Why keep asking?

[Randall Creed]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

I know, right?.. I've had ladies say, "Tran, you're not near the Jackass I thought you would be"!

Exactly. Just like...all the ladies aren't as hot in person as they appear on the boards.

[MW76]

Originally Posted by suiram77

Here you go with your same bull shit today PAWB!!!! Casey or no woman’s has to see anybody that they not interested in. I’m a black man and if she didn’t see black men that’s her choice, she is not a damn restaurant, so therefore it’s not discrimination lil boy. Like Casey said No means No. A woman has the right to change her mind even if a guy got to her incall and she said no thank you. Your ass have to leave period it’s her body and she can fuck and suck who the hell she want. The hobby is her business but not her body, so no man can show up and say I’m clean, I’m respectful, I have my donation, so you have to sleep with me lmfao, bull shit she does. Take your ass someone else with that crap.

This is no different than the Colorado bakery case. Federal judges ruled bakers could make or not make any cake they want as long as they weren't selling the cakes. They couldn't discriminate what cakes they made when selling to public. Bakers couldn't make a religious cake and not make a cake for gay couples.

Likewise, a woman can see whoever or not see whoever she wants on match, eharmony, singles bar, etc. But when it becomes a business offering a service to the public, providers lose their right to discriminate.

[pyramider]

Thanck you, drive thru. Wrong again mister troll.

[MW76]

Originally Posted by pyramider

Thanck you, drive thru. Wrong again mister troll.

So you think know more about the law than federal judges. You must be one of those unemployed lawyers who spend all their waking hours putting their legal 0,02 on an escort board like Shyster Job.

[pyramider]

Please get an attorney and run this up the flagpole. I would love to see the Supremes hear, and argue, this crap.

[suiram77]

Originally Posted by Randall Creed

I don't mean to sound like a creepy weirdo guy by saying this, but I don't think there's anything wrong with a little persistence. It's taken me 3-4 tries to see some ladies, but, when I finally got through and saw her, we both had a good time. Multiple visits ensued. This has happened with more than one provider. Hell, they've even leaned on me for real life favors, and apologizing for those initial, not so pleasant first contacts.

My point here is, not every guy that is a little persistent is a douchebag. At the same time, how many of you ladies have had guys that you thought were the greatest hobbyists ever, only to do something stupid and get on your shit list??

Just saying.

Edit: And board personas are overrated. I've heard more than once from providers, "You're nothing like in person how you seem on the boards." We adopt identities on this board, which may or may not be who we really are. Bruce Wayne and Batman are two completely different personas, but they are played by the same person.

Edit: And board personas are overrated. I've heard more than once from providers, "You're nothing like in person how you seem on the boards." We adopt identities on this board, which may or may not be who we really are. Bruce Wayne and Batman are two completely different personas, but they are played by the same person.

I totally agree with this RC I just recently said this in another thread about my handler. Who I am and who suiram77 is on the boards is most definitely two different people. I understand that this is a fantasy world, something that most seems to forget, so my board persona doesn’t have to be who I really am as a person, and if that means a chick wouldn’t want to see me based on my handler on the boards, then cool SEE YOU!!!!! I don’t even want the two to even mix ever, So I am Plus 1 on this RC.

[8701]

Originally Posted by casey_carlin

And just for FYI I have never not taken anyone based on race. That is not the way I choose my clients.

Casey

Words from a truly sexy independent provider who runs her business as she sees fit, and does Not allow the majority to dictate her choices.

Very refreshing...thank you

[grean]

Originally Posted by micktoz

Misogynist arsehole answers like that are what he was talking about. So, what you are saying is that it's the victim's fault because sometimes they change their mind.
No wonder we can't have nice things here. That's one of the reasons the other providers have walked from here. Too many game players.

Guess the cheerleader & nerd analogy fell flat.

What victim? If a provider has turned down guy B before but one night he happens to call thst provider after an appointment fell through with guy A, she is now a victim for deciding to make an appointment with the guy B?

Nobody made her. She is a grown up who can make her own decisions. She may think the guy is an asshole. The guy probably is a huge asshole. She made a conscious decision to put up with asshole , who she previously would not see because she decided the cash was more important. She's not being exploited. As an intelligent and informed adult , she made a decision.

