disprovable lies filled with nonfactual and unsupported drivel. ICU pretends to be some deep thinker, though his posts tend to just be retreads of shit he posted a month prior. So if he’s so thoughtful and deep, show it. I posed a question and the answer is simple. Here we are 3 pages later and still no answer, just avoidance. I’m willing to engage, but if simple questions can’t be answered and discussed what’s the point.

As usual, the right wing circle jerk, just likes stroking one another and trying to finish simultaneously.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

Why are we so focused on African Americans in terms of Trump administration?

The Republican Party of 2025 looks to be merit based regardless of one's heritage, birth culture or faith structure.

What about the inclusion of other minorities and/or ethnicities. What about LGBTQ cabinet secretaries? I see plenty of high performing subject matter experts who do not fit the old mold of Republican functionaries . . .and they are not DEI hires like Biden's last press secretary, Transportation Secretary or Vice President.

Why only African Americans?

Unfortunately ICU, loyalty to Trump outweighs merit. And that can preclude the best and the brightest from working in the Trump administration. You've got to be willing to sell positions like cutting interest rates by 3% or imposing 150% tariffs on China when the Chinese can play the rare earth card. Or deporting illegal immigrants to South Sudan, although actually maybe that's something Stephen Miller sold Trump.

As to LGBTQ, yeah, Scott Bessent is the highest ranking gay cabinet secretary ever. And he has a husband who attended some of his hearings. I don't think Trump gives a crap what bathroom a Trans person uses or that gay people can marry. That's an area though where the Republican Party base is probably less enlightened than Trump, unfortunately in my view.

It's hard to figure out what Trump thinks about Hispanics. They're voting for him and for Republicans in record numbers, in large part because of things that Republicans get right or that appeal to them: efficient government at the state and local level, being tough on crime, and policies that have helped hard workers to get ahead. Hispanics on average lean towards social conservatism. In my county, a plurality is Hispanic, and Republicans often win elections with 60% margins.

I'd think that Trump's over-the-top immigration policies would hurt the party's appeal to Hispanics. I cringed when he said, “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. […] They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." I figured that would really hurt Republicans in 2016, and it probably did.

The Trump organization has hired a lot of Hispanics and illegal immigrants, often as contractors. So, like LGBTQ's, is Trump really more enlightened on deportations than the base? Is he doing it anyway to appeal to the base? Or is he a true believer? I don't know.

In any event, I agree, he's shown he'll hire people regardless of "one's heritage, birth culture or faith structure," with the caveat being they need to be loyal to Trump.

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Tiny, maybe you should get out of this convo addressed to them and post your ChatGPT factoids. I presume ICU and Salty are man enough to answer questions and even provide some explanation as to why the answer is what it is. Rather, they just play the deflect and avoid game.

OK Blackman, I shall allow you to continue with your quest to get each and every Trump supporter here to admit that there are currently no black cabinet members.

[texassapper]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

They aren't

Lucky for the Nation, your opinion on their qualifications lacks the standing of the Senates opinion.

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Don’t forget how accepting the Republican Party is of racism. But I guess that’s not a change if you go back to the late 60s early 70s. From that time acceptance of its racist faction and members is the norm.

As the old saying goes “not all republicans are racist, but nearly all racists are republicans”.

Originally Posted by Salty Again

.... Hmmmm... Sounds as-if you're disappointed there, mate.

Seeing-as the Democrat party surely had the inside track
all thru the 1920s and onward with their Great Support
of the KKK and what-not. ... You seem to have forgotten that.

And NOW - we're seeing the Republican party GROWING with
Black voter support - yer view seems rather short-sighted.

#### Salty

The demmies ain't the only one with that inside track. I'll expand on that.

Just watched part of the LBJ documentary on Palestinian Broadcast Station (don't know if the Koch Bros funded the program) and seems most of those card carrying KKK members left the libbys when LBJ started pushing Civil Rights. Guess where they went?

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

I wasn’t alive in the 20s. I am alive now and racists love the current Republican Party. So much so that it’s their party of choice. I’m not sure my view is shortsighted at all. I guess well see what the percent of black votes for republicans will be in 26 and 28. May be less than you think it’ll be.

Originally Posted by ICU 812

In the 1920s and "30s, the Democrat party supported the KKK. There are photos of The Clan openly parting through Washington DC, robed and armed. t?his support continued into the post WW-II yers with Senator Byrd (Dem West Virginia) being a high ranking official in The Clan . . .among other Democratic law makers and local political figures.

It took President Johnson to drag the Democrats out of their post-Civil War resistance in the 1960s with the civil rights legislation . . .and hd to get Republicans to come over to get those laws passed.

Don't forget Gov. Morley, or Senators Means, Holman, Pine.
Ima sure racism does not discriminate by party.

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

You still didn’t answer the simple question. How many blacks are in Trump’s cabinet?

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Anything to avoid the question. It’s pretty simple. How many blacks are in Trump’s cabinet?

Oh. Forgot i'd already commented here. But always nice to illuminate the maggies and their go to actions of misdirection.

[ICU 812]

With all of the above posted: I recommend that you first look at the Democrats currently in office and the state of their various governing jurisdictions and then look at the Republican Party.

If ou feel that the Republican Party, as it is constituted today is congruent with your beliefs, then support and not for their candidates at the local, state and national levels.

[ICU 812]

With all of the above posted: I recommend that you first look at the Democrats currently in office and the state of their various governing jurisdictions and then look at the Republican Party.

If ou feel that the Republican Party, as it is constituted today is congruent with your beliefs, then support and not for their candidates at the local, state and national levels.

[Salty Again]

... The Republican party has changed for the BETTER! ...

As some FOUR and a half (4 1/2) MILLION new Republican voters
would agree! ... ...

#### Salty

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

and you still can't bring yourself to give a number answering the question I asked.

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

With all of the above posted: I recommend that you first look at the Democrats currently in office and the state of their various governing jurisdictions and then look at the Republican Party. ...

Is that before or after the repubs gerrymandered to make their registered minority have control?