Trump admits he’s actively blocking funds to the USPS to thwart mail in voting. — blames Democrats of course

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Originally Posted by smokedog01

Based on what?

Jimmy Carter says so?


Heed Jimmy Carter on the Danger of Mail-In Voting

‘Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.’

By John R. Lott Jr.
April 10, 2020 6:27 pm ET

"Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.” That quote isn’t from President Trump, who criticized mail-in voting this week after Wisconsin Democrats tried and failed to change an election at the last minute into an exclusively mail-in affair. It’s the conclusion of the bipartisan 2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker III.

Concerns about vote-buying have a long history in the U.S. They helped drive the move to the secret ballot, which U.S. states adopted between 1888 and 1950. Secret ballots made it harder for vote buyers to monitor which candidates sellers actually voted for. Vote-buying had been pervasive; my research with Larry Kenny at the University of Florida has found that voter turnout fell by about 8% to 12% after states adopted the secret ballot.

You wouldn’t know any of this listening to the media outcry over Mr. Trump’s remarks. “There is a lot of dishonesty going on with mail-in voting,” the president said Tuesday. In response, a CNN “fact check” declares that Mr. Trump “opened a new front in his campaign of lies about voter fraud.” A New York Times headline asserts: “Trump Is Pushing a False Argument on Vote-by-Mail Fraud.” Both claim that voter fraud is essentially nonexistent. The Carter-Baker report found otherwise.

Intimidation and vote buying were key concerns of the commission: “Citizens who vote at home, at nursing homes, at the workplace, or in church are more susceptible to pressure, overt and subtle, or to intimidation. Vote buying schemes are far more difficult to detect when citizens vote by mail.” The report provides examples, such as the 1997 Miami mayoral election that resulted in 36 arrests for absentee-ballot fraud. The election had to be rerun, and the result was reversed.

There are more recent cases, too. In 2017 an investigation of a Dallas City Council election found some 700 fraudulent mail-in ballots signed by the same witness using a fake name. The discovery left two council races in limbo, and the fraud was much larger than the vote differential in one of those races. The case resulted in a criminal conviction.

In a 2018 North Carolina congressional race, Republican Mark Harris edged out Democrat Dan McCready by 905 votes. Fortunately, the state had relatively complete absentee-ballot records. Election officials became suspicious when they discovered that the Republican received 61% of mail-in votes, even though registered Republicans accounted for only 19% of those who had requested mail-in ballots.

A Republican operative, L. McCrae Dowless Jr., had allegedly requested more than 1,200 absentee ballots on voters’ behalf and then collected the ballots from voters’ homes when they were mailed out. Mr. Dowless’s assistants testified that they were directed to forge voters’ signatures and fill in votes. A new election was required, but Mr. Harris didn’t run. Mr. Dowless faces criminal charges for absentee-ballot fraud in both the 2016 and 2018 elections and has pled not guilty.

It is often claimed that impossibly large numbers of people live at the same address. In 2016, 83 registered voters in San Pedro, Calif., received absentee ballots at the same small two-bedroom apartment. Prosecutors rarely pursue this type of case.

Mail-in voting is a throwback to the dark old days of vote-buying and fraud. Because of this, many countries don’t allow absentee ballots for citizens living in their country, including Norway and Mexico. Americans deserve a more trustworthy system.

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Originally Posted by smokedog01

A federal judge in the battleground state of Pennsylvania just ordered the Trump campaign to turn over any actual proof that they have of voter fraud from mail-in voting by Friday in the lawsuit that they filed against 67 Pennsylvania County election boards. That judge (a Trump appointee) is basically telling them that if they want to stop mail voting in that state then prove why its bad. Interesting to see what proof the re-election campaign and the party is going to finally turn over.

Shouldn't be hard. Except for people who haven't been paying attention.

https://justthenews.com/politics-pol...cases-prove-it

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Still unconvinced? Read this...


An Invitation in the Mail for Election Fraud

Washington state sent a ballot to my home—which is now in Texas.

By Scott Hogenson
Aug. 2, 2020 12:23 pm ET

Uncertainties over Covid-19 have spurred significant interest in voting by mail. The process differs substantially from absentee voting, which requires a voter to file an application and creates a documented paper trail. Vote by mail is simpler: Ballots are printed and sent to registered voters, who complete and return them.

Consider Washington state. Vote by mail was required in 2011, so the government has had nearly a decade to refine the process. True to form, I received my Aug. 4 primary ballot several weeks ahead of the election date, leaving me ample time to consult my conscience and return my ballot.

The U.S. Postal Service appears to be operating fairly well. I still had plenty of time to vote because the USPS helpfully forwarded my ballot to my new address—in Texas.

Our family moved from Washington state to suburban Dallas in mid-June, but I have been invited to participate in Washington state’s August elections. So has my wife. Given that we aren’t residents of Washington, we won’t vote there. That would be fraudulent. I could probably get away with it, but the little angel on my shoulder shouted down the little devil on the other.

Therein lies but one of a cavalcade of problems with vote by mail. There’s no way of knowing how many nonresidents will receive ballots they’re not legally allowed to cast. There is no way to confirm how many eligible voters don’t receive ballots, how many dead people receive ballots, how many people receive multiple ballots, how many ballots actually make it through the mail in time, and how many ballots aren’t delivered to the place where they’re to be counted.

This anecdote isn’t unique, but you wouldn’t know that by reading the news. A Google search of “vote by mail fraud” returns articles mostly about how fraud is some sort of “myth,” a “false narrative,” something “not likely” to occur.

