Eccie has become ridiculous.

[paintedbynumbers]

This right here is everything in a nutshell and yes DJ, Gman, Bio, it really should be addressed. You brought in someone to be "temp help" and instead of helping he has ruined this site for many of us. Every single thing Blckstuff said is on point as did many other members. When one single guy is giving out this many points for such bs things it should raise eyebrows right? So instead of locking this thread how about we talk about it like adults? Seems like a good amount of us are experiencing the same issue so how about we work to resolve it?

Originally Posted by blckstuff412

I’m one point away from being banned… so I will be very particular about what I say…

This conversation needs to be had. The points I received on some of the topics are absolutely down right outrageous… and it is from the same mod… and I’m going to guess it’s the same mod that I’m sure others around here are dealing with. Of course I can’t confirm or deny who it was but…. Just sayin…

I will say this… we can’t even have a conversation without being told to get back on topic. We’re adults trying to have damn conversation and it’s not derailing any member from deriving the information that they came there for. If they don’t like what is being said…. You could ignore and move on.

Or even better! Join in the conversation that adults are having. Instead we’re being bombarded with keeping a topic… and 9 times out of 10 the topic is usually what we are discussing… just from a different approach or angle.

I don’t think this is an attack on staff. But this is definitely frustration that is being had by forum members.

[Zeman]

I got points for hijacking a thread. I don't even remember the thread itself. no warning nothing, just a curt email saying here's your points etc.

[AmishGangster]

To all of you who received what you feel are bogus points, do as DJ said earlier in this threAD and RTM all the PMs you got when you got those points. Or just PM DJ or Biomed and ask them to review your infractions. If staff agrees the points will be reversed, if they do not than while you may not like it (I certainly don’t like it) but thats how the owners want the site run currently whether we like it or not.

[tommy156]

The last time I got points, it was for doing the exact same thing a certain member does here CONSTANTLY. Many times every day, I see him doing the exact same thing I got written up for.

It's just insulting. And completely inconsistent. Obviously, not all members here are held to the same standards.

[El-mo]

Originally Posted by tommy156

The last time I got points, it was for doing the exact same thing a certain member does here CONSTANTLY. Many times every day, I see him doing the exact same thing I got written up for.

It's just insulting. And completely inconsistent. Obviously, not all members here are held to the same standards.

This is why I call bullshit when people say “you don’t know who else is getting infractions”. These people offend and re-offend every day. If the rules were being applied evenly, they would’ve been banned long ago

[HDGristle]

I'd wager a couple folks are closer to the magic number than they'd like because they've stopped engaging me directly post-Bamaban. I pay close attention to behavioral changes. Cause and effect.

Remember that we've seen some folks come back from a ban and get a new ban same day. So it's most certainly not a conservative bias. Guarantee you the usual voices have gotten plenty of warnings and points as well.

Remember that some folks are quite cagey. And while you think you're doing the same things they are, many times you aren't.

Have you noticed how certain folks stopped posting links ad nauseum and now pepper with snippets? Want to wager that's partially because of getting dinged for those links containing prohibited content?

You'll note you get baited astray on the threadjacks. Your insults are a bit too on the nose. Sometimes you're focusing on a person while your dance partner may be using loose, vague statements about "leftists" to avoid specifically insulting a member.

Think about it. The reality is that the missing ingredient in this shit sandwich is an instigator penalty. We're dealing with Matt Cooke level instigation. You're getting baited into taking the swing while the instigator gets to laugh and skate by as you go into the box.

I spent a month experimenting. Used the same tactics. Flooded the zone with things I wanted to talk about and watched how folks reacted to having 15 of my threads overtaking theirs every day and pushing things they wanted to page 2 and 3.

Trust me. It's easy to see the lines. It's easy to read the behavior. And it's easy to see why some folks may get disproportionate points in threads that staff are watching and still try going for the throat without connecting back to the OP.

The number one thing you can do to fight this particular issue isn't to get yourself banned. It's to starve a troll by not paying attention. Post your own threads instead of taking the bait. Thry literally feed off your attention. (That's some fun for J). Seriously, starve em. Don't make a whole thread about them either because that's targeting.

