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Old 03-21-2025, 07:44 PM   #31
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The mainstream mews outlets, legacy media and their personalities . . .along side the Progressive left and the Democratic Party have burned my trust to cinder.

From the often repeated "if you like your doctor . . ." to the "mostly peaceful" protests and on into all the Covid related misinformation, psudo-science and spurious data . . . and outright lies, I am automatically skeptics of about anything coming fom the left.

Most of the anti-Trump rhetoric from 2016 through 2020 was spurious. The Russia allegations, both impeachments and the Hunter Biden laptop scandal were later shown to be and acknowledged to be, simply not true.

The ability of then President Biden to be our nation
s cheif executive has been in serious doubt, but denied by all parties on the left, both in and out of government. But now insiders and thnose who were insider-adjacent are flipping on both former VP Harris and former President Biden to reveal what they know of the truth.

With all of that history and experience, why should I, or anyone believe ay of them over Elon Musk?
There are so many cans of worms to open in this collection of poor observations.
First, anyone that thinks that a corporate media source is going to issue anything other than a carefully constructed narrative in the benefit of that corporate media that is sourcing the production doesn't get it.

Second, the mainstream media is completely right as in off the charts nut job right. Only MSNBC is somewhere approaching center. It's not legitimate either. I don't care if all you report is truth if you don't report the whole truth, you are in violation of perjury in any court in the nation. Echo Chambers are terrible. They are anti-democratic and in Truth seditious. I guess they're not "as seditious" as say fox" if you want to do the levels of moral bankruptcy argument which is what we are reduced to at this point in time in America.

Your statements about the healthcare policy some example are nothing more than strong if you wanna approach the topic of healthcare. Simply institute a by definition #UniversalHealthcareProgram. Instead of the 453 billion we spend on Medicaid Medicare covering 140 million people, we could cover the entire country plus medical optical dental for 300 million. Completely have a free and unfettered market for the providers and facilities with rates immediately available for procedures Having the government responsible for absolutely nothing but insurance and completely ban all private health insurance but it exists for nothing but to create profit has nothing to do with anyone's health. All healthcare decisions and you can read into this what you wish but you know what I mean ALL health decisions should be left between the patient and the provider. No insurance, no government interference.
Neither part is in constituent has standing on this topic.

Your incorrect statements concerning every single point you brought up in the next paragraph is an example of what tribalism does.
Trump and much of the GOP are nothing more than Putin's fellation tools. A blatant established fact of the matter. Impeachment were correct the Senate is what did not fulfill their oath and lastly, for anyone to believe anything about the laptop thing of Hunter Biden is just well I don't have polite words and I'd kinda like to stay on the platform for more than a couple hours but let's just say it's a poor choice of position. Untethered to reality.

You are right about Biden ability government. You forgot to mention the same with Trump. I don't understand why any of us consent to this nonsense. Both parties do the same thing their partners. The only difference is where our tax dollars go. The GOP is in charge it goes to fellow criminal conspirators and when the Democrats franchise it goes to the corporate executive and high Stakeholder class. Either way, the taxpayer is out.
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Old 03-21-2025, 08:06 PM   #32
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I haven't heard a denial from anyone; Biden or who was calling the shots.
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Old 03-21-2025, 08:31 PM   #33
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I haven't heard a denial from anyone; Biden or who was calling the shots.
... Me either ... So those strawman arguments that
badmouth Trump and Musk while defending Joe Biden
surely look rather silly.

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Old 03-22-2025, 05:01 AM   #34
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Name calling and invective alone do not win a debate. Whether or not you agree with the positions taken by Charlie Kirk or Ben Shapiro, look at their style of argumentation. They are generall respectful of individuals and rely solely on solid information and logic when preening their side in the debate.

Generally speaking, now, I do not see much of that coming from the left, not on this board for the most part. Not when the topic has anything to do with President Trump.
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Old 03-22-2025, 05:05 AM   #35
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Check out this interview with Lilly LI for an insider's view of who ws in chrge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHXVeLVHWuY

And another interview with her . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHXVeLVHWuY

This related to the topic because it shows what the left does stand for, in my opinion.
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Old 03-22-2025, 06:57 AM   #36
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There are so many cans of worms to open in this collection of poor observations.
First, anyone that thinks that a corporate media source is going to issue anything other than a carefully constructed narrative in the benefit of that corporate media that is sourcing the production doesn't get it.

Second, the mainstream media is completely right as in off the charts nut job right. Only MSNBC is somewhere approaching center. It's not legitimate either. I don't care if all you report is truth if you don't report the whole truth, you are in violation of perjury in any court in the nation. Echo Chambers are terrible. They are anti-democratic and in Truth seditious. I guess they're not "as seditious" as say fox" if you want to do the levels of moral bankruptcy argument which is what we are reduced to at this point in time in America.

Your statements about the healthcare policy some example are nothing more than strong if you wanna approach the topic of healthcare. Simply institute a by definition #UniversalHealthcareProgram. Instead of the 453 billion we spend on Medicaid Medicare covering 140 million people, we could cover the entire country plus medical optical dental for 300 million. Completely have a free and unfettered market for the providers and facilities with rates immediately available for procedures Having the government responsible for absolutely nothing but insurance and completely ban all private health insurance but it exists for nothing but to create profit has nothing to do with anyone's health. All healthcare decisions and you can read into this what you wish but you know what I mean ALL health decisions should be left between the patient and the provider. No insurance, no government interference.
Neither part is in constituent has standing on this topic.

Your incorrect statements concerning every single point you brought up in the next paragraph is an example of what tribalism does.
Trump and much of the GOP are nothing more than Putin's fellation tools. A blatant established fact of the matter. Impeachment were correct the Senate is what did not fulfill their oath and lastly, for anyone to believe anything about the laptop thing of Hunter Biden is just well I don't have polite words and I'd kinda like to stay on the platform for more than a couple hours but let's just say it's a poor choice of position. Untethered to reality.

You are right about Biden ability government. You forgot to mention the same with Trump. I don't understand why any of us consent to this nonsense. Both parties do the same thing their partners. The only difference is where our tax dollars go. The GOP is in charge it goes to fellow criminal conspirators and when the Democrats franchise it goes to the corporate executive and high Stakeholder class. Either way, the taxpayer is out.
You could have foregone most your ill written diatribe and simply said…..”I hate President Trump”.
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Old 03-22-2025, 09:25 PM   #37
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