Even if every bureaucrat and election volunteer involved in every part of the process is honest and efficient, voting by mail is still fraught with problems. In my case, I don’t suspect malfeasance on the part of election officials. It takes time to purge voter rolls, and it’s entirely reasonable for this not to happen in the month between my move and the delivery of my ballot to Texas.

We can hope that individual voters will be honest. But passions run high in presidential election years, especially this one. Vote by mail may sound like a good idea, but it isn’t. It can’t be. It is subject to too many vagaries, too many errors, too much malevolent temptation. The American republic has done reasonably well with voting at polling places, and a radical revision of the voting process three months ahead of a presidential election would be doomed to inaccuracy and, yes, fraud.

Mr. Hogenson is president of Hogenson Communications

https://www.wsj.com/articles/an-invi...ud-11596385418

[Lucas McCain]

Originally Posted by HoeHummer

Europe won’t have yous, so...

That was harsh. I usually go to Nice, France this time of year. Now I am looked at as an American scumbag so I didn't even bother to try to go there. I live in Texas and those French fuckers follow everything in the news in the states. They'd probably throw my Texas ass in the ocean if I could even get there.

I have a cousin who is a pilot and said he would take me there. I laughed at the price he quoted me. I was like thanks but no thanks and I'll just go out to a lake close to my house or just go to fucking Galveston or Corpus Christi. For the price he quoted me, I could have bought a nice used car. My family sucks. They literally have no respect for my money. They tend to forget that I earned all of it and I'm not an ATM machine.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

... My family sucks. They literally have no respect for my money. They tend to forget that I earned all of it and I'm not an ATM machine.

They know you. It appears no one on Eccie does either.

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by HoeHummer

People are saying that he’s already doing that.

And when Trump loses, what then, bub, eh?

Yous are all too infected to be here unless yous play hockey, so...

There’s that wall Mexico built to the south, so...

Europe won’t have yous, so...

I hears Venezuela is lovely this time of year. Welcoming political exiles, too.

I'm thinking Costa Rica.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Lucas McCain

That was harsh. I usually go to Nice, France this time of year. Now I am looked at as an American scumbag so I didn't even bother to try to go there. I live in Texas and those French fuckers follow everything in the news in the states. They'd probably throw my Texas ass in the ocean if I could even get there.

I have a cousin who is a pilot and said he would take me there. I laughed at the price he quoted me. I was like thanks but no thanks and I'll just go out to a lake close to my house or just go to fucking Galveston or Corpus Christi. For the price he quoted me, I could have bought a nice used car. My family sucks. They literally have no respect for my money. They tend to forget that I earned all of it and I'm not an ATM machine.

you do know this is "Yssup Hoe Hummer Rider" you are replying to yeah? not worth the effort.

[HoeHummer]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

you do know this is "Yssup Hoe Hummer Rider" you are replying to yeah? not worth the effort.

Says the man with GPS.

[Budman]

Originally Posted by HoeHummer

People are saying that he’s already doing that.

And when Trump loses, what then, bub, eh?

Yous are all too infected to be here unless yous play hockey, so...

There’s that wall Mexico built to the south, so...

Europe won’t have yous, so...

I hears Venezuela is lovely this time of year. Welcoming political exiles, too.

These same people said that he colluded with Russia. With every post you prove you are the dumbest motherfucker to ever post in this shit hole. Keep drinking the kool aid bitch.

[oeb11]

The DPST 's and their lsm propaganda organs have no shame in their lies - they are twisting everything that comes out to try to convince foolish DPST Acolytes that Trump colluded with russia - proven false
which deters the LSM and DPST party not at all - they just keep on manufacturing and trumpeting Lies.



DPST are marxist and Fascist - and follow this Quote :
“The size of the lie is a definite factor in causing it to be believed, for the vast masses of a nation are in the depths of their hearts more easily deceived than they are consciously and intentionally bad. The primitive simplicity of their minds renders them a more easy prey to a big lie than a small one, for they themselves often tell little lies, but would be ashamed to tell big lies.”

~ Adolf Hitler
(1889-1945) German Nazi Dictator
Mein Kampf, p. 197(?) 14th Edition.



They learned their Goebbels lessons well - and practice it well.

If DPST's come to office - expect a repeat of 1930's germany - with OBLM and AntiFa and the DFPST brownshirt street troops.



Civil War is coming!

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Originally Posted by HoeHummer

Says the man with GPS.

says the spare parts guy for china.

[pleasurem]

Made up BS... The mail is the mail!!!

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by pleasurem

Made up BS... The mail is the mail!!!

Since the post office gives me my neighbor's mail, ....

..... can I vote for my neighbor?

(My mailbox isn't BLUE!)

There are two reasons the Post Office loses money EVERY YEAR .... #1: They keep getting bailed out by the taxpayers and #2: the union.

For years the two postal delivery folks serving my office and the residence were outstanding, personable, and in excellent physical condition ....

... the current batch are too fat to get out of the delivery vehicle and waddle packages to the door, and too busy talking on their cell phone to answer any questions (I can hear them talking on the phone over the motor noise 2-3 buildings away!). The two excellent and personable delivery folks are "sorting" mail inside.

The Post Office is the last group of people to run a fair and accurate election. They can't even run a business and put the mail in the correct box. I take my neighbors' mail to the neighbors to whom it was addressed. I've gotten business mail for other businesses 3-5 blocks down the street ... and they get mine.

[HoeHummer]

Originally Posted by Budman

These same people said that he colluded with Russia. With every post you prove you are the dumbest motherfucker to ever post in this shit hole. Keep drinking the kool aid bitch.

That would be your Senate, big shooter.

Everybody said he colluded with Russia except Barr.

Yous on the other hand, are a bit of a cow, eh?

[nevergaveitathought]

leftists never speak the truth

they misquote every finding and spin every proper understanding