THE NEW WHITE ENVELOPE?

[Shackle]

A friend of mine got tripped up by the electronic fingerprints we leave when we use technology. The ability to be tracked especially when its related to money gets better every day. Cash will remain king to remain anonymous.

[Guest030112-4]

Originally Posted by Nina Rae

I feel some kinda way about using pay pal after hearing all this crap about ladies' accounts being frozen, etc. when pay pal suspects something.

I do not suggest using paypal for anything adult-related. I do web design part-time and did an adult web site for a phone sex operator. She paid me only a down payment of the design, and 3 days later, she hollered she didn't like the design to the card that she funded her paypal with to pay men and took the money back. They froze my account and I can't use an account I had for 6 years because of her. Don't do it lol whatever you do.. don't do it.

[ANONONE]

Originally Posted by Shackle

A friend of mine got tripped up by the electronic fingerprints we leave when we use technology. The ability to be tracked especially when its related to money gets better every day. Cash will remain king to remain anonymous.

Except for the fact that the treasury department tracks the movement of large bills (via the magnetic strip embedded in the paper) via GPS. Even with cash, you are not as anonymous as you think you are.

Cooperating merchants, including hotels, aid them in this pattern data collecting.

By law, they are not supposed to share this information with local law enforcement for infringements that are not federal, but do you really trust them to play by the rules?

Originally Posted by okcMassageGirl

I do not suggest using paypal for anything adult-related. I do web design part-time and did an adult web site for a phone sex operator. She paid me only a down payment of the design, and 3 days later, she hollered she didn't like the design to the card that she funded her paypal with to pay men and took the money back. They froze my account and I can't use an account I had for 6 years because of her. Don't do it lol whatever you do.. don't do it.

I think you might be making an argument FOR the consumer to use it. Without hearing both sides of the story, it sounds like you did not provide the agreed services--not sure what point you were making here.

[Guest030112-4]

Originally Posted by ANONONE

I think you might be making an argument FOR the consumer to use it. Without hearing both sides of the story, it sounds like you did not provide the agreed services--not sure what point you were making here.

I provided the service.. I was ready for her to check the initial design for the changes.. she thought it should be perfect the first time, wanted her money back. Plain and simple. There was a contract signed, etc. Anything adult-related is against Paypal Policy. I even spoke to a representative the other day about it.. anything adult-related that isn't a tangible good is still against paypal policy.. no matter if there's a contract or anything like that. That's the point I'm trying to make lol I wouldn't wanna put my money into a company like that and hope to get it back.

[ANONONE]

Originally Posted by okcMassageGirl

Anything adult-related is against Paypal Policy.

That is an old policy. They have reversed it.

[Ansley]

Originally Posted by ANONONE

Except for the fact that the treasury department tracks the movement of large bills (via the magnetic strip embedded in the paper) via GPS. Even with cash, you are not as anonymous as you think you are.

I find that pretty hard to believe. Doesn't a GPS need some type of energy source? Plus wouldn't that be pretty cost prohibitive.

[charlestudor2005]

Originally Posted by Ansley

Plus wouldn't that be pretty cost prohibitive.

I'm not saying A1's right on this, but the Gov't has pretty deep pockets...especially since, unlike the rest of us, it can spend on a deficit basis w/o any real ceiling.

[BTW, if the ever nationalize the escort industry, y'all won't have to worry much about income or the company going broke.]

[ANONONE]

Originally Posted by Ansley

I find that pretty hard to believe. Doesn't a GPS need some type of energy source? Plus wouldn't that be pretty cost prohibitive.

As far as I know, no. A power source is not required on both ends for RFID tags to track via scanners or, yes a satellite.

Does that mean they are always watching everybody? No. However I am sure there is some type of protocol threshold that raises an alert, and besides, what if you are just unlucky enough to be in the same hotel (or traveling in the same airport) as a felonious criminal or terrorist that is under scrutiny?

Stranger things have happened????


The point is, there is no flawless system for currency exchange with regards to the activity we are involved in. In fact, for all the folks concerned about fraud, there is currently a thread on here about counterfeiting and the hobby that is quite active at the moment.

[offshoredrilling]

Originally Posted by ANONONE

As far as I know, no. A power source is not required on both ends for RFID tags to track via scanners or, yes a satellite.

Work ID's are a RFID. But work in only a short range. Any work ID that does not have a barcode or magnetic-code on it, may have three small blue dots on the back of it. The detector puts out a small radio frequency. If the right RF, the card will get its power from that. And then send back(RF) the information about you. The door will unlock and you are at work. And a computer some where knows it and the time.

I am not sure how much one can push up the first RF single power. To gain a stronger return from the RFID, without burning up the RFID. But one would have to think if using a clear RF bandwidth, the government can buy a receiver to pick it up. More than two receivers, you have a GPS tracker for the RFID. How many satellite receivers does the US have that can transmit back data. Errrrr LOTS of them.

A GPS is a receiver and a computer. Picks up three or more satellites. It knows the RF output and location of the satellite's. Satellite's are sending a ID and time stamp. GPS: what time did I reseive each, and at what signal strength. A bit of math and it tells you where you are.

edit got a PM will try again:
The RFID tag has no power. No battery. But can get the power it needs by receiving the right RF signal to transmit its ID data at another RF. And so the name RFID tag. Radio Frequency Identification tag.

This is another way to put it.
Ansley is in TX. I am in upstate NY and powerless. I see her avatar, read her words. I am stimulated, powered up and ready to transmit. And I was stimulated and gain needed power by "avatar, read her words" that is the RF I needed to send my ID.

[SlowHand49]

Snopes says the trackable large bills thing is bunk:

http://www.snopes.com/business/money/strip.asp

[Ansley]

Originally Posted by ANONONE

As far as I know, no. A power source is not required on both ends for RFID tags to track via scanners or, yes a satellite.

The strip in a bill would have to have circuitry, a chip, which would have a unique serial number, and a battery.

[offshoredrilling]

"There are generally three types of RFID tags: active RFID tags, which contain a battery and can transmit signals autonomously, passive RFID tags, which have no battery and require an external source to provoke signal transmission, and battery assisted passive (BAP) RFID tags, which require an external source to wake up but have significant higher forward link capability providing greater range." From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RFID

The type of RFID tag I posted is passive. No battery is needed in the tag. The three blue dots on a employee ID, are the antenna. But is good for about 1 foot or less. Passive can be made so small as to be put on a ant.

To be read by a satellite. Would have to be much larger and a battery or other power supplied. Active RFID tags would be to large to be added to a currency paper bill. The only current tags I know of with the power to be found by satellite are on planes and ships, and also used by boaters to wear. And are not called RFID tags. And much much to large.

As I looked more into RFID tags even larger ones with a battery are good for yards. So I take back part of my other post to this thread. No way for a RFID tag to be picked up by even one satellite. No less three or more to get a fix on postion.(Wish I looked up first. Rather than just from memory)

ANONONE I think Ansley is right.

[Ansley]

offshoredrilling I want to thank you for the help that you gave me today. I appreciate the time you took to lead me in the right direction. Nothing better than learning something new on a rainy day.

[offshoredrilling]

your welcome. I learned more about RFID also, thanks

[charlestudor2005]

I try to learn one new thing every day.

I try to learn it as early in the day as possible so I can take the rest of the day off.