Are things getting slow?

[Anthonylewis50]

Something we all might have to concede is that.... there's a fracturing of the hobby based on wealth. There's a greater concentration of wealth in the hands of few people with lots of money to spend. They might see 900 as nothing. The average hobbyist denies anyone is paying that rate and the average lady over estimates how many guys can pay that rate.

Then there are working joe and jane hobbyists who don't don't those high Uber high rates at all. If you are a billionaire, seeking and LC aren't worth the trouble. If you own a profitable Small business.... maybe they are

[Anthonylewis50]

Originally Posted by GuyEatingRice

It all depends where you are looking

Snappy comeback

[bashar]

Originally Posted by Anthonylewis50

Something we all might have to concede is that.... there's a fracturing of the hobby based on wealth.

There’s something for everyone at every price point, but not everyone is affected by the economy in the same way.

At the top, you have UHNWI’s who can easily spend 5-6 figures without thinking twice. For them, the current economic situation doesn’t really matter. They’re still flying private/FC and booking luxury experiences. But these clients aren’t browsing sites like Tryst, LC, or OH2.

Next, you have hobbyists earning in the low to mid six figures. This group is starting to feel the squeeze from rising real-world costs. As a result, they’re cutting back on their hobby budget, but still spending a fair amount.

Then there’s everyone else. A few years ago, someone in this group could afford to spend around $2-300 a month on the hobby. But that’s no longer as possible as it used to be. A car payment might have jumped by $200. Grocery bills have gone up by hundreds. For many, there’s simply no room left in the budget for the hobby.

Providers who target the top 1% are doing just fine. Those who focus on the middle-income crowd can still survive, but they’ll likely need to adjust their strategy. The ones struggling the most are those who served the lower end of the market. Many are raising prices in an attempt to make up for lost income, or offering specials to attract more clients. But in most cases it’s not enough.

[TalliaThomas]

Originally Posted by bashar

There’s something for everyone at every price point, but not everyone is affected by the economy in the same way.

At the top, you have UHNWI’s who can easily spend 5-6 figures without thinking twice. For them, the current economic situation doesn’t really matter. They’re still flying private/FC and booking luxury experiences. But these clients aren’t browsing sites like Tryst, LC, or OH2.

Next, you have hobbyists earning in the low to mid six figures. This group is starting to feel the squeeze from rising real-world costs. As a result, they’re cutting back on their hobby budget, but still spending a fair amount.

Then there’s everyone else. A few years ago, someone in this group could afford to spend around $2-300 a month on the hobby. But that’s no longer as possible as it used to be. A car payment might have jumped by $200. Grocery bills have gone up by hundreds. For many, there’s simply no room left in the budget for the hobby.

Providers who target the top 1% are doing just fine. Those who focus on the middle-income crowd can still survive, but they’ll likely need to adjust their strategy. The ones struggling the most are those who served the lower end of the market. Many are raising prices in an attempt to make up for lost income, or offering specials to attract more clients. But in most cases it’s not enough.

Not quite.


The highest end ladies-- tend not to struggle as long as they truly belong in that bucket.


The ladies at the low end of the scale also don't struggle. The moderate income guys you speak of seldom leave completely-- they just start seeing ladies at a lower price point.


Its the mid range that gets squeezed the hardest. The high end clientele don't feel the need to "downgrade" in price. The mid range guys can no longer afford the pool-- so they downgrade a bit.

[Ruth484]

Originally Posted by Anthonylewis50

Something we all might have to concede is that.... there's a fracturing of the hobby based on wealth. There's a greater concentration of wealth in the hands of few people with lots of money to spend. They might see 900 as nothing. The average hobbyist denies anyone is paying that rate and the average lady over estimates how many guys can pay that rate.

Then there are working joe and jane hobbyists who don't don't those high Uber high rates at all. If you are a billionaire, seeking and LC aren't worth the trouble. If you own a profitable Small business.... maybe they are

You can see this more with sugar baby dynamics. There are a lot of guys on seeking for example but only a few actually have the money to give those girls allowances. The women seem to not understand this and act like it's a regular dating site where they have unlimited options. Meanwhile the guys that are on there that CAN pay generous allowances are killing it.

[Wile E Coyote]

Originally Posted by Juandoe51

I’ve seen more veteran ladies on p4 available now and OH2 daily that u normally don’t see on there. I’ve also had a few ladies pm or text me that they are available and have a room.

At the same time a few of my favorites there price has gone up wtf? Supply and demand ladies we need to see those prices go down if u are getting slow!

Usually when a provider is consistently posting ads and making herself visible, it is a sign of her business being slow. Yet, many still want guys to pay top dollar for the same if not worse service they did years ago. A lot of that is pier pressure, I had a lady DM me and tell she had other providers tell her that her donation was too low.

I am glad I have a handful of ladies I see regularly that have not raised their rates on me, but I am sure they have for new clients. And from what I am told, those ladies are not seeing a slow down in their business, so they do not have to place ads, ask where a good place to eat/hang out is, ect.

[LustyBustyGina38FF]

Placing ad lets our regs and new gents know we are around and can see them
It's called Markting 101 !!..
With out ad's how would anyone know a provider is around and wanting to play?, doing it consistently say's nothing but she is Available to take appts.

[LustyBustyGina38FF]

double post

[LustyBustyGina38FF]

Originally Posted by TalliaThomas

Not quite.


The highest end ladies-- tend not to struggle as long as they truly belong in that bucket.


The ladies at the low end of the scale also don't struggle. The moderate income guys you speak of seldom leave completely-- they just start seeing ladies at a lower price point.


Its the mid range that gets squeezed the hardest. The high end clientele don't feel the need to "downgrade" in price. The mid range guys can no longer afford the pool-- so they downgrade a bit.

I have to agree !

[ahab11]

Before I know it i'll be forced to take RMD on my IRA's, I need to find a Provider who has a QCD recognized by the IRS and we will both be living large.

[LadyAnastasia]

I have had people ask me if it has been slow, absolutely not.

[ranger2016]

I won't say it's slower but one thing I have noticed is more of the younger women in the early 20's are not interested in BBFS. I've been encountering most that only offer CBJ with CFS. There's only 1 girl I've found on LC under 25 that offers BBFS and she retired already (although I still see her) in the last year.

[LustyBustyGina38FF]

Right I don't think it's slow at all..