$160 - $200 Half Hour Rate Trend??

[snaggletooth77]

yeah dante, I agree, there are those real unfortunate waste of time and $$$ experiences, (may commonly be those w/ very temporary Provider Showcase, 0 reviews, then nowhere to be found after short period of time elapsed) that advertise what one may consider rip-off prices. however, but when you see more than quite a few of the reputable providers doing it also(w/o naming any names), it should be pretty straightforward educated guess as to why a hh 120 goes to 160 over the course of one year...

[AustinHotGuy]

Originally Posted by dante0322

Lets not forget the few who charge $200/hhr and want to talk for first 20 mins then want everything concluded in next 10 mins. In addition, some of the $$$++ hr appts will use first 45 mins of convo then want to conclude in next 15 mins.

haha yeah I'm not one for much conversation, eff all that! If they don't like it...that's their prob! If I wanted to pay someone to just talk...I'd just call up any one of my girlfriends haha!

[JennsLolli]

It's weird, because my few half hour dates are generally the same experience as many of my full hour dates. I personally don't advertise hhs very often, since it can attract an iffy crowd, but a lot of my regulars only need that time and some first-timers use the time very well. And of course, there's a stigma attached.

If you do like a bit of a chat, a drink, a cuddle and expect a nice hot shower and a re-group, an hour is the way to go. But in my years of experience, most half hours with a chat and a shower run 45 minutes and many hours can't re-group for a second pop and leave in 50. As previously mentioned, the prep and energy level is the same. If no shower is required and you know you're only good for a single strong pop...then why not hh? I personally am apt to only provide that to established clients, but am not too resistant for those who request it. Same for french-only requests when I know that's all the client is really seeking.

[Guest021716-4]

ALWAYS so Elequent, Ms.Lolli!!

[tattooed_asian_kim]

HERE ARE SOME REASONS WHY THIS SCENE IS UNEVEN :

1. The providers are independent + can charge whatever they want to.

2. Not all providers have the same degree of motivation. Some of us need to produce a higher profit, at a faster pace. Some of us are part time + don't need to do this as urgently.

3. Not all clients are penny pinchers on a budget, like you are.

4. "Hot" is very subjective + The male sexual aperture widens with age. Not all guys are turned on + off by the same things as you are.

5. Not all clients compare "their current opportunities" to those that have passed in the past. Sometimes, you have hotter sex + Some times, it is "not as good" , but ... a lot of clients "live in the present," which is the best attitude to have in this hobby. Otherwise, you will be constantly hung up on "passed opportunities."

6. For every guy who thinks something "is not worth it," there is another guy, who can't wait to do that exact thing because "it is worth it" for him personally. I did a $ 500 per hour PSE appointment LAST WEEK + The client was very appreciative + He enjoyed himself A LOT !!!

[tattooed_asian_kim]

I have spent almost three months in ATX total, since last summer !!!
I always read the message board here, when I visit !!!
I noticed SO MANY threads by cheap clients, where rates are BASHED !!!



A more constructive discussion could be started on "WAYS TO COME UP WITH THAT EXTRA $30."

I will start in with my own GET RICH SLOW scheme + This one is EASY TO DO because it requires very little investment and space ...

SAVE CEREAL BOXES ( FOLDED UP ) + SELL THEM OFF AS "VINTAGE" IN 25 YEARS !!! Seriously, that one has an insane rate of return + It is just CEREAL BOXES FOLDED UP !!!

I have some other ideas for "generating income." PM me for details.

I WANT LESS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW "YOU DO NOT WANT TO PROVIDERS TO GET PAID" !!!

[Stanfeld]

I dislike tattoos.

[fun2come]

Originally Posted by tattooed_asian_kim

SAVE CEREAL BOXES ( FOLDED UP ) + SELL THEM OFF AS "VINTAGE" IN 25 YEARS !!! Seriously, that one has an insane rate of return + It is just CEREAL BOXES FOLDED UP !!!

Great, IF I can still get one up, I'll see you in 25 years, but ONLY IF you don't raise your rates by then.