[AmishGangster]

Someone has learned the game, I find it amazing more haven’t figured it out

[Charley3]

Originally Posted by AmishGangster

Someone has learned the game, I find it amazing more haven’t figured it out

It’s not that simple. I can’t say what I really want to say but it isn’t that simple.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by El-mo

This is why I call bullshit when people say “you don’t know who else is getting infractions”. These people offend and re-offend every day. If the rules were being applied evenly, they would’ve been banned long ago

Yep. The table is obviously tilted in their favor. And I do mean obviously. That's why it's so insulting.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Remember that some folks are quite cagey. And while you think you're doing the same things they are, many times you aren't.

I get that, and I have learned to be a lot more cagey myself. But last time I got points, it was for using one of his own quotes against him. Verbatim. I used the exact words he said to me back to him. I was told I was "targeting" him. That is 100% bullshit. Nothing more, nothing less.

[El-mo]

Originally Posted by AmishGangster

Someone has learned the game, I find it amazing more haven’t figured it out

What game. This is a hooker board. Even if it were true that the trolls weren’t actually violating any policies but just baiting others to get infractions, how does that not go against the purpose of the board: a community sharing ideas and information. At best, it’s a direct attempt to limit the number of people contributing. That “game” is directly and intentionally detrimental to the health of the forum, and should be stopped.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by El-mo

What game. This is a hooker board. Even if it were true that the trolls weren’t actually violating any policies but just baiting others to get infractions, how does that not go against the purpose of the board: a community sharing ideas and information. At best, it’s a direct attempt to limit the number of people contributing. That “game” is directly and intentionally detrimental to the health of the forum, and should be stopped.

Amen

[jmichael]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

I'd wager a couple folks are closer to the magic number than they'd like because they've stopped engaging me directly post-Bamaban. I pay close attention to behavioral changes. Cause and effect.

Remember that we've seen some folks come back from a ban and get a new ban same day. So it's most certainly not a conservative bias. Guarantee you the usual voices have gotten plenty of warnings and points as well.

Remember that some folks are quite cagey. And while you think you're doing the same things they are, many times you aren't.

Have you noticed how certain folks stopped posting links ad nauseum and now pepper with snippets? Want to wager that's partially because of getting dinged for those links containing prohibited content?

You'll note you get baited astray on the threadjacks. Your insults are a bit too on the nose. Sometimes you're focusing on a person while your dance partner may be using loose, vague statements about "leftists" to avoid specifically insulting a member.

Think about it. The reality is that the missing ingredient in this shit sandwich is an instigator penalty. We're dealing with Matt Cooke level instigation. You're getting baited into taking the swing while the instigator gets to laugh and skate by as you go into the box.

I spent a month experimenting. Used the same tactics. Flooded the zone with things I wanted to talk about and watched how folks reacted to having 15 of my threads overtaking theirs every day and pushing things they wanted to page 2 and 3.

Trust me. It's easy to see the lines. It's easy to read the behavior. And it's easy to see why some folks may get disproportionate points in threads that staff are watching and still try going for the throat without connecting back to the OP.

The number one thing you can do to fight this particular issue isn't to get yourself banned. It's to starve a troll by not paying attention. Post your own threads instead of taking the bait. Thry literally feed off your attention. (That's some fun for J). Seriously, starve em. Don't make a whole thread about them either because that's targeting.

Is it that, or have they just blocked you?

[HDGristle]

First caused second. Very easy to understand.

Can't afford to engage, nor figure out how to get me pointed out. Have to ignore.

[AmishGangster]

Originally Posted by El-mo

What game. This is a hooker board. Even if it were true that the trolls weren’t actually violating any policies but just baiting others to get infractions, how does that not go against the purpose of the board: a community sharing ideas and information. At best, it’s a direct attempt to limit the number of people contributing. That “game” is directly and intentionally detrimental to the health of the forum, and should be stopped.

This particular hooker board has a lot more going on than just hooker talk, it always has. If you still haven’t figured it out you need to reread what HD is writing. This forum is far tamer post Fosta, rules got tighter and many of the antagonists didn’t return or are banned. But with the lack of relevant hooker talk more new people wander to other site areas and into the fire. Eccie is still here for profit, price per click and cost per impression.