TRAITS OF A UPSCALE,HIGH CLASS PROVIDER

[Guest121613]

I am fortunate to have worked for the same company for many years, and it much more global now than it was 20 years ago. I have had many different and wonderful jobs within my company, and the dress code varies. Typically at my company, if you are in front of the customer, it is a suit and tie. I managed large customer account as one of the many jobs I had, and dressing up was neat, but I did not like wearing ties, and well I sort have to with a suit.

Some areas in america are more causal. Particulary, in software engineers, or other creative jobs, where sometime a too formal atmosphere can stifle creativity. Also, California is more casual.

For the most part, where I work, no one is going to get fired for a dress code, but do know there are strict companies out there.

Your note caught me concerning European men. I have had global training in my business education, to understand cultures, and what is considered polite, and what could be rude.

Anyway, I was on a video conference with the high level European execs for the company I am employed. It was odd to see they were all white males, whereas the american side, diversity places a big role in advancement, and is legislated. I found the European execs to be juvenile, yet looked old. Meaning they were flippant, and dressed terribly for a universal audience, and were 50+ in years compared to the US side. The guy from France had his shirt unbuttoned halfway down, and his suit coat looked like it had never been dry cleaned. The posture and presentation was poor, and although I knew they were importance people, I had trouble taking them seriously because of my own paradigm. So in the US, a little more poise and neater attire was expected. I do agree the differences are interesting, and can be appreciated, and do see if I get to got Europe on business, I need not bring a tie, LOL.

In previous experience with Europeans in my business, it was always a conference call, so I had no clue what they looked like. I have weekly calls with Ireland, and I really enjoy the calls. There is blend of business, and some jovial fun. Whenever a we have a gap in the jargon, it usually makes for a good laugh. The Irish don't seem to mind talking politics, and tried to figure out who would win the next election, and they are very concerned we will be like Greece. I like how the Irish have a more festive approach, and always end the calls with "cheers" instead of good-bye.

I find ironic, that some of my favorite providers are of Irish decent, and to them I have a little funny verse.

"The emerald isle may be green,
there is no gold nor leprachaun treats
True Irish treasure be found,
it is pink and can be found in the sheets

hope that is not too cheesy

I would have no problems with the american business women dressing a little sexier if they all did it, and I could get use to it. The few that do, provide too much of a distraction for me. But does provide self discipline, as I need to look them in the eyes when i talk to them is instead of undressing them with me eyes, LOL.

Originally Posted by ninasastri

As far as I learned, the corporate culture in the USA has some extremely strict rules that do not necessarily apply to people in Europe for example. That starts with the dress code, that is extremely rigid in the USA, and a little less rigid in Europe. I heard people in the USA can get fired if they do not dress accordingly, and in "accordingly" I mean wear a light pink shirt in a corporate setting (bank, law firm, etc.) instead of an "off white" one. That kind of strict.
Of course suits and non-sexy business outfits for ladies are a must here as well, but it`s not demanded that ladies wear skirts or such things. So as an escort you also have to dress according to these rules, otherwise you get unwanted attention, be it for being exotic , and no client wants to be the center of attention specially when with an escort .

What kind of behaviour are you referring to? I kind of personally like these small little differences, because it makes the world a more interesting place to be. It`s always an eye opener when you "question" behaviours or habits (lol):
"Why do they to THAT? Oh, it actually DOES make sense, aha... )) "

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by lostforkate

yes, i infrequently smoke, and people can smell it on me immediately. and I can smell the smoke on others, but... I know a few providers that smoke, and I find it amazing that I can't tell (even when I have not smoked). I would like to know their secret?

Here some "smoking" hot ladies . Catherine Deneuve and Keira Knightley.

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by lostforkate

Your note caught me concerning European men. I have had global training in my business education, to understand cultures, and what is considered polite, and what could be rude.

Anyway, I was on a video conference with the high level European execs for the company I am employed. It was odd to see they were all white males, whereas the american side, diversity places a big role in advancement, and is legislated. I found the European execs to be juvenile, yet looked old. Meaning they were flippant, and dressed terribly for a universal audience, and were 50+ in years compared to the US side. The guy from France had his shirt unbuttoned halfway down, and his suit coat looked like it had never been dry cleaned. The posture and presentation was poor, and although I knew they were importance people, I had trouble taking them seriously because of my own paradigm. So in the US, a little more poise and neater attire was expected. I do agree the differences are interesting, and can be appreciated, and do see if I get to got Europe on business, I need not bring a tie, LOL.

