Prebooking with a deposit?

[London Rayne]

Originally Posted by Naomi4u

No need to have an attitude. Having a bad day? Go and chillax and have a cocktail

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xU-rJNgoWU

Just for you Naomi.

[Naomi4u]

Originally Posted by Dannie

Just because they CAN write a scam alert or NCNS review doesn't mean they will.

One of our local ATF providers put someone I know $10K in the hole in one month in prepaid sessions that never took place. He refuses to post an alert because no one will believe it. Funny thing is, several other guys have similar stories but also won't write reviews.

Another ATF likes to let guys go over on time for several sessions, until she goes bat shit on your ass on the third or fourth visit, saying you owe her. No one reviews it because no one would believe it.

Here is a classic example of what happens when a guy posts an alert on a thoroughly reviewed lady:
http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=177555
The end result was great but all the WK's in the first few pages are nauseating. While it's not an issue regarding deposits, you can clearly see why men have hesitation to do so, posting an alert is typically an exercise in futility.

Don't be fooled just because it is a review board. That doesn't really mean anything.

Dannie,

But it does happen. When I first started escorting I had a client that lived ONLY 2 hours away (Raleigh NC) from me send me $600 to secure our appointment. I had absolutely NO reviews and was a bit shocked that someone would do such thing but he did. I guess after an hour long conversation with me he felt secure that I would not "take" his money. Men that have money have no problem doing this. Now the appointment was $1200 the $600 he sent via was because I was having to drive to him. When I got to his place he had a Christian dior gift set waiting for me and gave me extra money to go shopping AND we went to Morton's for dinner. Some men have it and others don't ya know? The ones that do have no reservations about this if they feel comfortable with the girl. My biggest spender here in the Carolinas will NOT do this ever. I asked him about this and he was like HELL NO lol. Some will, Some won't.

Yes I was trying to figure out if guys would prepay a deposit if the provider was coming into town. I guess the majority of guys here won't but I betcha that there are some guy that will. In fact, When I posted on the boston TER board a lot of men encouraged and even advised that I do this. I guess it's a regional thing?

I respect your POV btw.

[Naomi4u]

Originally Posted by London Rayne

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xU-rJNgoWU

Just for you Naomi.

Lol!! Too funny!!!

I think that some people are even angry that I asked the question. I would never do something like this and make it mandatory. I try to accommodate the guys that contact me to the best of my ability. If they don't want to prebook don't be upset if I get an overnight and cancel our date. Prebooking with a deposit will make me feel confident enough to keep our date and postpone the overnight. I am pretty positive that no guy in their right mind would offer to pay a BP, CL girl. If the girl looks professional, have good reviews and you click with her on the phone or via email why not? Hell WP and I had a phone conversation and within 24 hours he sent me an $1800 deposit, paid my hotel and my airfare .. it happens. If he can do it for a long engagement why not for a 2 hour though I see how it is kind of ridiculous to make it mandatory that someone pays a deposit for a 1 or 2 hour appointment. It never hurts to ask

Gonna go sit in my hot tub now..

[Valerie]

Originally Posted by Naomi4u

I find it funny that someone can call this act "tacky" but yet go behind my back and tell a client of mine that I was a gold digger. Nuff said.

Valerie you are so spot on. I already do this now with overnights and fly-me-to-you appointments but anything else not with one and two hours. Do guys pay a deposit with you for hourly engagements? I'm sure you feel much more secure that way.

When I am touring a major metropolitan city (ie: Manhattan, Chicago and even DC), anything more than 3 hrs I require a deposit for. I have never had any problems with the gents in those cities or complaints about it, most clients that are going to see me for 3+ hrs at my Metro-rates (400hr), aren't the type of gentlemen that are worried about a small deposit....Now I have to go do a 3hr appt.(ironic)....Later

[London Rayne]

Originally Posted by Naomi4u

Lol!! Too funny!!!

If they don't want to prebook don't be upset if I get an overnight and cancel our date. Prebooking with a deposit will make me feel confident enough to keep our date and postpone the overnight.

That's all I'm sayin. I am not going to toss another date on the off chance this guy "might" show up. I offer pre-booking specials off multi-hour dates, and half the ones who try to save the money are the same ones who cancel anyway. The last minute guys that I can never screen in time, seem to always be willing to "pay whatever it takes to see you now."

[Naomi4u]

Originally Posted by FatBastard

No problem with deposits. Asking and getting are two different things. If I want my date delivered, I will pay fob-origin. However, I prefer to travel to where she is at.

I have many friends that travel to see their ATFs. It is always nice when a client travels to see me. I prefer that than having to accept a deposit for an extended arrangement.

Originally Posted by MrGiz

I try to never say never.... but I've never paid a deposit , and I never plan to!

Good reputations , verifiable history , and tons of references should be enough... or else, we will probably not meet!

Giz

I totally understand and respect this POV.

[rrabbit6926]

Very interesting points of view. As far as paying a deposit to save some money upfront I wouldn't do it but to each their own.

[London Rayne]

Originally Posted by rrabbit6926

Very interesting points of view. As far as paying a deposit to save some money upfront I wouldn't do it but to each their own.

