Newt wins in SC

[Guest040616]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

That's the point. Gingrich did not go after Clinton for his dalliance, he went after him for lying under oath and witness tampering.

Knowing the spouse would eventually find out about the indiscretion, there are very few married 'mongers' in here who would not have done the exact same thing. In these part's the married man's motto: Whether you're accused by a spouse, testifying or speaking with a police officer: "Deny, Deny, Deny." And when they break out a photo, "Deny" some more!

Fortunately, I have never been put in that position!

[cinderbella]

The U.S. wouldn't be in the mess it's in today if George W. Bush hadn't been elected. His administration ruined everything that was going forward. (NO I am not an Obama fan, don't throw that at me). As long as we are suppressed by corporate greed and over zealous policing and condemnation by law enforcement we will never be a free society. A state and country must always be willing to treat it's disadvantaged humanely no matter how you may feel about the poor. The poor will always exist and that's why Jesus spoke so much about philanthropy, charity, riches and forgiveness. If I lived in Canada, the U.K., Australia or New Zealand (among other western societies) I would be free to practice as I wish as a fbsm and not live in fear of being caught and exposed/tried by the media to the embarrassment of my family. Women are caregivers and breadwinners for families. Women typically do not earn the same wages as men. When women are suppressed and denied access to basics like affordable housing and healthcare, families deteriorate and men automatically take advantage because society loses respect for women when they are suppressed. I would give anything for the days of the Clinton Whitehouse. Yes, I do plan on moving to another country when my home is foreclosed on. And yes, I will be able to pick up the pieces and work in my chosen field free of condemnation by the ignorant and corrupt.

[Jackie S]

Cinderbella, since your life seems to be a pile of shit, explain to all of us exactly how President Obama being in office has helped you.

You remind me of Blacks, who have given damned near 100 percent support to the Democrats since Lydon Johnson created the Welfare State. "Vote for me and I will give you all you need".

So why in the past 50 years has the Black Population lagged behind every other ethnic group. Black unemployment is approaching 20 percent.

So, how is that "I vote Democrat" thing working out"?

[Laz]

I agree wholeheartedly that who Clinton got a blow job from is none of my business. However, lying under oath is a crime and the question was relevant in a sexual harassment case.

As for Bush being the root of all evil, if you think Gore or Kerry would have been any better on these issues you are fooling yourself. Liberals are just as opposed to legalizing this as social conservatives. The things that led to the housing bubble were fully supported by democrats. Conservatives give more money to charities than liberals and the social welfare the democrats support have made the problem worse not better. Equal pay for women is not a problem like it was in the past and is supported by both parties. As for affordable housing and health care the government always makes things more expensive not less. Capitalism and competition will bring those prices down not government intervention.

Originally Posted by cinderbella

The U.S. wouldn't be in the mess it's in today if George W. Bush hadn't been elected. His administration ruined everything that was going forward. (NO I am not an Obama fan, don't throw that at me). As long as we are suppressed by corporate greed and over zealous policing and condemnation by law enforcement we will never be a free society. A state and country must always be willing to treat it's disadvantaged humanely no matter how you may feel about the poor. The poor will always exist and that's why Jesus spoke so much about philanthropy, charity, riches and forgiveness. If I lived in Canada, the U.K., Australia or New Zealand (among other western societies) I would be free to practice as I wish as a fbsm and not live in fear of being caught and exposed/tried by the media to the embarrassment of my family. Women are caregivers and breadwinners for families. Women typically do not earn the same wages as men. When women are suppressed and denied access to basics like affordable housing and healthcare, families deteriorate and men automatically take advantage because society loses respect for women when they are suppressed. I would give anything for the days of the Clinton Whitehouse. Yes, I do plan on moving to another country when my home is foreclosed on. And yes, I will be able to pick up the pieces and work in my chosen field free of condemnation by the ignorant and corrupt.

[cinderbella]

Jackie S., if you read, I said I did not support Obama. As far as me reminding you of blacks, thank you. Quality human beings come in the form of all races, creeds and ethnic orgins. At least all of us whose lives are apparently "a pile of shit" won't be seeing your pathetic ass in heaven. With your attitude you are not going to be welcomed there. Pat yourself on the back for being such a superior person to myself and all the "blacks" in the world. I guess your life is so blessed and enriched that all you have time to do is condemn people you don't know online because you obviously know everything. By the way, ever heard of something called freedom of speech? You remind me of someone who is a tyrant and a bigot, btw.

[cinderbella]

Laz, thank you for your statement. It was succinct, sensible and point well taken. It was also delivered fairly and politely without insult. I appreciate your opinion and also appreciate your fairness. Too bad Jackie S. windbag can't learn to treat others with the same respect and consideration as you. A+ plus you are a true gentleman.