This happens all the time. If it didn't work the guys wouldn't keep hounding providers who turn them down.

I'm definitely, in no way saying Casey will eventually give in if the money is right. There is a huge number of women on this board that wouldn't either. There are enough that do however, that makes some jons try that with all providers.

Casey asked why assholes are assholes. Well, the answer may sound a bit like an asshole.

Not my style but it is for others.

[TexTushHog]

Originally Posted by casey_carlin

I tell them why. I don’t beat around the bush not my game.

One rejection was due to not wanting to text or call for directions. My suggestion was to get a hobby phone or use an app. I like to be in contact with the people visiting me the day of our appt. Another was because he kept insisting I offer a QV. Several insist I see them after my stated hours, and one his referral never got back to me and he keeps telling me to trust him because he’s safe. Oh and if your a jackass on the board that’s a huge nope.

I tell all of them there are so many providers out there that would love to see you. I have 4 hrs a week to spend with clients and I choose people I feel are going to have a good time together.

And just for FYI I have never not taken anyone based on race. That is not the way I choose my clients.

Casey

I give you credit for telling them why. I think that is more honest, more decent, and frankly leads for fewer misunderstandings.

I can't offer an personal insight into the issue, but I think that there are two possibilities. I'll mention the one I think is most likely first. I always thought the hobby would be full of guys who were interested in women and enjoyed women's company. And there are some guys like that, I think. But I am constantly amazed by how many absolute, over the top, straight up misogynists there are here. And for the life of me I can't understand that. But these types seem to have an almost pathological need to mistreat and demean women. Perhaps they think that by continuing to call you and waste your time, that they are degrading you.

A second possible explanation, and one that might explain the behavior of a few rejected guys, is low self-esteem. I know that when anyone suffers from depression, that they take every event that happens to them and internalize that event in the worst possible light. If they are rejected by a provider, they don't think "Gee, maybe I just wasn't right for this girl for some valid technical reason, but I'll be great for the next one, or the one after that." Instead, because of the toxic stew in their system of neurotransmitters, that becomes, "Shit, even a women that gets paid to sleep with strangers won't even sleep with me! I must be the most pathetic excuse for a man in the whole world." And instead of moving along to the next gal and getting the dopamine rush that comes with a professionally induced orgasm, he thinks, "Maybe I'll call her up and catch her on a better day." Because even if the next gal will sleep with him, that doesn't erase the invalidation that came with the rejection by a working gal in instance number one. It's the old "He's so pathetic he couldn't get laid in a whorehouse if he had a fist full of hundred dollar bills" syndrome. Just some speculation from a guy who has spend some time in the company of depression off and on through the years, albeit mostly in other contexts.

[Chung Tran]

Originally Posted by grean

This happens all the time. If it didn't work the guys wouldn't keep hounding providers who turn them down.

grean, you're not there yet.. closer than you were but I'm still cringing at your responses.

why not assume the lady means NO, and if later on she decides to bend "no" a little bit, fine? the ball is in your court to accept or reject her at that time.

and I disagree with your statement here.. guys who hound do so because they are low-life stalker Fucksticks, with many personal issues. do you really think a lady changes her mind BECAUSE a Dude hounds her, and she becomes enlightened? of course not.

[casey_carlin]

Persistence when our schedules don’t work it more than ok. Persistence when I have said I have no interest in seeing you is way different. Heck even the one with the provider that won’t respond if he gets another reference that’s great, but trying to act like I don’t remember our correspondence and your going to slip in that’s a negative, lol.

Casey

Originally Posted by Randall Creed

I don't mean to sound like a creepy weirdo guy by saying this, but I don't think there's anything wrong with a little persistence. It's taken me 3-4 tries to see some ladies, but, when I finally got through and saw her, we both had a good time. Multiple visits ensued. This has happened with more than one provider. Hell, they've even leaned on me for real life favors, and apologizing for those initial, not so pleasant first contacts.

My point here is, not every guy that is a little persistent is a douchebag. At the same time, how many of you ladies have had guys that you thought were the greatest hobbyists ever, only to do something stupid and get on your shit list??

Just saying.