Guys who bring Breaking Benjamin shirts don't have to pay the deposit. Wearing it now.

[JoanJet]

There's only one way to find out?

[Naomi4u]

Originally Posted by Valerie

When I am touring a major metropolitan city (ie: Manhattan, Chicago and even DC), anything more than 3 hrs I require a deposit for. I have never had any problems with the gents in those cities or complaints about it, most clients that are going to see me for 3+ hrs at my Metro-rates (400hr), aren't the type of gentlemen that are worried about a small deposit....Now I have to go do a 3hr appt.(ironic)....Later

Hey love,

My point exactly. Most guys that are willing to see us for multi-hour sessions don't mind the deposits. Heck there was a time when I thought that all clients posted reviews but came to find that most don't even bother though I encourage it. Everyone had their own style of hobbying.

XOXO,
Naomi

[gimme_that]

Originally Posted by Naomi4u

So you're browsing escort ads and realize there's a new lady coming into town. Her rate is $325 an hour but $250 if you prebook with a $100 deposit. She states on her website that prebooking with a deposit gurantees your time with her while she's in town and if she were to cancel that you will be fully refunded. Would you go for the lower rate and prebook or would you wait till she's in town and pay the $300.

Just curious.

Thoughts?

Only if she refunded the money via western union.......but then again no.

I guess it depends on the need. If were talking hourly appts and prepaying hour appts....hell no. It speaks kind of like high volume to me. And the whole "guarantee" if you pay and prebook versus a normal prebooked appointment that is kept doesn't sit right with me. In so many words your saying.....ok guys I'm coming to your city....you can book with me....but if you don't prepay....I may double schedule and not keep the appointed time we agreed on. That's. Real shitty to a potential client and doesn't provide sufficient incentive.

I will say this though. On overnights, with ladies who are out of town...I will prepay the equivalent of an advanced 2 week plane ticket. For example...if a lady overnight rate it 1600 I might pay between 300 to 400 only(which typically is a full hour booking in most cities and I wouldn't consider that a substancial loss, as a backpage lady or one less known will probably fit an overnight in the 1200 left over).....anything more is too risky, and I would only consider it for someone I have already seen.but even then...if I have already seen her...she should trust that I wouldn't be flaky booking that large block of time.

So I guess moreso than anything....the need is what will dictate what I will do.

There was one time I paid the full overnight donation in full...mostly be cause I hate carrying large sums of money on me mostly for convience. The lady arrived...but I feelt as if the session was a little less enthused since there was no incentive besides just coming. She can show up late, say she's tired from traveling, be suddenly sick, etc......and that would be shitty.

I think the incentive of cheaper hour rates if prebooked and pre paid at 100 dollars or so is a cool incentive, so don't give up on that. But to tell guys who screen with you, prebook with you, an refrain from paying a deposit that you might book someone in there time slot would be tacky and wrong unless you at least spoke with the guys ahead of time.

Sometimes I will tryy to book overnights with ladies on short notice same day. If they are booked for the night and say that they will cancel a few of there calls....I'm the first one to say don't do that......id hate for someone to be cockblocked with blueballs at my expense.

And as far as paying in advance to avoid the ncns if they are screening with you an pull that stuff....they accountability or lack of courtesy could be reported to their refs so that they know there not dependable clients.

[Naomi4u]

Gimmethat,

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Originally Posted by gimme_that

Only if she refunded the money via western union.......but then again no.

I guess it depends on the need. If were talking hourly appts and prepaying hour appts....hell no. It speaks kind of like high volume to me. And the whole "guarantee" if you pay and prebook versus a normal prebooked appointment that is kept doesn't sit right with me. In so many words your saying.....ok guys I'm coming to your city....you can book with me....but if you don't prepay....I may double schedule and not keep the appointed time we agreed on. That's. Real shitty to a potential client and doesn't provide sufficient incentive.

This is something one would do to guarantee a set time for the client. All too often guys will book and then call to cancel because something came up. How is that fair to the lady especially when he doesn't give her enough notice? I looked at it as a way to combat NCNS and lessen the amount of cancellations. I DO see how that can make the lady sound like she's high volume. However I will still have this as an option and not make it mandatory and I have never double booked ever.

I will say this though. On overnights, with ladies who are out of town...I will prepay the equivalent of an advanced 2 week plane ticket. For example...if a lady overnight rate it 1600 I might pay between 300 to 400 only(which typically is a full hour booking in most cities and I wouldn't consider that a substancial loss, as a backpage lady or one less known will probably fit an overnight in the 1200 left over).....anything more is too risky, and I would only consider it for someone I have already seen.but even then...if I have already seen her...she should trust that I wouldn't be flaky booking that large block of time.

Well to each their own. I require a 50% deposit for overnights. An overnight with me is $2500 (I do offer discounts to regs) I would need half of that to even secure the appointment. When I'm doing a 3 day excursion it is half of the first day appointment PLUS my airfare and my hotel and I will accept the rest when I arrive to the city. If a lady chooses to accept anything lower then that is her own business. I couldn't accept $300 or even $600 to secure an overnight. Mind you the last guy that paid for a 3 day excursion with me had never met me prior. He felt like we had a connection via email and sent for me. (See review)

There was one time I paid the full overnight donation in full...mostly be cause I hate carrying large sums of money on me mostly for convience. The lady arrived...but I feelt as if the session was a little less enthused since there was no incentive besides just coming. She can show up late, say she's tired from traveling, be suddenly sick, etc......and that would be shitty.