In previous experience with Europeans in my business, it was always a conference call, so I had no clue what they looked like. I have weekly calls with Ireland, and I really enjoy the calls. There is blend of business, and some jovial fun. Whenever a we have a gap in the jargon, it usually makes for a good laugh. The Irish don't seem to mind talking politics, and tried to figure out who would win the next election, and they are very concerned we will be like Greece. I like how the Irish have a more festive approach, and always end the calls with "cheers" instead of good-bye.

These are funny things. Yes I know such people, too. The ones who dress as if their suit has never been dry cleaned . With the bias for white people, I think you are correct , as well. In Europe, although you have a lot of different cultures, we are not as "diverse" within ethinicities like the US are. That is correct. Which also sometimes leads to stereotypical judgements of the USA as all prudes and hypocrites, because Europeans do not seem to get that diversity of culture and alternative cultures also means a lot of different opinions that can be considered "extreme".

However, there is a vast diversity of opinions, and only the most extreme make it around the world. These are the religious agendas and some political statements as well. But there has to be seen the background as well.
In Europe people tend to be "birds of all feathers" but not "too extreme", but biased in one or two more prevalent directions.

So, yes, there is a lack of cultural and ethnic diversity, although we have very different ethnicities and cultures in each of our separate countries in Europe, but they tend to be biased in certain ways - from country to country.

For example, in Austria and Germany we have a high percentage of turkish, russian, and general eastern european immigrants, and not so many immigrants from other cultures, also not western europe. Well, nowadays the germans seem to float Switzerland and AUstria as well..., and switzerland seems to be floated by anyone from Austria, Germany, Spain, and Portugal, and also Italy, and France, since all ethnicities and languages are Prevalent there ))). There is also a language barrier as well, that limits high skilled immigration to some extent, which means limits it to jobs where english speaking can be needed (IT and engineering, I think it does not matter if you speak the languages. I know some foreign engineers who make a ridiculous amount of money in Switzerland or whereveer, and they have no idea of german at all )....).

So, ok , you see different cultures, but only 2 or 3 of them . And unfortunately , yes, more white-ish, I am not sure that has anything to do with less diversity, but rather with the amount of presence of "other than white ethnicities". It`s not like the USA, where based on the fact, that you guys are based on immigration and people from "outside" floated in (or still float in) to some extent.
So that might explain the lack of diversity.

As to poise and attire: Sometimes people in Europe are very skilled, but don`t get taught how to present themselves properly. That is especially valid with the "elder" people. You guys are more up top date with the latest technologies, and how to use them to enhance your presentation, while I know some people in Europe who refuse to even type on a computer ) (lol). Plus, we don`t do so much the "acting" like americans do, which is necessary in your enviroment, since competition basis is higher than in Europe and social security and job security lower as well. It is easier to get fired in the US, that said.
In Europe generally (not everywhere, for example portuguese are super skilled also in presentation and very eager to adapt and funny) the "acting" while presenting "facts" is not "overdone". So presentations are poorly, that can be true. It`s like "here are the facts, if you want them in pink and with a nice flower around, go ahead, but that is not my business )"

(Which reminds me of a funny episode at my last job I quit a longer while ago: The IT things were not working, and they continued to not work. I wrote an email with no "Hello" and no "sincerely" at the end. I just wrote : "This is not working - again - fix it, please".

The IT guy was annoyed at the unpolite email and he sent it to my boss and I got an email saying that I should be a little properly behaved when I explain something in an email, how should people guess what I mean, and also, we are required to write a proper speech when sending emails. I just wrote back that a) the IT guy knew what I meant, because he knew the problem, I explained it with screenshots yesterday, so no need to send screenshots agaion. Plus, when I work under pressure and need this fixed NOW, because I am very busy, I do unfortunately not have time to send him flowers with a postcard and a nice bonbonniere if I need that fixed ASAP.

Well, my boss understood, she did not know - of course - that the problem was an old one, and the IT guys are incompetent, usually . And everyone knew that, and people were complaining about them. Then they were "hitting back" with emails like mine, blaming it back on us, that they are incompetent, because the co-workers only write emails like "that", and how are they supposed to know what I meant ). And I did not see it as my business that they don`t exchange information and one guy does not know what the other one did yesterday. Aaaarghhh... But that of pins it down to the "necessary" information given - thingie )

On the other hand, sometimes americans can be seen as too "over the top" presenting their point so bad and neat, that it can be perceived for europeans as a little overdoing the topic. It`s like they need to be on top at all times, which can be preceived as annoying (I am just saying that to counterportray your vision, not as offensive).

Hahaha, about the Irish and the "Greece comparison" - that is funny! The Irish have a dark and fun humour. . That is exactly the kind of "humour" probabl considered offensive in the USA, but it is meant in good fun to provoke a counterstatement similarly funny. Try some jokes about beer next time .

