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Old Today, 10:52 AM   #31
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I did it for you Mr Gristle. This is why the traitors posted their retarded video.


The leftist politicians that made that video about “You do not have to follow illegal orders” directed at military personnel means this…

They didn’t say WHAT orders and they are trying to get behind the incoming EO FOR ELECTION INTEGRITY with an attached NATIONAL EMERGENCY.

This is the nail in their coffins.

This order legally and lawfully restricts ANY interference in ALL elections even down to the states and JUDGES cannot interfere.

Same day
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They are trying desperately to cause division and chaos because they know they are DONE. It will be end of installed, unelected criminals who can no longer do their bidding. Their bidding is directed from GLOBALIST AGENDAS to take down America from within.

THEY LOSE.

Let the screaming continue, it won’t matter. ON WE GO! ��������✝️
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Old Today, 11:05 AM   #32
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Did what for me? I made a general statement and you turned that into a mountain, too.

What are you even arguing about?

It's not sedition or a military coup to say "don't follow an illegal order" but, ok
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Old Today, 11:33 AM   #33
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Actually it’s you that doesnt care about certain citizens. You didn’t condemn Obama droning American citizens. Look, you simply don’t have the chops to debate here. Stick to hobby related topics. Like AMPs which you seem to have legitimate experience in. No matter what your handle is.
You keep posting off topic and expect me to follow you down the road to Pointsville. Not gonna happen.
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Old Today, 11:40 AM   #34
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The only reason trump is going apeshit over veterans reminding current military that they can't follow illegal orders is... because he was planning on giving them illegal orders at some point down the road.

The only thing remarkable about what these veterans said is that it needed to be said at all.

trump is seriously unhinged and he's planning to attack U.S. citizens on U.S. soil.

Every accusation is a confession for trump. He will go down in history as the ultimate traitor.
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You keep posting off topic and expect me to follow you down the road to Pointsville. Not gonna happen.
If you say so.
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Did what for me? I made a general statement and you turned that into a mountain, too.

What are you even arguing about?

It's not sedition or a military coup to say "don't follow an illegal order" but, ok
We’ll see Mr Gristle.
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More what we won't see
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The fact that you Trump and guys need to make a mountain out of a molehill about this tickles me. It reeks of desperation.
Precisely the opposite is true.

Encouraging active armed service members to disobey orders is a BFD (big fucking deal) and you know it!

Your lame lmfao doesn't make it any less of an outrage.

The fact that Democrats can't even proffer a single example of an actual order that warrants this disturbing video screams of THEIR desperation.
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Precisely the opposite is true.

Encouraging active armed service members to disobey orders is a BFD (big fucking deal) and you know it!

Your lame lmfao doesn't make it any less of any outrage.

The fact that Democrats can't even proffer a single example of an actual order that warrants this disturbing video screams of THEIR desperation.
From the viewing of the actual video- they all state- DO NOT FOLLOW ILLEGAL orders. I don't think they said don't follow LEGAL ones ever. You know- sorta to make ppl think about what they are being told to do- and to give consideration if that is what really should be happening. Moreover- to people who are AMERICANs in AMERICAN cities. I am pretty sure that armed forces leadership of yore would say- yep- you shouldn't do anything that is illegal. Ppl went to the Hague because they followed illegal orders sir.
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Wrong! A state cannot stop ICE from arresting and deporting illegals. They can decline to cooperate but they cannot obstruct. Federal law trumps state law, especially on immigration.

The national guard doesn't flip-flop according to court decisions being appealed/reversed en route to the SCOTUS. National Guard troops follow the orders of their commanding officers.

Trump as C-in-C has fully complied with the law. These Democrats are so fucking clueless they can't even tell us what "illegal orders" have been issued that deserve to be disobeyed! They're encouraging behavior that - if followed - will result in court martial. They don't give a fuck because it's not their ass that will get reamed!

The Dems are becoming more desperate and despicable by the day!
I would say yes - you're probably right on the ICE part, but wrong on the National Guard side due to no request by the Governors or Mayors. THe posse comitatus act has some pretty specific rules for american troops or NG being deployed. We've already seen it in the courts- and states still have rights on what the FEDs can do with regard to that. ICE - is a different animal, but yes- NOEM and the bribester Tommy-Boy Hoeman are allowed to be able to shoot puppies, and preachers, and threaten americans and drive them around and just drop them off afterwards if they like. I'm not sure how this type of crap doesn't bother you conservatives when AMERICANS are being detained - and it's not just ppl here without being citizens.
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Precisely the opposite is true.

Encouraging active armed service members to disobey orders is a BFD (big fucking deal) and you know it!

Your lame lmfao doesn't make it any less of an outrage.

The fact that Democrats can't even proffer a single example of an actual order that warrants this disturbing video screams of THEIR desperation.
Illegal orders, which they are already obligated to do.
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From the viewing of the actual video- they all state- DO NOT FOLLOW ILLEGAL orders...
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Illegal orders, which they are already obligated to do.
Uh-huh.

Please sir, tell us exactly WHAT UNLAWFUL ORDERS are the former commissioned officers in the video referring to?
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https://www.ucmjlaw.com/article-92-c...illegal-order/

Since you guys aren't attorneys, here's one
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From the viewing of the actual video- they all state- DO NOT FOLLOW ILLEGAL orders. I don't think they said don't follow LEGAL ones ever. You know- sorta to make ppl think about what they are being told to do- and to give consideration if that is what really should be happening. Moreover- to people who are AMERICANs in AMERICAN cities. I am pretty sure that armed forces leadership of yore would say- yep- you shouldn't do anything that is illegal. Ppl went to the Hague because they followed illegal orders sir.
Other administrations have ordered the military into American cities. They went. So you’re wrong.
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https://www.ucmjlaw.com/article-92-c...illegal-order/

Since you guys aren't attorneys, here's one
I already posted a similar link. Try to keep up. You’re not an attorney either.

Thank you valued poster


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