[CuteOldGuy]

I agree much of the mess we have now started under President Bush, but what choice did we have? Al Gore, I mean, c'mon. Or John Kerry? He's Romney with longer hair, and less money.

Obama said "Elect me, and I will change things." He has. He's taken the mess Bush left and made it much worse, while limiting our personal liberties at an unprecedented rate.

This time, what choice do we have? Obama v. Romney or Gingrich. Good god, is this the best America has to offer? I'm hoping Gingrich gets the nomination for two reasons. 1. He will be fun to watch, and 2. It should open the door for some serious third-party gains. I don't think a third party candidate would win this election, but a few more elections with choices like this, and I give them a fair chance.

Cinderbella, there is no reason why your profession should be illegal. The moralists give it a bad name, but you provide a necessary service, and I thank you for it.

[Laz]

Originally Posted by cinderbella

Laz, thank you for your statement. It was succinct, sensible and point well taken. It was also delivered fairly and politely without insult. I appreciate your opinion and also appreciate your fairness. Too bad Jackie S. windbag can't learn to treat others with the same respect and consideration as you. A+ plus you are a true gentleman.

Thanks for the complement.

[Jackie S]

I'm getting preached to by a Hooker about the moral teachings of Christianity on a Web Site devoted to the buying and selling of pussy.

Well, heck, I guess asked for it.

[CuteOldGuy]

CS Lewis claimed that prostitutes are closer to heaven than many churchgoers. If the shoe fits . . .

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

I'm getting preached to by a Hooker about the moral teachings of Christianity on a Web Site devoted to the buying and selling of pussy.

Well, heck, I guess asked for it.

Jackie so since you have seen hookers in your life than who are you to preach about anything or condemn anyone? Check your history minorities have traditionally done worse under Republican Presidents. Also people have to help themselves no matter who is in office- there are millions of Blacks who are do far better than you Jackie so what is your point????

[Jackie S]

And most of those Blacks, (if not in the business of being poverty pimps), are probably Republicans.

Hey, all I here on the news, and out of the mouths of the Liberal Left, is Whitey has held back the minorities. Black America has voted overwhelming Democrat for the past 50 years, and by all accounts, have the highest school drop out rates, the highest instance of unwed pregnancy, the highest poverty rate, and the highest unemployment.

What has the Democrats done to rectify this. Nothing, they have only made things worse by creating the 'welfare state' that enslaves people in a system that they cannot escape.

[timpage]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

And most of those Blacks, (if not in the business of being poverty pimps), are probably Republicans.

Hey, all I here on the news, and out of the mouths of the Liberal Left, is Whitey has held back the minorities. Black America has voted overwhelming Democrat for the past 50 years, and by all accounts, have the highest school drop out rates, the highest instance of unwed pregnancy, the highest poverty rate, and the highest unemployment.

What has the Democrats done to rectify this. Nothing, they have only made things worse by creating the 'welfare state' that enslaves people in a system that they cannot escape.

Blaming social services for "enslaving" (good god, the irony) and making things worse for African Americans is so ludicrous it doesn't merit a response. This is one of those talking points that Rush, Hannity, Coulter and the rest of the conservative entertainment industry millionaires throw out there endlessly with no empirical proof and that has become accepted dogma by the hypnotized lemmings anxious to blame everything from the AIDS to the recent tsunami's on democrats and progressives. People that buy into this crap are the same folks who become convinced that it's the middle-class white person who is really the victim of racism these days. It's bullshit, plain and simple..

So, Jackie, what's your solution to the problems facing "those blacks?"

[Jackie S]

Timpage, I said 'those blacks' are probably Republicans, so they have in all likelyhood reached a point to where they are not dependent on anyone but themselves.

But, for the millions who are permantly mired in housing projects in every metropolitan area, waiting for the momthly check from the government for their substance, I have no answer. Once you past 4th and 5th generations living in this existance, the odds of escape have become unsurmountable.

The Democrat answer is "vote for me, and you get more of the same".
My question simply is why does the Black Community continue to support the Democrats in overwhelming numbers when all they will get is "more of the same".

[Little Stevie]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

Cinderbella, since your life seems to be a pile of shit, explain to all of us exactly how President Obama being in office has helped you.

You remind me of Blacks, who have given damned near 100 percent support to the Democrats since Lydon Johnson created the Welfare State. "Vote for me and I will give you all you need".

The callous and demeaning remarks you made to Cinderbella coupled with your complete disregard for the real numbers are as hollow as your head, Jackie S.

Originally Posted by Jackie S

Timpage, I said 'those blacks' are probably Republicans, so they have in all likelyhood reached a point to where they are not dependent on anyone but themselves.

Jackie S, you have proven beyond a doubt that what is in your HEAD is not a reliable source for any assumption.