[Guest121613]

Thanks for further explanation. I did not mean the lack of diversity to be a criticism of Europeans. It is just diversity here in the states was overdone many years ago to the point of ad nauseam, and now is in inbred into the culture, and in hindsight a good thing, it was a noticeable contrast, but when you think about, it was easily understood as the demographics are much different.

Things that are the same among execs from both continents, are vague discussions, and not really answering any questions asked, as well as lack of understanding of the nuts and bolts of the organization, and being an engineer myself, it is very disturbing to watch. Many american companies has gone by the wayside by mismanagement. There is point though when executive jobs require politically understanding, and succeeding in a global environment, and more important than technical understanding... a successful company, the execs need to understand both, the technical and the global.

Yes, I have had beer discussion with the Irish. I had a Guinness many years ago, and asked about that little canister thingy in the bottle, and i got an 3 minute explanation on hot to properly drink a guinness, I did not say, I would rather have Beck's.

I must admit, I need to get a passport. I am not an exec, but the discussions with Irish lead me to want make a business trip. I am not Irish, but seem to like there views on life.

[angiesummers]

The ability to be a whore in the bedroom and a lady in the living room.

[blinkq45]

Originally Posted by Mya Michelle

Honestly the majority of providers smoke period lol. From Upscale to Street walkers lol

As a client and under the right setting, I am ok with a provider lighting up in my presence. As a matter of fact, if the women is hot and sexy then I actually find the act of a beautiful woman smoking to be sexy.

Just my take.

[Guest121613]

I have noticed some providers only communicate via email or texting for tcb. Some of these providers refuse to engage in any other dialogue.
A few of my favorites will send a note, or even make small talk, and well I think that is trait of an upscale provider. I know time is money, but what are ur thoughts about extra communiques? How much is too much?

[Alejandra]

I like taking the time to send texts when a client shows a penchant for that method. It makes for a more relaxed communication, and serves to establish rapport. It also gives both parties a better feel for one another. In addition, since I work a 9-5, as do most callers, I can communicate with them in a private manner. Once we have established a face to face contact, and all has gone according to plan, all written communications are deleted.

[KittyLamour]

When I think of upscale, classy and truly elite escorts... I think of Claudia Cole. I admire her tremendously.
http://www.claudiacole.com/

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by lostforkate

I have noticed some providers only communicate via email or texting for tcb. Some of these providers refuse to engage in any other dialogue.
A few of my favorites will send a note, or even make small talk, and well I think that is trait of an upscale provider. I know time is money, but what are ur thoughts about extra communiques? How much is too much?

I can only speak for myself, since I tend to be pretty "unique" with not providing a phone number at all (lol). Reason is simple: I have extensive working experience in call centers for longer periods of time selling products on the phone, doing customer support. After these long years, I developed the habit to get panik attacks when just seing or hearing a phone ... (lol). This very well also goes for my private life. I just plain hate telephone calls (unless arranged prior to just give an overall impression of voice and such things, which is sometimes necessary to make people feel comfortable, or to loosen up things and axieties ...)

That said, it really bothers me that at some point people seem to be so dependent on their phones and "smart phones" nowadays, that they can`t even go out for a dinner without texting and looking into that thing minimum 20 times. It is funny to watch ....

I prefer texts and mails (rather mails than texts, honestly), because they are easy, and do not disturb me or interrupt me or bother me or make me feel pressed to do something. I tend to exchange phone numbers only when booking is made and just to confirm the meeting and the arrival, in case something changes last minute.

Most I prefer skype, because you can see someone, which makes a difference for me. But voices babbeling in my ear is something I don`t even do for really good friends. In fact I have the habit to sometimes wish , that in the times I do need to make a call , I reach voice mail and don`t need to talk personally )..
Crazy I know, but - again - blame the selling on phone thingie I subjected myself through in my younger days. It is stressful, and I know a lot pf people who professionally have to work with the so called "new media" or phones or whatever, that they don`t do that in private life so often. And escorting is for me - a little "private" thing , too, in the sense that I don`t want to subject myself to do anything I would not choose to do. Ot feel comfortable with.

Since chemistry is important, a phone call out of duty ( or politeness) can sometimes destroy more than it helps in terms of chemistry, or having fun.

Interestingly enough, I am long-winded in many things, but when it comes to bookings, I tend to focus on the most important things. And keep it short and simple. For me that has worked best, so far.

I also have the habit of getting really upset, when I specifically told a client that the number I give him is ONLY and ONLY for the day we meet, and never to be used again. Some do ignore that and resort to set up apppointments via text messages or
even CALL ME!!! when they please. This I see as an intrusion and I really am very moody about that, as I see that boundaries are also to be kept for clients and not only escorts. When a client hands me his phone number (which he has to be it for screening only) I do not dare to call that number unless specifically arranged and requested.