They'll probably have come down by then, so I am going to skip the storage costs (cause one needs to store these boxes properly or they'll be worthless) and spend that money NOW while I still can.

See you in 25 years, gee I hope I don't lose my phone and that my car will start, wonder where those keys might be.

[Guest031715-1]

Originally Posted by AustinHotGuy

Shouldn't we remind the providers that charging more than $150 for half hour is unreasonable?.

I'm so glad I charge a flat 150 atm so you are spared my response to you trying to remind me of what my services, and apparently my body, are worth.

whoooooooboy!

[Toyz]

Originally Posted by tattooed_asian_kim

I have spent almost three months in ATX total, since last summer !!!
I always read the message board here, when I visit !!!
I noticed SO MANY threads by cheap clients, where rates are BASHED !!!



A more constructive discussion could be started on "WAYS TO COME UP WITH THAT EXTRA $30."

I will start in with my own GET RICH SLOW scheme + This one is EASY TO DO because it requires very little investment and space ...

SAVE CEREAL BOXES ( FOLDED UP ) + SELL THEM OFF AS "VINTAGE" IN 25 YEARS !!! Seriously, that one has an insane rate of return + It is just CEREAL BOXES FOLDED UP !!!

I have some other ideas for "generating income." PM me for details.

I WANT LESS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW "YOU DO NOT WANT TO PROVIDERS TO GET PAID" !!!

You are completely missing the point...when top end girls like Charilee & Daddys Girl can "afford" to provide excellent service at a slightly lower rate, why should anyone worry about "coming up with another $30"?

You can charge what you want...and cater to those customers...whats the problem with those of us who just refuse to pay more?

Its your opinion that your (and others) rates are fair. Its some of our opinions that the rates are spiraling out of control. Each has their argument...

In the end, it will always be a buyers market. All we hear is how none of you are "hurting for business" so why would you care that a few girls & guys are agreeing to see each other for a fee you find inappropriate? Is it honestly any of your business at all? We ARE the customers...you are offering a service at a price...it is our right to express disenchantment or approval on said rates & services...

I will never out any girls, but some that are arguing on here to justify their (sometimes increased) rates have seen others for way below that (maybe even me )... You aren't a union & never will be...its a free trade market. Rates can be flexible...up to the two parties to work that out...

quit being a communist and support our capitalistic marketplace....

[tattooed_asian_kim]

"In the end, it will always be a buyers market. " -- TOYZ

JUST IN TERMS OF "ECONOMIC DISCOURSE," THE HOBBY IS NOT SIMPLY ABOUT "SUPPLY AND DEMAND."

PROVIDERS' PAY IS INSIDE OF SEVERAL "ECONOMIC BUBBLES." FOR ONE, WE GET PAID "ENTERTAINMENT PAY" WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM OTHER "SKIILL SETS AND SALARIES." WE GET PAID THE WAY FAMOUS PEOPLE GET PAID. SECOND OF ALL, WE ARE ALL "INDEPENDENT FREELANCE" WORKERS IN A "GIG ECONOMY." IT WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AS "YOUR JOB."

[Toyz]

Originally Posted by tattooed_asian_kim

"In the end, it will always be a buyers market. " -- TOYZ

JUST IN TERMS OF "ECONOMIC DISCOURSE," THE HOBBY IS NOT SIMPLY ABOUT "SUPPLY AND DEMAND."

PROVIDERS' PAY IS INSIDE OF SEVERAL "ECONOMIC BUBBLES." FOR ONE, WE GET PAID "ENTERTAINMENT PAY" WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM OTHER "SKIILL SETS AND SALARIES." WE GET PAID THE WAY FAMOUS PEOPLE GET PAID. SECOND OF ALL, WE ARE ALL "INDEPENDENT FREELANCE" WORKERS IN A "GIG ECONOMY." IT WILL NEVER BE THE SAME AS "YOUR JOB."

