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Old 11-27-2021, 07:20 PM   #46
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Taken out of context is bad. Trump tried to make a valid point.



However, Trump called the countries "shit-hole countries."

He should have mentioned their names or prepared a list. Then there could have been a 10 month discussion in the media discussing whether Trump was accurate or not.


"Senator, how do you define 'shit-hole' as it relates to a country ?"
"General, is country X a shit hole ?"
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Old 11-27-2021, 07:29 PM   #47
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Taken out of context is bad. Trump tried to make a valid point.



However, Trump called the countries "shit-hole countries."

He should have mentioned their names or prepared a list. Then there could have been a 10 month discussion in the media discussing whether Trump was accurate or not.


"Senator, how do you define 'shit-hole' as it relates to a country ?"
"General, is country X a shit hole ?"
No. Shithole countries are shithole countries. Perfect text.
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Old 11-27-2021, 08:09 PM   #48
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We survived 4 years of Trump....we'll survive Biden exactly the same. With half the country proclaiming "How can we survive this?!"

I would think you are old enough to understand this Chicken Little crap. Maybe wisdom does not come with age for all.
There are many of us who would rather do more than just “survive”.
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Old 11-27-2021, 10:12 PM   #49
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The 2nd point of contention also involves context.


Trump had been calling countries shitholes , there was Charlottesville and he was starting a trade war.

And ftr....I agree Trump got a bad rap as far as media/opponents selectivity editing his full text.
Too right - you agree! Because you're starting to
surely look-about at things and you are seeing that
what we claim is TRUE.
They "selectively edit" Trump all the time!
And even create FALSE stories - like the phony dossier.

Now you lads may hate Trump's personality - that's fine.
But the bloke DID have the country humming along
when He was on. Even-with ALL THE LIES told about
Him in a sad attempt to RUIN His Presidency.

But you're growing by leaps and bounds, mate.
Next you might be claiming that some of our
voting claims may be TRUE also.

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Old 11-27-2021, 11:25 PM   #50
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What TF you talking about?

Trump was cubism. Lot of angles and none of them made any sense. Boorish, vulgar personality aside, will be remembered as the very worst effort this country has ever put forth.

The country was humming along just fine before he rose to power and continues to hum in spite of the recovery… from his regime and the virus that he was unable to bullshit.

In his wake are the millions of now disenfranchised fiddles he played so easily, who yet rage and …

Awww pshaw….he’s a piece of shit.
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Old 11-27-2021, 11:39 PM   #51
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What TF you talking about?

Trump was cubism. Lot of angles and none of them made any sense. Boorish, vulgar personality aside, will be remembered as the very worst effort this country has ever put forth.

The country was humming along just fine before he rose to power and continues to hum in spite of the recovery… from his regime and the virus that he was unable to bullshit.

In his wake are the millions of now disenfranchised fiddles he played so easily, who yet rage and …

Awww pshaw….he’s a piece of shit.



your version of America is a sad disgrace to the true ideals that founded this nation. remember that every time you look in the mirror.
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Old 11-28-2021, 06:43 AM   #52
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It’s not clear Biden even knew about Trump’s China travel restrictions when he called Trump xenophobic on the day the restrictions were unveiled; Biden has never explicitly linked his accusation of xenophobia to these travel restrictions.
That’s a fine example of CNN running cover for the senile old fool. “It’s not clear”? Oh, it’s crystal clear, Trump threw the remarks in his face 100 times and he didn’t deny making them, not to mention every other democrat who parroted the same sentiment and now prove themselves complete hypocrites.
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Old 11-28-2021, 06:44 AM   #53
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November 24, 2021:
South Africa tells Pfizer they don't want more shipments of the vaccine.

November 26, 2021:
WHO says that the Omicron variant was discovered in South Africa on November 24, 2021.

November 26, 2021 onwards:
Many countries rush to ban flights and immigration from South Africa.

Did Pfizer collaborate with the WHO to punish South Africa for refusing more shipments of the vaccine?

sources:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ay-news24-says
https://www.who.int/news/item/26-11-...ant-of-concern
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Old 11-28-2021, 08:29 AM   #54
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Too right - you agree! Because you're starting to
surely look-about at things and you are seeing that
what we claim is TRUE.
They "selectively edit" Trump all the time!
And even create FALSE stories - like the phony dossier.

y
OMG...you are being so naive!

Of course the media distorts what each side says. They are a business that caters to their viewers wants!

It wasn't a phony dossier the Media just made up.

It is their job to report and like say a virus...we learned more and more. Trump did himself no favor hiring Paul Manafort, who was paid by pro Russian forces. Then pardoning the SOB for not reporting the income. So the narrative about Trump being pissed on may have been a stretch but there were others things worth reporting.



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But the bloke DID have the country humming along
when He was on. Even-with ALL THE LIES told about
Him in a sad attempt to RUIN His Presidency.
That you think TRUMP the reason the economy was doing ok....a far cry from the best ever....as Trump continually lied about. To the point that you and others may believe that bs. Look...I believe in the power of the business cycles. I believe the Fed has the power to move Presidents poll numbers. Just ask Trump after the 2018 midterm after he started crying fo negative intrest rates.

And a Trump lover crying about lies....how poetic.


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Him in a sad attempt to RUIN His Presidency.

But you're growing by leaps and bounds, mate.
Next you might be claiming that some of our
voting claims may be TRUE also.

#### Salty
The luck of the draw on the business cycles determines Presidents legacy, not the media. You think Reagan could have peddled his "tax cuts solve everything" bs without a favorable business cycle. Clinton hit the business cycle lottery too.


You voting claims are sour grapes.

The stats enacted new voting laws due to Covid....them the rules you play by on election day.

Both Gore and Trump tried to rewrite history and failed...although Trump may have done way way more damage to our trust in democracy than any othe person in this country's history.

Trump is a snake oil salesman...always has been and always will be. I was never a fan. He is the definition of woke.
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Old 11-28-2021, 08:47 AM   #55
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November 24, 2021:
South Africa tells Pfizer they don't want more shipments of the vaccine.

November 26, 2021:
WHO says that the Omicron variant was discovered in South Africa on November 24, 2021.

November 26, 2021 onwards:
Many countries rush to ban flights and immigration from South Africa.

Did Pfizer collaborate with the WHO to punish South Africa for refusing more shipments of the vaccine?

sources:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ay-news24-says
https://www.who.int/news/item/26-11-...ant-of-concern
Interesting.

Did you ever notice how you never see Clark Kent and Superman in the same room?
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Old 11-28-2021, 12:22 PM   #56
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Just like the Supreme Court justice said, I can't describe a shithole country but I know one when I see one.
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Old 11-28-2021, 12:43 PM   #57
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There are many of us who would rather do more than just “survive”.
Well the market is up 7-8k points.
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Old 11-28-2021, 01:33 PM   #58
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Just like the Supreme Court justice said, I can't describe a shithole country but I know one when I see one.
Who said that?
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Old 11-28-2021, 02:01 PM   #59
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Who said that?

It is a slightly different version of Justice Stewart Potter on an obscenity case when asked what pornography is he said "I know it when I see it" but I'll bet you already knew that.
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Old 11-28-2021, 07:57 PM   #60
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I piss off at it I lost 12k dollars on Friday feel so piss as thoese Africans
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