Totally understand and that IS a very good point.

I think the incentive of cheaper hour rates if prebooked and pre paid at 100 dollars or so is a cool incentive, so don't give up on that. But to tell guys who screen with you, prebook with you, an refrain from paying a deposit that you might book someone in there time slot would be tacky and wrong unless you at least spoke with the guys ahead of time.

Totally understand this too. You make a good point.

Sometimes I will tryy to book overnights with ladies on short notice same day. If they are booked for the night and say that they will cancel a few of there calls....I'm the first one to say don't do that......id hate for someone to be cockblocked with blueballs at my expense.

How interesting. I could never do an overnight the same day. I require at least a 24-48 hour notice for an overnight or to fly to another city for a meeting. Gimmethat, Usually I already have the money for an overnight booking and would not book a one hour appointment anyway the same day. Seriously why would I ditch $2500 for $300? Sorry for the strong words but think about it. If you were an escort would you? Why would I schedule a one hour appointment on the same day that I am having an overnight? If for some reason I booked those two appointments on the same day and forgot for some reason. I will call the one hour and tell him that I will be unable to see him. The overnight guy already sent the deposit so why cancel on him for the one hour? This is still a game of numbers.

And as far as paying in advance to avoid the ncns if they are screening with you an pull that stuff....they accountability or lack of courtesy could be reported to their refs so that they know there not dependable clients.

You are correct.

[topsgt38801]

Naomi,

I said in my original response to this thread that I would not prepay. I normallly do not do 4 hour or longer dates or overnights, because my schedule just doesn't allow me the luxury. At most I can schedule 2 to 3 hours which is a stretch. Ninty minutes to two hours is about the best I can work out.

My point is if I were asking a lady for an overnight with me or asking her to drive several hundred miles to see me or fly to my location, at that point I would have no issue with prepaying 1/2 of the fee and picking up the expenses on the front end.
I would not expect any lady to go to that much trouble to see me and not guarantee her that she is not going to lose money because of me not keeping my end of the deal.

As far as me booking with her on a road trip and then she cancelled me because of someone offerring a 4 hour booking, at that point she would be dropped from my list. I firmly believe a verbal or pm arrangement that is firmly set is like a contract and should be adhered to by both sides. I experienced an issue where I had a date set with a lady and another lady I have been wanting to see for a long time was coming through the same location at the same time. We discussed and I affirmed my commitment to the other lady and would not and will not break a date I have set with any lady unless it is beyond my control.

I know you ladies are in the business to make money in most cases and you run into some unreputable characters that will not uphold their end of the bargain the same way we hobbyists encounter some of the same. I still believe in treating the lady properly and with dignity from scheduling the appoint all the way through the meeting and I expect the same courtesy from them. Enough for a book.

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[lisa.lisa0302]

Well this has gotten interesting. Good discussion going on here.

[Naomi4u]

topsgt38801,

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I said in my original response to this thread that I would not prepay. I normallly do not do 4 hour or longer dates or overnights, because my schedule just doesn't allow me the luxury. At most I can schedule 2 to 3 hours which is a stretch. Ninty minutes to two hours is about the best I can work out.

I understand

My point is if I were asking a lady for an overnight with me or asking her to drive several hundred miles to see me or fly to my location, at that point I would have no issue with prepaying 1/2 of the fee and picking up the expenses on the front end.
I would not expect any lady to go to that much trouble to see me and not guarantee her that she is not going to lose money because of me not keeping my end of the deal.

Exactly. That is what you are supposed to do.

As far as me booking with her on a road trip and then she cancelled me because of someone offerring a 4 hour booking, at that point she would be dropped from my list. I firmly believe a verbal or pm arrangement that is firmly set is like a contract and should be adhered to by both sides. I experienced an issue where I had a date set with a lady and another lady I have been wanting to see for a long time was coming through the same location at the same time. We discussed and I affirmed my commitment to the other lady and would not and will not break a date I have set with any lady unless it is beyond my control.

Personally I see no more than one guy a day here in the Carolinas. If the lady sees no more than one guy a day she should say so on her website. It will make things a lot easier for her. . When touring I also like to enjoy the city and not be confined to my hotel room. This is where communication is key. Talk to her and ask her what her plans for the day are. There are ways to arrange her schedule where she will still be able to see you especially if it is just a 4 hour appointment she is cancelling for.

I edited this post for a reason

I know you ladies are in the business to make money in most cases and you run into some unreputable characters that will not uphold their end of the bargain the same way we hobbyists encounter some of the same. I still believe in treating the lady properly and with dignity from scheduling the appoint all the way through the meeting and I expect the same courtesy from them. Enough for a book.

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Most definitely. If we didn't have NCNS and last minute cancellations topics like this won't even be started. Thank you so much for your input.

Going to have lunch now I will respond to others later...