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02-15-2013, 01:51 PM
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The first and most basic mistake people make in debating Creationism versus Evolution is confusing evolution (notice the lack of proper name) with the Theory of Evolution.
Evolution is a proven scientific fact. We know species evolve over time to adapt to changes in their environment. We can observe these changes both in nature and in a lab setting. The ability of species to adapt is why we have MRSA, why we are now terrified that we are losing the ability to treat gonorrhea, and why we are continually developing new classes of antibiotics. The ability of species to evolve is why countries go to great lengths to ensure that foreign species are not inadvertently introduced into ecosystems.
The THEORY of Evolution is an entirely different story though. Evolution as a scientific principle focuses on micro-evolution, ie evolution within a species. The Theory of Evolution attempts to examine how micro-evolutionary changes over millennia eventually lead to separate and distinct species emerging from previously existing species. It is an attempt to tell the story of the development of humankind from our earliest beginnings, as well as trace the evolution of every other species. There are, and will always be gaps in the Theory of Evolution. That is WHY it is a "theory" and not a law.
Furthermore, there is no reason why a person cannot both believe in God (any God), while at the same time giving credence to evolution as scientific fact, and accepting the Theory of Evolution as a viable theory. The Bible, Koran, Torah, pick your poison, tells us WHAT God did (or didn't do if you don't believe), science only seeks to tell us HOW.
Though I do not believe in the Bible, I do find it fascinating that the story of creation as told in Genesis does follow the same progression of events that scientists now describe. Even the emergence of species - first the animals of the sea, then the birds of the air, then the creatures that walk on land, and finally us - parallels how scientists believe life developed. The Bible states that God created the green grass and vegetation before the seas were filled with life, so they got that part wrong, but it gets the rest more or less correct. Pretty nifty coincidence, eh?
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02-15-2013, 02:06 PM
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Nifty indeed.
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02-15-2013, 02:44 PM
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Again Moses wrote the book of Genesis nearly 3,500 years ago. How, if not told to him by the creator, does his storty match that which sciencetist thearoize about today?
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02-15-2013, 02:54 PM
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Hey, Assup! Did I take a side in the debate? Did I say Intelligent Design defeats evolution? Did I make ANY religious statement at all? That's right, no I did not.
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You are the biggest fence sitter on here, you never take a side
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02-15-2013, 02:56 PM
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Again Moses wrote the book of Genesis nearly 3,500 years ago. How, if not told to him by the creator, does his storty match that which sciencetist thearoize about today?
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Simple really...
Moses is Darwins great great great granddaddy!
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02-15-2013, 03:01 PM
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o. Life on this planet must have an extra terrestrial source.[/FONT]
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ET phoooone hoooome! So you believe that ET made us and hasn't fuc'd with us or sjown his face since?
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02-15-2013, 03:03 PM
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no matter what you believe about evolution, it doesnt have the answers, the questions remain, and the unknown and unknowable yield to a Force or God, if you will.
the universe and its mysteries are far beyond a tree frog's adaptation
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did god beat your ass with a bsseball bat?
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02-15-2013, 03:08 PM
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OK First... you assholes that are judging anyone for what they do or don't believe are fuckheads.
Second... I do not believe for one single second that MY GOD is limited to linear time. It's even been said in scripture that a day is like a 1000 years and a 1000 years is like a day. Fuck you guys that think God is limited by ANYTHING you small dicked assholes say.
To answer the question of the OP... how are we judging a day? It is God's day or our irrelevant 24 hour spin of a planet. Are ya seeing how stupid it is to even suggest it was 7 rotations of our planet in our linear time?
Do you know how big the universe is?
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I love how you judge people that judge you and then bitch about their judging! and what this 'your god' shit! whete is he at? show her to me!
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02-15-2013, 03:10 PM
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PS I suppose in a way, I'm doggin people that think God is limited... so I'm a fuckhead. AT least I own it. Mutherfuckers.
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just saw this, god for you!
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02-15-2013, 03:14 PM
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I love how you judge people that judge you and then bitch about their judging! and what this 'your god' shit! whete is he at? show her to me!
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you're an idiot WTF, but you are this room's idiot and its entertainment of sorts so keep it up
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02-15-2013, 03:15 PM
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But I have prayed and I have witnessed what I believe was a miracle.
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Praying for pussy and getting some don't count as a miracle! If I'm wrong...then 'Thank ya Jesus for all my miracles!'
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02-15-2013, 03:18 PM
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We can go to an Astro game
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you're an idiot WTF, but you are this room's idiot and its entertainment of sorts so keep it up
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I wish to God you hadn't told me your baseball bat story. I know I shouldn't joke but I can't help myself! Please cime to Houston and let me buy you a beer!
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02-15-2013, 03:20 PM
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I wish to God you hadn't told me your baseball bat story. I know I shouldn't joke but I can't help myself! Please cime to Houston and let me buy you a beer!
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i get there periodically
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02-15-2013, 03:22 PM
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Praying for pussy and getting some don't count as a miracle! If I'm wrong...then 'Thank ya Jesus for all my miracles!'
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It is in your case. It's right in there with parting the Red Sea.
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02-15-2013, 03:24 PM
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i get there periodically
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We sandbox mongrels should all get together and have TheDollyLama pray us up some pussy and turn us some water into whiskey!
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