Why I carry a firearm in Church.

[maint729]

Salty that's what everyone says when you mention gun control. I never said a word of taking people's guns. Just one type, not all. Anybody with any kind of sense knows they should never been available to the common asshole and I consider everybody a common asshole. Our forefathers had flint locks not even percussions when they made the Constitution.

That's like saying when they come out with birth control. The government won't let us have children anymore.

[maint729]

You don't even need guns to kill someone in recent years now they drive their car or truck on the sidewalk and mow people down.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Banning weapons wouldn’t have stopped this shooting. Admitting trannys are mentally ill, which they are, instead of glorifying and “confirming” them would’ve.

Nobody here is "glorifying" or "confirming" trans folks. I happen to believe they're, at best, confused. And yes, many are mentally ill.

Guess what? I agree that there are only two genders, too (with the very rare exception of someone being born with both sets of plumbing).

Lest anyone try to label me a "radical leftist". In reality, I'm a left-leaning centrist who hates trump, and what he's doing to this country, with every fiber of my being. But hating trump doesn't change my core ideology.

[maint729]

Somewhere along the line somebody spilled gas and now they've changed the gas cans that you have some stupid nozzle on it You can't even put gas in your lawn mower without having three things to do it's once It used to be so simple to put gas in your lawn mower. I usually try to take care of that the first day.

They'll do something stupid like that but they won't have some type of gun control for the crazies and it's getting worse every single day.

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by maint729

Salty that's what everyone says when you mention gun control. I never said a word of taking people's guns. Just one type, not all. Anybody with any kind of sense knows they should never been available to the common asshole and I consider everybody a common asshole. Our forefathers had flint locks not even percussions when they made the Constitution.

That's like saying when they come out with birth control. The government won't let us have children anymore.

Would the founders ban the internet, since the only way of expressing free speech was a quill pen or standing on a soapbox shouting? You’re exactly wrong here, 180 degrees off. To keep with the founders intent we’d REMOVE restrictions, not add them.

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by tommy156

Nobody here is "glorifying" or "confirming" trans folks. I happen to believe they're, at best, confused. And yes, many are mentally ill.

Guess what? I agree that there are only two genders, too (with the very rare exception of someone being born with both sets of plumbing).

Lest anyone try to label me a "radical leftist". In reality, I'm a left-leaning centrist who hates trump, and what he's doing to this country, with every fiber of my being. But hating trump doesn't change my core ideology.

Maybe you’re not, but that wasn’t directed at you. Much of society is encouraging trannyism, this is undeniable fact.

[Charley3]

Originally Posted by Charley3

I think it might be “fun” to shoot a grenade launcher! Where can I buy one?

Not surprised you didn’t get where I was going with this.
No….what is a stupid comparison is saying AR-15 rifles or as you’ve stated grenade launchers, which were built for military, should be lumped into all allowable arms for private citizens.
But you’re not capable of seeing the problem with this.

Now excuse me, I’m gonna look into buying a rocket launcher. I think that would be “fun”!!

[Devo]

Originally Posted by maint729

I have a lot of guns. I lost the heart of hunting 30 years ago. At one time I would have went deer hunting the first day and if I got fired for it I still would have went.

Now you couldn't pay me to go. We all change. But be honest 30 years ago we didn't have assault rifles, we still don't need them on the streets. Would those kids
Still been shot. Yes. But maybe a few of them may have gotten away.

Think about that.

I gave up hunting because it wasn't much of a sport, and I don't care to eat deer meat.

The so called Assault rifle, the AR15 civilian version was availale for sale in the early 60s, sales were not impressive, I bought my first one in 1983 ish, IIRC, and I had to find a shop that would actually have one in stock.

Same time the first Chinese AKS hit the marked for 300 ish, I paid 550 for the AR, I still have it.

Then, came "Miami Vice" which glorified some of the weapons similarly available, and the sales just started to go crazy, first year of import, 400 AKs, second, 4000, when the crazy shit on TV started to create demand, the third year is was 40K, and you couldn't sell enough.

Then they stupidly half banned them, and created a line of people waiting to buy them.

In 04, that ban ended, the end result is MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of rifles, pistols and semi auto shotguns have been sold.

Pandora's box opened long before 1963, and you will NEVER be able to remove those MILLIONS of weapons from the population.

Now, you can 3d print Glock switches in minutes and have a machine gun in an hour, and they fill the inner city streets.

IF, there is a solution, you better take into account, that its the person using the gun, and not the gun itself.

Today, an AR15 is under 300 dollars for a complete functioning weapon, Peanuts.

You can't stop the gun, but you can keep your eyes open for clearly sick people buying them, I'll tell you this, if someone openly appears to be someone I don't think should have a gun, I am not selling it to them.

Not a guy with Swastika on his forehead, yes, I'm serious, to someone who is clearly misgendered, like the dude yesterday.

Nothing says I have to sell to someone I don't want to.

But I will tell you this, when I belonged to the Pink Pistols of Pittsburgh, there were trans and gay people looking for ONLY trans or gay gun dealers, I don't have an agenda, I care only to sell to people I feel are safe.

But there are sellers who don't care who they sell to, if they can make a dollar, worse, there are criminals doing it for them.

You gotta focus on the bad people getting weapons, not the entire country, Armstrong county doesn't have murders, Allegheny County does, take a hard look at who is committing the crimes and focus there, but that's racist isn't it.

