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[ICU 812]

There has been no refutation of anything posted hereabout the core tenants of Islam.

[Schwarzer Ritter]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Prove your point; don't just bitch and moan.

Then explain what qualifies you to claim another poster has cancer.

Finally, how is "poster from Missouri" an insult? Maybe it is ... LOLLING!

Bottom line is that most posters in this thread believe that unless someone starts shit, there won't be shit. For law abiding people, live and let live is the American way. Period.

Just making more and more incendiary comments about Muslims (or any group that isn't yours) isn't going to result in no comment from "the leftist." (I think you meant leftistS, but spelling isn't my forte...as you've pointed out in other threads).

Take it up with spell check.

"posting racist hate screeds..." You're busted!

[ICU 812]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Prove your point; don't just bitch and moan.

Then explain what qualifies you to claim another poster has cancer.

Finally, how is "poster from Missouri" an insult? Maybe it is ... LOLLING!

Bottom line is that most posters in this thread believe that unless someone starts shit, there won't be shit. For law abiding people, live and let live is the American way. Period.

Just making more and more incendiary comments about Muslims (or any group that isn't yours) isn't going to result in no comment from "the leftist." (I think you meant leftistS, but spelling isn't my forte...as you've pointed out in other threads).

"Proving" a point? The posted link to the podcast clip with Gad Saad is one item. The link to, "Sword and Scimitar", by Raymond Ibrahim on Amazon is another.

Sorry if you don't have time to access either one, but "the truth is out there" is not an empty cliche, truth out there to be had.

There are 1400 years of history on this. Much of it is documented by the actors themselves and by contemporary Islamic historians. Ibrahim quotes Koranic scripture and its teaching as well.

What astounded me is that the rhetoric, teaching and scripture of the 7th Century so closely matched the justifications given by Islamic protesters today for the violence with wanton savagery practiced by Hamas, ISSIS and others today, all of it in the name of those they hold holey.

[Yssup Rider]

So what is the point of this thread? You hate Islam and American Muslims should not be afforded the same constitutional rights as you enjoy?

Pick all the nits you want fellas.

That’s what you seem to believe. Or worse. Maybe you want to start a new round of Crusades.

Again, there is no other point to this Islamphobic thread, or the podcasts you accept by rote.

Neither you nor the Schwarzer replied to bio’s question, but continued talking about sicknesses and cancers, etc.

Yes it’s hate speech. And no you didn’t provide anything other than three pages of grievances.

Don’t ask for whom the sky falls….

[VitaMan]

OP is now banned. No use to continue posting here.

[ICU 812]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

So what is the point of this thread? You hate Islam and American Muslims should not be afforded the same constitutional rights as you enjoy?

Pick all the nits you want fellas.

That’s what you seem to believe. Or worse. Maybe you want to start a new round of Crusades.

Again, there is no other point to this Islamphobic thread, or the podcasts you accept by rote.

Neither you nor the Schwarzer replied to bio’s question, but continued talking about sicknesses and cancers, etc.

Yes it’s hate speech. And no you didn’t provide anything other than three pages of grievances.

Don’t ask for whom the sky falls….

The interviewee in the podcast, Gad Saad, is a well respected academic scholar with credentials and reputation.. Joe Rogan is no fly-by-night either.

Hate Islam? My faith structure says that hating someone is wrong. I have worked with both Shmeits and Snny Moslems at different times, both here in the USA and in the Middle East; Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan and Houston. . .however, they hate each other.

More to the point, Islam abhores any person who does not recognize Mohamed and Allah,. If one rejects them, that person is marked for retribution. The same is true for a society in general.

I have posted links to two credible resources that go into this. The book in particular contains specific references from Islamic writers that document what I have written above and what others have written in this thread.

I strongly encourage anyone (everyone) to at least check out the video, it is a short clip of a longer podcast with Joe Rogan. The book, "Sword and Scimitar" deals with the entire history of Islam's conflict with "The West".

This conquest begins with the savage and violent conquest of Christian lands in the middle east before 700 AD. That conquest stopped in southern France on the one hand and at the gates of Vienna on the other. Much of the savegry, proudly described by contemporary witnesses.

That is not hate speech. Those folks were proudly bragging about it.

[ICU 812]

Originally Posted by biomed1

For the OP - Compare and Contrast your opening statement to the Branch Davidians.

It is my ill-informed understanding that the Branch Davidians were a cult controlled by David Koresh. He managed to manipulate his follower and caused them to allow him to do things we cannot discus on this forum.

The Branch Davidian cult was a brief flash in he pan. Islam has a 1400 year history.

Islam is not a cult. It is a major religion with a world wide following along with Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism and others.

