prices increasing due to Trump tariffs

[VitaMan]

Originally Posted by Lantern2814

Now for reality. Inflation went up 0.3% in June. A rounding error. That 2.7% number is yearly. In other words, less than HALF of Biden's rate, when these same people were saying there wasn't any problem with inflation.

Under the Trump administration prices are rising and will continue to rise.

Under the Biden administration prices and inflation were falling. There were interest rate cuts.

Now with the Trump administration there is no longer a chance for interest rate cuts.

That is the reality.

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by DayOfTheEagle

Trump doesn't care about reality. Here's some reminders:

“Starting on day one, we will end inflation and make America affordable again, to bring down the prices of all goods.”

NBC Montana, Trump Rally in Bozeman, MT, YouTube (August 9, 2024).

8/14/24
“Under my administration, we will be slashing energy and electricity prices by half within 12 months, at a maximum 18 months”

“Prices will come down. You just watch: They’ll come down, and they’ll come down fast, not only with insurance, with everything.”

PBS NewsHour, Trump Rally in North Carolina, YouTube (August 14, 2024).

8/17/24
“Starting the day I take the oath of office, I will rapidly drive prices down and we will make America affordable again. We’re going to make it affordable again.”

“We’re going to get your energy prices down. We’re going to get your energy prices down by 50%.”

PBS NewsHour, Trump speaks at campaign rally in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania, YouTube (August 17, 2024).

... So, yer saying that energy prices are NOT gonna fall??

Petrol-gas prices have dropped... ...

Some of the LOWEST Summer prices in YEARS! ...

#### Salty

[DayOfTheEagle]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... So, yer saying that energy prices are NOT gonna fall??

Petrol-gas prices have dropped...

Some of the LOWEST Summer prices in YEARS! ...

#### Salty

We will get back to this I promise. Too late tonight. And you make us wait all the time. So I will do the same. For now.

The one thing I will say though is that it is ridiculous to try to read anything into short term gas prices. They are as fickle and unstable as Trump's tariff policies. They could easily fluctuate 10 percent by the time you read this. See you in the morning!

[1blackman1]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... So, yer saying that energy prices are NOT gonna fall??

Petrol-gas prices have dropped... ...

Some of the LOWEST Summer prices in YEARS! ...

#### Salty

Energy prices are not falling. The cost of home heating and cooling has increased. That’s how you actually determine energy pricing, not at the pump gas prices.

But hey, you’re an economic genius so I’m sure I’m telling you something you already know.

[sand247]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Energy prices are not falling. The cost of home heating and cooling has increased. That’s how you actually determine energy pricing, not at the pump gas prices.

But hey, you’re an economic genius so I’m sure I’m telling you something you already know.

https://www.macrotrends.net/2479/hea...cal-chart-data


Hit a high of $3.57 under biden, now averaging $2.18 under trump, and was fairly stable around $2 bucks under Trumps first term. Am i reading it wrong? I don't live where i need heating oils, and my electricity costs over the last 10 years have stayed fairly stable with an open market.

[1blackman1]

So you’re basing nationwide costs on your own. Good move. Most of the rest of us have heating and cooling costs which are higher overall. Though they do fluctuate as do all energy costs.

I like the “hit a high” vs average cost. Again, nice move.

[VitaMan]

Only 1 item has been picked out as having lower prices, while measurements are taken on a broad group of items.


If you want to just pick out an item, this can make it easy for you........what are prices for cars doing ?

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by VitaMan

Only 1 item has been picked out as having lower prices, while measurements are taken on a broad group of items.


If you want to just pick out an item, this can make it easy for you........what are prices for cars doing ?

When have new car prices ever gone down? Very rarely if ever.

Now if you are talking used cars, it seems that they are going down.

https://www.cargurus.com/research/pr...8152d61cf262f3

https://autofinder.com/insights/used...opping-in-2025

[VitaMan]

missing the point bro

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Let us know WHEN they raise their prices.

So the American people can thus decide WHERE they want
to spend their money. ... Either the company can decide to
"eat" whatever tariff "cost" there may be - or take the risk of
passing along the "cost" to the consumer and having them turn-away.

See? ... The true meaning of Free Enterprise! ... ..

#### Salty

Originally Posted by VitaMan

An odd way to admit prices are going up.


Tariffs are not free enterprise. They are Donaldsuprises.

Remember a friend of mine saying that even liars occasionally screw up and tell the truth by accident.


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[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by sand247

https://www.macrotrends.net/2479/hea...cal-chart-data


Hit a high of $3.57 under biden, now averaging $2.18 under trump, and was fairly stable around $2 bucks under Trumps first term. Am i reading it wrong? I don't live where i need heating oils, and my electricity costs over the last 10 years have stayed fairly stable with an open market.

... See? ...

#### Salty

[Jacky S]

Any body notice this.

https://www.investopedia.com/dow-jon...72025-11774018

I guess the Democrat’s constant battling against ANYTHING Trump is paying off.

[sand247]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

So you’re basing nationwide costs on your own. Good move. Most of the rest of us have heating and cooling costs which are higher overall. Though they do fluctuate as do all energy costs.

I like the “hit a high” vs average cost. Again, nice move.

Aren't you.....doing that? Basing nationwide costs on your own increase? Average is....average. Some pay less, some pay more, on AVERAGE it's decreased. I can't math it any more math-y than that. I can hand pick a remote town in Alaska who's cost is up 600% since Trump took office. Does that mean it's up 600% everywhere?

[1blackman1]

Read my post. I never based anything on my anecdotal experience. But nice try.

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by sand247

https://www.macrotrends.net/2479/hea...cal-chart-data


Hit a high of $3.57 under biden, now averaging $2.18 under trump, and was fairly stable around $2 bucks under Trumps first term. Am i reading it wrong? I don't live where i need heating oils, and my electricity costs over the last 10 years have stayed fairly stable with an open market.

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... See? ...

#### Salty

See what?


If what you say is true, than why is the price of energy on the rise? If it is as good as you say, why ain't they burning oil at power plants to drop the price? Can't be because they burn coal. If so, why not go back to steam powered cars so the maggies can claim they are further deregulating, cost cutting, propping upt *clean* coal?

And the little people are hurting more due to fiscally incompetant conservative spending.

Glad you live in a tiny sheltered community that doesn't have to experience the hardships the rest of this country is.