Edit: And board personas are overrated. I've heard more than once from providers, "You're nothing like in person how you seem on the boards." We adopt identities on this board, which may or may not be who we really are. Bruce Wayne and Batman are two completely different personas, but they are played by the same person.

[casey_carlin]

And that is why I tell them why I can’t see them. It’s all usually technical reasons. Can’t call or text me I can’t help you if you get lost, references won’t get back to me well there are reasons.

Do y’all remember that serial killer that came through Texas years ago. He only saw escorts and when one saw his stuff in the back of his car she shot and killed him. Then they had found out he had killed escorts all over the US. I need to find that news article, but if I remember right he murdered someone in Dallas or Texas. That’s always in the back of my mind because I am sure my family would like me to be around. I know it sounds crazy, but I like Crime TV.

Casey

Originally Posted by TexTushHog

I give you credit for telling them why. I think that is more honest, more decent, and frankly leads for fewer misunderstandings.

I can't offer an personal insight into the issue, but I think that there are two possibilities. I'll mention the one I think is most likely first. I always thought the hobby would be full of guys who were interested in women and enjoyed women's company. And there are some guys like that, I think. But I am constantly amazed by how many absolute, over the top, straight up misogynists there are here. And for the life of me I can't understand that. But these types seem to have an almost pathological need to mistreat and demean women. Perhaps they think that by continuing to call you and waste your time, that they are degrading you.

A second possible explanation, and one that might explain the behavior of a few rejected guys, is low self-esteem. I know that when anyone suffers from depression, that they take every event that happens to them and internalize that event in the worst possible light. If they are rejected by a provider, they don't think "Gee, maybe I just wasn't right for this girl for some valid technical reason, but I'll be great for the next one, or the one after that." Instead, because of the toxic stew in their system of neurotransmitters, that becomes, "Shit, even a women that gets paid to sleep with strangers won't even sleep with me! I must be the most pathetic excuse for a man in the whole world." And instead of moving along to the next gal and getting the dopamine rush that comes with a professionally induced orgasm, he thinks, "Maybe I'll call her up and catch her on a better day." Because even if the next gal will sleep with him, that doesn't erase the invalidation that came with the rejection by a working gal in instance number one. It's the old "He's so pathetic he couldn't get laid in a whorehouse if he had a fist full of hundred dollar bills" syndrome. Just some speculation from a guy who has spend some time in the company of depression off and on through the years, albeit mostly in other contexts.

[casey_carlin]

Here it is.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...rities-n400646

[MW76]

Curious why the OP started an obvious threAD when she only has four appointments per week? It shouldn't be that hard to find four compatible men or women to see every week. Maybe the OP charges too much for her time or provides mediocre service. Her reviews are good in regard to actual services performed. So I don't believe it's her service. So her rates are probably too high for her age/looks in light of the fierce provider competition in DFW.

Do you think her rates are too high based on her age/looks and availability of comparable providers offering their services for significantly less? Don't try to be a WK and say she doesn't charge enough if you're a nickel and dime hobbyist who want see a provider if she charges more than $200 per hour. That would be speaking out of both sides of your mouth. I've known Casey since back in the ASPD days when she was about 20 years old and did doubles with Marla. She could command more money then. Yes, I really did enjoy her company back then and was more than willing to pay her rate. I only saw her once, but still have great memories of that appointment. But a lot of water has passed under the bridge since. She has gotten older and the provider market has gotten more competitive. So it might be time for her to consider lowering her rates.

[micktoz]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

grean, you're not there yet.. closer than you were but I'm still cringing at your responses.

why not assume the lady means NO, and if later on she decides to bend "no" a little bit, fine? the ball is in your court to accept or reject her at that time.

and I disagree with your statement here.. guys who hound do so because they are low-life stalker Fucksticks, with many personal issues. do you really think a lady changes her mind BECAUSE a Dude hounds her, and she becomes enlightened? of course not.

+1 totally agree , Chung.

I think the problem here is that Grean is trying to explain (justify) arsehole's behavior . There are a ton of manipulative pricks in this world , who won't stop until they get what they want, regardless of the other person.
Personally, i don't want to fuck someone who doesn't want to fuck me. I guess these guys don't really like women , they just are addicted control freaks. The problem is that they are one step away from being dangerous and trying to explain it away is one step away from condoning it.