Socked, stunned and pleased

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

It will be interesting to see how full restaurants are tomorrow. And stores. I need my hair cut!!

The main reason I can see Biden going with Harris is she would appeal to the more left side of the Democratic party more than others. She is left of Biden but right of Sanders. But very often VP is picked based upon helping the presidential candidate win a state and Biden does not need help in California.

Excellent point - California is also in the bag for Biden.

Duckworth is a strong bet - I don't know much about her other than I read she is a moderate and suffered severe wounds in Iraq.

However, she was born in Thailand (hence her smiling?) and I don't know if that disqualifies her for VP. I heard a rumor Obama wasn't born in the US but since he won the election I felt it wasn't that important of a point.

My hope for Obama was that his election would have ended the constant hatred of white people in the USA, but I was disappointed.

[HoeHummer]

Are yous of Europeans descent, fredsy? Yous are always so concerned about the poor downtrodden whites peoples.

From your various musings, one would gather that maybe you may should be more concerned with the white people and not so much for them.

[friendly fred]

You tell me!

[oeb11]

Presidential eligibility

• be a natural-born U.S. citizen of the United States;
• be at least 35 years old;
• be a resident in the United States for at least 14 years.

The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term "natural born" citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship "by birth" or "at birth," either by being born "in" the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen- ...

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by oeb11

Presidential eligibility

• be a natural-born U.S. citizen of the United States;
• be at least 35 years old;
• be a resident in the United States for at least 14 years.

The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term "natural born" citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship "by birth" or "at birth," either by being born "in" the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen- ...

Apparently, her father served in WWII and traces his roots to the American Revolution. This would seem to apply under the "at birth" due to her father's military record but I don't know.

Blago made her Director of the Illinois Dept of Veteran Affairs in 2006.(No word if compensation was asked for or received, nor is any wrongdoing on Duckworth's part alleged. I'm just mentioning that because of Blago's selling of Obama's seat, and conviction for corruption for soliciting bribes notwithstanding his commuted sentence which does not remove a conviction, unlike a pardon.)

How much would you pay for such an appointment? (I mean donate to a political campaign...)

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by HoeHummer

Are yous of Europeans descent, fredsy? Yous are always so concerned about the poor downtrodden whites peoples.

From your various musings, one would gather that maybe you may should be more concerned with the white people and not so much for them.

White people are very explicitly targeted by the US Government and lesser governments of the states and localities as undesirable to hire, contract with, or to congregate together, and this is enforced in the arena of public opinion on a regular basis by the press and it's sympathizers.

The courts have repeatedly affirmed the use of various measures to dilute the concentration of white people in all areas of US life.

The enlightened progress of the NBA and NFL to eliminate white people on the playing field is particularly impressive. Please note that a statistical analysis of NBA and NFL rosters indicates blatant discrimination against females - perhaps the leagues should address that prior to reopening their seasons.

[HoeHummer]

Awesome response fredsy.

Did yous see Black KKKlansman? Interesting plot, eh?

[eccielover]

Originally Posted by HoeHummer

Awesome response fredsy.

Glad you agree, I do too.

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by HoeHummer

Awesome response fredsy.

Did yous see Black KKKlansman? Interesting plot, eh?

Thank you HH.

I did not see the movie you are referring to in your response.

[pfunkdenver]

Originally Posted by friendly fred

White people are very explicitly targeted by the US Government and lesser governments

Have fun at the next KKK meeting!

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by pfunkdenver

Have fun at the next KKK meeting!

ftfy

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

To say "Democratic women" is a bit strong. I know Abrams and Gillibrand have been called out for defending Biden while criticizing others accused of the same type of sexual misconduct.


You can add Pelosi and Hillary who have publicly said they believe Joe while Klobachar and Harris will only say that Reade deserves to be heard but the point is, didn't literally all Democrat women whether in public office or the Alyssa Milano's of the world say without hesitation that any/ all women should be believed and now will only say all women should be heard? Can you think of any Democrat women who did not say, I believe all women?



Where are the "I believe all women who accuse a man of sexual assault"? That is what I'm referring to. Any woman who publicly said she believed Ford but will not now say they believe Reade is a hypocrite.


Any others? Yes, it is wrong to condemn one and let others slide for the same allegations. It's called "partisan politics" which probably neither of us condone but it's a fact of life.


It's also called being a hypocrite which for some reason you will not say


AOC has actually come out in support of investigating Biden. I don't know of others but there may be.


Yes, they are called Bernie Sanders supporters. Susan Sarandon, a big wig in the MeToo movement has now said Reade's allegations sound credible.


Ocasio-Cortez responded, "What you're voicing is so legitimate and real. That's why I find this kind of silencing of all dissent to be a form of gaslighting."

She went on to say, "I think it's legitimate to talk about these things. And if we want, if we again want to have integrity, you can't say, you know — both believe women, support all of this, until it inconveniences you, until it inconveniences us."

So I'll amend my statement from "Democrat women" to exclude those that support Bernie. The rest either will not confirm what they said about believing all women will only say that all women deserve to be heard which is what they should have said, only have said about Kavanaugh but they didn't.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

ftfy

Biden & Byrd. What a handsome couple.
Recall that Byrd died shortly after kissing Hilary Clinton on the lips. And that was even before Muh Corona.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

"You can add Pelosi and Hillary who have publicly said they believe Joe while Klobachar and Harris will only say that Reade deserves to be heard but the point is, didn't literally all Democrat women whether in public office or the Alyssa Milano's of the world say without hesitation that any/ all women should be believed and now will only say all women should be heard? Can you think of any Democrat women who did not say, I believe all women?

Where are the "I believe all women who accuse a man of sexual assault"? That is what I'm referring to. Any woman who publicly said she believed Ford but will not now say they believe Reade is a hypocrite."

There is nothing wrong with believing one person and not believing another person based on the evidence available. Tara Reade's story has changed several times over the years, from a simple unwanted touching of shoulder and neck to fingers up her vagina. Did Ford change her story of sexual assault by Kavanaugh? I don't remember.

I certainly agree that some Democratic women could certainly be guilty of being hypocrites. But to stand in silence, as many Democratic women are doing today and Republican women did in 2016 when allegations were made against Trump, is not wrong.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/3046962001/

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

There is nothing wrong with believing one person and not believing another person based on the evidence available.

Juries do it on a regular basis ... AFTER DUE PROCESS.

What you, and others, seem to be doing is using news reports and drawing conclusions BEFORE ANY DUE PROCESS.