Which brings me to the tricky topic of intrusion of private sphere , and here I have to say something I observed in the years I worked as an escort: It is a two edged sword sometimes in the sense that sometimes clients don`t see it as intrusive to demand every day life things , which an escort would per definitionem not demand. I have grown to be more careful in "testing the waters" with clients and the private sphere - out of that hypocrisy, the hypocrisy that escorts sometimes are seen as something thaat does not have a private sphere. For example: It seems ok for clients to call when they wish, but imagine an escort does so. And here comes the point I am trying to make:
Unless someone has grown to be a friend of mine, I see the "other methods of conversation" - part a bit tricky.

I appreciate mails every once and a while, but telephone calls??
I don`t see how that would work out when I am sitting with my boyfriend(s) on the dinner table. No offense, but - not really - or - to be specific - not really anymore; since due to bad experiences I simply have built fences around a few things for protective reasons, which I tend to lower only in rare circumstances .... ))

I am not sure how calls can be handled or text messages, since I can`t imagine to be handling them at all, unless specifically requested for booking purposes. I just imagine sitting with my friends and a client calls ..... (lol)... and if you don`t pick up, it`s even worse, all this call back and then again email and text for one simple message that could have been handed over via email smooth and nice

[Guest121613]

Good response, as just calling someone is rude, I agree.

One of the funny things I have noticed, is I almost always show up for a date early. I live in Lombardi time. When I arrive early, I try to type a breif text meassage, like the brevity is text whisper, LOL. Usually get no response. I wait 5 min and text a little louder (a full sentence). Ok maybe I get texted back. I really am not trying to be pushy, really. So I used to call, but really, if she could not text back, she probably can't talk. So I my maturing. If I text early, and then on time, with no response, then I find a donut shop or bar, and text, let me know when ur ready, and I enjoy a coffer or a drink. Thanks for reinforcing call etiguet.

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by lostforkate

Good response, as just calling someone is rude, I agree.

One of the funny things I have noticed, is I almost always show up for a date early. I live in Lombardi time. When I arrive early, I try to type a breif text meassage, like the brevity is text whisper, LOL. Usually get no response. I wait 5 min and text a little louder (a full sentence). Ok maybe I get texted back. I really am not trying to be pushy, really. So I used to call, but really, if she could not text back, she probably can't talk. So I my maturing. If I text early, and then on time, with no response, then I find a donut shop or bar, and text, let me know when ur ready, and I enjoy a coffer or a drink. Thanks for reinforcing call etiguet.

Oh gosh, and I am the opposite. I tend to always be a little late, I know it`s bad character and unprofessional, but usually I tend to make up for it, but I am wired in the "academic 15 minutes" time ). That`s one of the reasons why I love Lisbon: In Portugal you set up a meeting time and everyone comes 10 to 15 minutes later ... my paradise ). However, if you come more than 10 minutes later, it is considered very very rude, too
So probably, if you`d texted me you`re early, I am still frantic in getting my hair done and last minute arrangements, so that might be a good reason why I`d not text back ...

ps: But - in my defense - I live around some very very very nice coffee houses, so you`d certainly not get bored )) (smile)

[Guest121613]

Originally Posted by ninasastri

Oh gosh, and I am the opposite. I tend to always be a little late, I know it`s bad character and unprofessional, but usually I tend to make up for it, but I am wired in the "academic 15 minutes" time ).....

ps: But - in my defense - I live around some very very very nice coffee houses, so you`d certainly not get bored )) (smile)

Some awesome providers are frequently "casually late", and I have learned not schedule something immediately following a date in case the time needs to flex it is true, good things come to those that wait.

One of my favorites is getting used to me, and to tease me, has me approach the gate about a minute early, and makes me wait a minute to buzz me in, "not yet". I know she is teasing, and I have fun seeing how much sexting, and short romantic lines I can up in a minute and I jam in her inbox, while I wait for the buzzer.

I did a day trip, and texted the provider and let her know I would be ready an hour early. LOL. Showing her courtesan skill, she actually apologized, and so I confessed to be pushy, and that was fine, and I would show up at the target time to pick her up. This time I chilled at a book store, and picked out a picked out a good book and started to read.

[NinaBrooke]

Originally Posted by lostforkate

Some awesome providers are frequently "casually late",

I`d call it the "c.t." - approach (cum tempore) which is used at universities to schedule lectures - at least in Europe ) (lol).

Oh the teasing sounds nice... .....

[Ariel Amour]

Im new to the hobby world so this has been a very interesting thread to read! Thank you everyone for all the input!