[Devo]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

Every 2nd amendment advocate here finds a new situation where they need to have their gun strapped on a hip. Then they say, trust the NG and cops. That's fine. The only entity you cannot trust today are politicians. They are tyrant's and need to be accountable. I'm sure Jesus would love to see ppl rolling to church sporting a nice Glock or Desert Eagle with holy laser sights and Eucharistic extra capacity mags.

Ummm no, I learned long ago, not to depend on cops, they are as likely to shoot you if you are using a weapon in self defense.

IF, a scenario occurs where I actually need to fire a gun, I will have it on the ground before the cops arrive as its need will have been ended.

I saw videos of the National Guard in DC cleaning shit up off the streets.

IS that SO HORRIBLE you have to melt down on Facebook over it, OH, the HUMANITY.

And how many day without a murder in DC now???

[Devo]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

You can own a grenade launcher with the right paperwork I believe. Stupid comparison to effectively a 22, but typical for this forum that’s pretty clueless about firearms.

Actually I transferred one to a fellow, I am not a dealer in Destructive devices, but I can receive them to transfer.

It was a very rare Colt M203 underbarrel model, he paid 2K, since then its up to about 8K or more, a very good investment, he's also building a copy of the Vietnam, BLOOP grenade launcher, I believe its an M79.

Thousands into it, so far, not my cup of tea, but he's going to have a very nice and valuable collection.

It can fire "BEEHIVE" rounds, which are multiple 22LR cartridges fired from inside a 40MM cannister, I believe like 12 shots at once.

Neat but.

[Devo]

Originally Posted by maint729

Somewhere along the line somebody spilled gas and now they've changed the gas cans that you have some stupid nozzle on it You can't even put gas in your lawn mower without having three things to do it's once It used to be so simple to put gas in your lawn mower. I usually try to take care of that the first day.

They'll do something stupid like that but they won't have some type of gun control for the crazies and it's getting worse every single day.

And they sell replacement water spouts like the old gas ones, to replace the retarded gas losing crap they use now, they leak more gas than the old ones ever did.

FAFO, and create a work around to fuck the government.

They are 3D printing ENTIRE GUNS, I am awaiting a 3D printed suppressor, titanium, weighs under 3 ounces, so light it works on any 9MM pistol without the usual needed Nielsen device.

We are at the point where someone can build any weapon they want, I know someone using 3D printed parts and steel components to creat a 22LR multi barrel mini gun, yep, hand crank its a Gatling, put on a motor, its a full auto Mini gun.

Legal, COMPREHEND its LEGAL TO DO, you cannot STOP IT, nobody can.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Maybe you’re not, but that wasn’t directed at you. Much of society is encouraging trannyism, this is undeniable fact.

First of all terms like trannyism, transgenderism, gender ideology aren’t real terms.

In her March 2023 essay, “On the Right’s Call to “Eradicate Transgenderism” (It Means Exactly What You Think It Means)” journalist Parker Molloy further explains: “words like ‘transgenderism’ and ‘gender ideology’ are almost exclusively used by anti-trans activists to obscure the fact that trans people are simply people who just happen to be trans. It’s not a belief system.”

Secondly no one is encouraging the idea that people should be transgender. They simply are or are not. If anything people are simply not vilifying those who happen to be transgender. When that happens they come out of the shadows.

Thirdly the idea that trans people commit more mass violence is simply not true.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...idUSL1N363273/

Fact Check: Majority of US mass shooters are cis men, not transgender or non-binary people

Verdict: Most mass shootings or violent gun attacks in the U.S. carried are out by cisgender men.

Read the full article at the link above for the details.

[tommy156]

Overwhelming majority (actually, nearly all) mass shooters in this country are men. It's not even close. As in, 96% of them.

But, as usual, MAGA takes one or two anecdotal pieces of evidence and blows it WAY out of proportion. Same thing they do with undocumented immigrants re. violent crime. Today's Republicans are very easily spooked.

[Charley3]

Originally Posted by Devo

Actually I transferred one to a fellow, I am not a dealer in Destructive devices, but I can receive them to transfer.

It was a very rare Colt M203 underbarrel model, he paid 2K, since then its up to about 8K or more, a very good investment, he's also building a copy of the Vietnam, BLOOP grenade launcher, I believe its an M79.

Thousands into it, so far, not my cup of tea, but he's going to have a very nice and valuable collection.

It can fire "BEEHIVE" rounds, which are multiple 22LR cartridges fired from inside a 40MM cannister, I believe like 12 shots at once.

Neat but.

Neat!? You make me sick.

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... As I've mentioned SO MANY times as a member of this site
and others - me problem with gun control is that I don't want
the Police and military to have all the guns.

That was me-own belief back in the olde country and is me belief Here.

And apparently THAT was also the belief of yer Forefathers.
Adams and Jefferson and what-not... 2nd Amendment.

##### Salty

Not everyone wants guns to be available sir. Here's some super interesting facts- do you know where you are NOT allowed to carry a firearm?

• Trump Properties- NO Guns are allowed on many of his properties,
  
  
• The NRA convention will NOT allow guns in Wisconsin.
  
  
• The RNC does not allow them at their conventions.
  
  
• Trump isn't allowed to actually carry or OWN any guns as a convicted felon.
  
  
• Republicans have introduced a bill to get rid of Gun-Free safety zones.
  
  
• Donald Trump Is Against 'Gun-Free Zones'- despite firearms are the number 1 cause of death to children age 1-19.
  

But bringing one to church makes sense-