[Jacky S]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

It is my ill-informed understanding that the Branch Davidians were a cult controlled by David Koresh. He managed to manipulate his follower and caused them to allow him to do things we cannot discus on this forum.

The Branch Davidian cult was a brief flash in he pan. Islam has a 1400 year history.

Islam is not a cult. It is a major religion with a world wide following along with Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism and others.

^^^^^^^^

[ICU 812]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

So what is the point of this thread? You hate Islam and American Muslims should not be afforded the same constitutional rights as you enjoy?

Well yes. All citizens and legal residents should have access to the rights and protections of The Constitution and the statute laws of American society.

However, Sheria "law" does not recognize the Constitution, the Bill of Rights or the authority of non-Moslem civil government. Bigamy, domestic violence, human traducing and general intolerance of non-Moslems, disdainfully called "infidels", are all part of a society defined by and subject to Sheria law. Other issues many on this forum would find to be odious we cannot openly discuss here without egregiously violating the community standards of ECCIE.

Anyone who is committed to the LGBTQ community should be alarmed by the prospect of living under Islamic law.

[farmstud60]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

Well yes. All citizens and legal residents should have access to the rights and protections of The Constitution and the statute laws of American society.

However, Sheria "law" does not recognize the Constitution, the Bill of Rights or the authority of non-Moslem civil government. Bigamy, domestic violence, human traducing and general intolerance of non-Moslems, disdainfully called "infidels", are all part of a society defined by and subject to Sheria law. Other issues many on this forum would find to be odious we cannot openly discuss here without egregiously violating the community standards of ECCIE.

Anyone who is committed to the LGBTQ community should be alarmed by the prospect of living under Islamic law.

Exactly, your posts tried to point out the very realistic problems with hos Sharia Law doesn't allow for the United States Constitution.

[Jacky S]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

Well yes. All citizens and legal residents should have access to the rights and protections of The Constitution and the statute laws of American society.

However, Sheria "law" does not recognize the Constitution, the Bill of Rights or the authority of non-Moslem civil government. Bigamy, domestic violence, human traducing and general intolerance of non-Moslems, disdainfully called "infidels", are all part of a society defined by and subject to Sheria law. Other issues many on this forum would find to be odious we cannot openly discuss here without egregiously violating the community standards of ECCIE.

Anyone who is committed to the LGBTQ community should be alarmed by the prospect of living under Islamic law.

Of course, they will deny that all “modern” Muslims do not practice the tenants of their Prophet. Those were set forth when Muhammad was out to conquer the world and spread his version of Religion, killing anybody that failed to repent.
Just as when the Israelites were going into the Promised Land. Just read the account of the Battle of Jericho. God ordered Joshua to kill every living thing in the City, leaving nothing alive. Pretty brutal.

No sane Jew or Christian or Muslim would think of doing that in today’s World.

Or would they?

[Lucas McCain]

Originally Posted by VitaMan

OP is now banned. No use to continue posting here.

I agree. The troll who started this thread is banned. And now it is just turning into bashing Muslims.

Just for full transparency, I have a close friend who is a devout Muslim, and he taught me a lot about the Muslim faith through both his early life experiences in Pakistan and the literature he recommended for me to read as well.

My opinion about this "sanctuary" does not come from prejudice. It comes from what I've learned over the years both through friendship and study. That's not where this thread is headed though.

[Yssup Rider]

Agree. Any opportunity to preach hate is swiftly snatched up here by the usual suspects.

[Jacky S]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Agree. Any opportunity to preach hate is swiftly snatched up here by the usual suspects.

You will have to define the term Preaching Hate.

“When you tell somebody something, the location where you happen to be standing in the World determines how stupid your remark is”.

(A slight modification to a saying by The Burt Teynolds Character in Smokey and the Bandit).

[ICU 812]

Well I guess that opinions can be construed as "hate speech" if unsupported.

However, there is the documentation from nearly a thousand and a half years, from 633 AD to the present, of odious behavior in the name of Islam out there. Documentation by eyewitnesses who are contemporary to the events they described. What makes these accounts irrefutably credible is that they were written by Moslems proudly bragging about the event at hand and detailing the nature of specific acts.

If the technologies of today were available to these chroniclers of the 7th Century and later, they would have disseminated videos of torture and base cruelty as deeply disturbing to view as were the shocking acts of ISSIS and Hamas in recent years. More than just the acts themselves, are the justifications for them quoted from the Koran and other sources of teaching respected in Isla.

Read the book cited below. It will change how world events, past and present are seen.


Sword and Scimitar[/I], by Raymond Ibrahim
https://www.amazon.com/Sword-Scimita.../dp/0306825554