"We get paid the way famous people get paid"

Ahhhh, ok...actually you get paid the way temp workers get paid. By the 1/2 or hour mostly with sporadic & undefined schedules. With no medical, no benefits, no 401K, retirement, benefits, paid vacation, no real benefits to tenure etc.... Thank God you are there, but if you aren't someone will step up to the plate tomorrow.

it is ABSOLUTELY a buyers market dictated by supply, demand, quality...akin to buying a pair of shoes...{{{is this a good pair of shoes? Will I get long use out of them? Will they be comfortable? Is there a perceived value in these shoes?}}}

I'm not trying to burst your Illusion TAK...but it is what it is.

[Sexy Katrina]

Originally Posted by Toyz

"We get paid the way famous people get paid"

Ahhhh, ok...actually you get paid the way temp workers get paid. By the 1/2 or hour mostly with sporadic & undefined schedules. With no medical, no benefits, no 401K, retirement, benefits, paid vacation, no real benefits to tenure etc.... Thank God you are there, but if you aren't someone will step up to the plate tomorrow.

it is ABSOLUTELY a buyers market dictated by supply, demand, quality...akin to buying a pair of shoes...{{{is this a good pair of shoes? Will I get long use out of them? Will they be comfortable? Is there a perceived value in these shoes?}}}

I'm not trying to burst your Illusion TAK...but it is what it is.

It IS a buyers market and each buyer can decide if they want to pay a providers rate or not. If there was no demand for us we wouldn't be around. I think you made a good point though about how we have crazy schedules since we are almost " on call ". We get no 401K,retirement, or vacations.

[Toyz]

Originally Posted by Sexy Katrina

It IS a buyers market and each buyer can decide if they want to pay a providers rate or not. If there was no demand for us we wouldn't be around. I think you made a good point though about how we have crazy schedules since we are almost " on call ". We get no 401K,retirement, or vacations.

I wasn't trying to belittle the profession SK...just bringing reality to TAK....its (normally) a short window for some to make a few bucks...and I see SO MANY just blow through every dollar as soon as they get it instead of using just a modicum of business sense and putting away a few bucks.

Hence the monthly salmon run to make rent money....Damn...put back 1/2 of every session until the rent is covered...phone is covered...car payment..etc...THEN blow the rest and party...

This could be (and is) a decent income for some if they would use the cash better.

[tattooed_asian_kim]

TOYZ ... I HAVE PROFESSIONAL PHOTOS + I TOUR THE USA + THERE ARE TIMES WHEN I JUST GET FREE MONEY, LIKE A LOW LEVEL CELEBRITY. THE "ENTERTAINMENT ECONOMIC MODEL" IS FITTING. I DON'T IDENTIFY AS A "CELEBRITY." I WOULD BE EMBARRASSED TO CALL MYSELF THAT. HOWEVER, MY INCOME IS INFLATED BY FAME + I GET FREEBIES AND HAND OUTS THE WAY A FAMOUS PERSON DOES. THERE IS NO TEMP THAT GETS PAID THAT WAY. THERE ARE CLIENTS OUT THERE WITH A "STAR STRUCK" ATTITUDE TOWARDS CERTAIN PROVIDERS + THE MORE FAMOUS A PROVIDER IS * ; THE MORE MONEY SHE WILL MAKE. THERE IS ALSO CROSS OVER WITH THE REAL ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS IN LOS ANGELES WITH PORN STAR PROVIDERS. WHAT TEMP JOB IS LIKE THIS ? THERE ARE NONE.

* PROVIDER FAME IS VERY "BIG FISH IN THE SMALL POND," BUT THIS BUSINESS IS PART OF "THE ENTERTAINMENT ECONOMY". IT IS NOT "MANUAL LABOR" WITH HANDJOBS.

WHEN I LIVED IN NEW YORK CITY, A LOT OF THE FINANCES GUYS USED TO DESCRIBE THE HOBBY THIS WAY + THESE ARE GUYS WHO WENT TO HARVARD FOR FINANCE ... I TRUST THEIR KNOWLEDGE.