The BIggest WIN is almost in! BBB Passes in the Senate!

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Originally Posted by Lantern2814

And even more threats. Here's more hahahahahah! Your own statement CONFIRMS what I said. The elderly and low income. NOT able bodied, healthy, able to work individuals. And the CBO is historically inaccurate. Again, they claimed Obama are was "revenue neutral". Oops. Now you want the thread closed because your lies are getting exposed.

Originally Posted by Jacky S

It seems that our Liberal/Democrat friends are scared the President is actually going to do something about the fraud that permeates the Medicaid Bureaucracy.

If you want to be associated with that repost, I was obviously premature when I said yesterday that you could not disappoint me more.

And you wanna throw down with this fraud idea now, too? Okay.

Ya know that 10 Million number I keep quoting? Actually, that was the OLD number...from the House proposal. The Senate bill bumps that number to 17 Million.

17 Million people who had healthcare coverage are gonna lose it.

Not fraudsters. Children in poor families. Poor people in rural areas and inner cities. A bunch of people that actually WORK, but they get a break on coverage through expanded funds from the ACA.

And in rural areas especially, more of them are Republicans than Democrats. MAGA all the way. Really.

You'll find out. This bill is going to pass. And it will take awhile. But the stories will start coming out. And just like with immigration, a fuckload of people are gonna start crying "We didn't know we voted for this!"

And just because they lose coverage doesn't mean they won't get healthcare. It will just cost a lot more when they do because it will be more urgent. Their needs will be more serious because their care was neglected.

And since they won't be able to pay that bill...that MUCH bigger bill...you and I will get to do it.

Fuck, man! What could go wrong?

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[Jacky S]

One in five Americans are benefitting in some fashion from Medicaid.
That is over 71 million people.
Many deserve the benefits.

But many take advantage of the system.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/natio...ction-over-146

[Yssup Rider]

Number one - press release from Pam Bondi’s office. Snick.

Number two - “national fraud takedown” netted 324 fraudsters. Amazingly low number considering the fact that Medicaid fraud is a big business in the legal arena and has been for decades. And they used the DOJ and LE at national, state and local levels to net these fraudsters?? SNICK

As a result of this YUGE roundup, Trump’s mindless flock of dipshits in Congress are willing to strip essential health care from millions.

SNICK

Thanks for putting this all into perspective.

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Originally Posted by Jacky S

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But many take advantage of the system.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/natio...ction-over-146

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Number one - press release from Pam Bondi’s office. Snick.

Number two - “national fraud takedown” netted 324 fraudsters. Amazingly low number considering the fact that Medicaid fraud is a big business in the legal arena and has been for decades. And they used the DOJ and LE at national, state and local levels to net these fraudsters?? SNICK

As a result of this YUGE roundup, Trump’s mindless flock of dipshits in Congress are willing to strip essential health care from millions....

Yeah...the people netted in that operation are PROVIDERS, not people receiving benefits.

That's where the real fraud is in the system. Not with the millions who will lose their coverage.

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[Jacky S]

Originally Posted by Yssup

Thanks for putting this all into perspective.

Perspective is based on point of view.

Your’s, (seems to be), let the system go on being scammed because the good out weighs the bad.

Mine is why not get rid of the fraud and STILL allow those that need it collect their full benefits.

Your’s is predicated on your hatred for the President.

Mine is predicated on the President doing what is best for America, especially the Tax Payers.

[Yssup Rider]

You assume too much, Jacky.

Your TDS consumes you.

[1blackman1]

Medicaid is state run. The federal govt provides matching funds to the state for their programs. There is no Medicaid federal employees except that define minimum standards and rules the states must use to receive the match. Essentially what this bill does is make it more stringent for the state match, hence providing states with less money. Mostly red states will be hurt as states like Maryland and CA depend less on the match than say Louisiana and Mississippi.

Of course a complete lack of understanding how these things work allow our MAGA friends to continue saying things that are patently incorrect.

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Originally Posted by Jacky S

Perspective is based on point of view.

Your’s, (seems to be), let the system go on being scammed because the good out weighs the bad.

Mine is why not get rid of the fraud and STILL allow those that need it their full benefits.

Your’s is predicated on your hatred for the President.

Mine is predicated on the President doing what is best for America, especially Tax Payers.

Both of those statements in red are untrue and out of fucking line.

As for the last sentence....many of the 17 Million who will lose coverage are tax payers.

They are using the "fraud" angle to gaslight everyone on the real issue, which is that they need to cut these people off so that they don't add EVEN MORE debt to the $3+ Trillion that they are going to add.

As I said, you will find out. The press will be all over it as it starts happening. I'll help make sure you don't miss it.

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Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Medicaid is state run. The federal govt provides matching funds to the state for their programs. There is no Medicaid federal employees except that define minimum standards and rules the states must use to receive the match. Essentially what this bill does is make it more stringent for the state match, hence providing states with less money. Mostly red states will be hurt as states like Maryland and CA depend less on the match than say Louisiana and Mississippi.

Of course a complete lack of understanding how these things work allow our MAGA friends to continue saying things that are patently incorrect.

Excellent point about red states. Mississippi, Alabama, South Carolina, Louisiana...all red states that are hard MAGA. And are going to have massive amounts of people lose coverage.

As I said, the news will once again be filled with people crying "We didn't know we voted for THIS!!"

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[Jacky S]

I don’t care if people are yellow, brown, black, or white, conservative, liberal, red state, blue state, gay, straight, or anything else.

If they are Using fraudulent means to collect Medicaid, they should be taken off the program.

[TechPapi]

Originally Posted by Jacky S

I don’t care if people are yellow, brown, black, or white, conservative, liberal, red state, blue state, gay, straight, or anything else.

If they are Using fraudulent means to collect Medicaid, they should be taken off the rolls.

I'll take the painfully obvious and non-controversial for $1000 Alex.


Isn't there already a law about that?

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Originally Posted by Jacky S

I don’t care if people are yellow, brown, black, or white, conservative, liberal, red state, blue state, gay, straight, or anything else.

If they are Using fraudulent means to collect Medicaid, they should be taken off the program.

THERE IS NO WIDESPREAD FRAUD.

The Trump Administration and their GOP sycophants are lying to you. You just choose to believe them rather than the massive amounts of information that are out there proving that they are. Massive amounts. You almost can't avoid it.

Most of the people who will lose their coverage are not committing fraud of any kind.

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Originally Posted by adav8s28

Exactly! To get to 50 votes, they first tried to convert Sen Paul from Kentucky. When that didn't work, they cut special deals with Sen Murkowski. For example (SNAP) aka "Food Stamps" funding wise will work differently in her state, Alaska.

She was the key to the whole thing. The dems need a no vote from four republicans. They got three from Sen Collins of Maine, Sen Paul of Kentucky and The Senator from North Carolina who will retire. Sen Murkowski would have been the 4th but she sold out.

Yesterday she said she still had "problems" with the Bill and that she "hoped" the House "take further actions" to address them.

Really? She got what she wanted for HER constituents, and now openly says that she wants the House to do her work for her? What a sell-out asshole.

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[TechPapi]

Massie is saying he has enough support to kill the bill. As much as I dislike Massie, at least he's consistent and not a fucking MAGA cult member. And he gives zero fucks about trump and the MAGA fucktards.


The republicucks could use more like him.